Nintendo Revolution

[dubstylee]

http://img.engadget.com/common/images/2476151050547027.JPG?0.7216835335255888

Great coverage of the E3 launch @ joystiq (http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000760043637/)

[crackerjacker]

http://img.engadget.com/common/images/2476151050547027.JPG?0.7216835335255888

Great coverage of the E3 launch @ joystiq (http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000760043637/)
http://engadget.com/


whose going to buy one?

[MPXX]

Just some shots of their approaching system released...

Nintendo's planning on using a full size disc (120mm) with DVD movie features, Gamecube backwards compatability, 512MB flash data-storage, Wi-Fi communication, Bluetooth, and wireless controller conectability all in a slimline case that's smaller than any other console they realesed before says Iwata (Nintendo representative)

More details are comming soon, Nintendo's not realeasing specific details nor and hints on the controller. They only said that the console is not about sheer processing power as it's concept will bypass the gap. They were quoting that the processing power would be in the range of 2-3 times more powerful than the Gamecube...

Although I'd have to say Revoulution so far this looks pleasing, and I hope they keep that slimline design or improve on it...

Current Pictures: http://media.cube.ign.com/articles/615/615030/imgs_1.html

[cjules13]

I've always been a Nintendo fan, I have the GameCube, but I have to see the specs first. If it can't play regular computer media over ethernet ports like XBOX2 and PS3, then I might pass on this one.

I've had every Nintendo system since NES....

[Potato]

http://zeropaid.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=28942

[Lord_of_the_Dense]

Can't believe how small it is. Nice to know it's backwards compatible.

[cjules13]

All the way back to NES too.... Built in emulators for NES, SNES, and N64.... that's pretty cool....!

[Potato]

btw, I want one. It can join my NES, SNES, N64 and Gamecube.

[cjules13]

So they'll be offering ROMs as paid downloads probably.... I wonder how much they want you to pay for 8-bit Contra...?

[MPXX]

well you'll have 512MB to store those ROMs, someone will probably make a hack to get foreign emulators on it...they always do...

[cjules13]

You mean foreign ROMs? ok, well maybe a foreign emulator becuase the built in ones will probably control the security of what ROMs you want to play... I dunno, Nintendo has always been really tight on their IP, this one might be tough to crack....

Cool idea anyway, I wonder if the duck hunt gun will still work...;)

[.:sp00ky:.]

it looks nice,much nicer than shoebox360 and just as nice looking as ps3 but im not a nintendo fan anymore too many mario games mario golf mario kart mario party6(7?)or 8? mario hentai dress up sim.....no wait that last one is just a fantasy........

[cjules13]

lol....

The Mario franchise rocks... even with Mario Party 5 and Mario Golf, they're all pretty good.... when you're younger or stoned...

[broadwayrock]

Revolution will offer gamers the opportunity to purchase and download every game that's appeared on the NES, SNES, N64

http://www.cube-europe.com/news.php?nid=7781

That and the online Super Smash Brothers & online Final Fantasy has made me very interested in getting one.

[Andrew110]

I know that none of the systems are out yet, but it looks like Sony has won again, even though it's not releasing first.

[Lord_of_the_Dense]

In 2004, Sony's older PlayStation 2 led the U.S. console wars with 43 percent of the market, according to Jupiter Research. The original Xbox was a distant No. 2 with 19 percent, followed by Nintendo's GameCube at 14 percent. The remainder included handheld game systems.

But by 2010, Xbox 360 would grab the lead with 38 percent of the market, followed by Sony with 32 percent and Nintendo with 22 percent, Jupiter forecasts.


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=562&e=2&u=/ap/video_game_expo

I hope Sony pulls it off.

[Wipeout]

To LORD, do I trust someone who thinks they can predict all the way to 2010? NO!

Now back to the topic. Nintendo president said that the nintendo revolution is small like 3 DVD case stacked together. That picture was just a prototype. Now, the nintendo revolution have backwards compatibility all the way to 20 years ago. Are you going to stick to the past generation? That is up to you to decide. Nintendo is still sticking to DVD when sony is going into blu-ray. Basically, they are stuck in the past. Nintendo still have not shown me anything that will revolutionalize gaming.

I also want to point out about the micro game boy. This portable can play any gameboy advance game. It is small enough to fit in your pocket. It is more lightweight. But unfortunately, it still can't beat the psp.

And I agree Sony is back to number 1. This time around, i hope the ps3 will at least sell at least ten times more than the ps2. I recommend everyone to watch one confirmed game trailer for the ps3 so that you get a chance to widen your eyes.

[MPXX]

Actually Nintendo has not settled on using DVD-rom as it's game medium...Nintendo is working with Panasonic (Matsushita) again with this console...and what I know is that Panasonic is a part of the Blu-ray Disc Association, So the Revolution may use the Blu-ray format as it's median to promote the format under Matsushita's domain..and why not that's why they're a part of the asociation anyway. The only mention of DVD was the possibility of playing DVD-video...I frankly don't care if it has that capability or not.

And I wouldn't say they're stuck in the past, it's just that Nintendo has a richer history than PlayStation by far...and if they do impliment the system properly, the Revolution will have hundreds of games already at launch at your controller without leaving your chair...now that's every true gamers dream...and that's not revolutionary to you?

[Wipeout]

What I want from nintendo is to change the way we play games. Change the gameplay. I watched the nintendo press conference and it dissapointed me that the nintendo president decided to keep the controllers a secret. I bet the revolutionary part are the controllers. Until they reveal the controllers, I can't say they are revolutionary.

[MPXX]

Well it's only day one of E3 conferences...Nintendo likes to keep secrets...

[wonderboy2005]

I think the 'console wars' for the upcoming generation will be very interesting. All three players have key strongpoints - Nintendo's classic back-library of games, Microsoft's PC intercompatability, and Sony's insane power and 2 generation backwards compatability. People claim that the PS3 has already won, but examples can be sited to help or counter any of the three consoles' positions. I am most interested to see how well the Xbox 360 does with its comparatively early release. In the last generation, sega did this with the dreamcast and failed to be a success. The PS3 I think is virtually guaranteed to succeed, given its strong fanbase and incredible power. Nintendo, on the otherhand, I am a little concerned with. It is comparatively very underpowered. Its saving grace, however, may be its extensive backwards compatability. I guess only time will tell how the situation pans out, but if I were to make any predictions, I'd say that nintendo will be the looser of the trio. Their fanbase is diminishing, and the lackluster specs of the revolution may ultimately lead to taking the backseat to the Xbox and playstation.

[evilmegaman]

I wish I wish I wish I knew how much this was and when it's coming out. I want to get the cheapest one or the first one to come out. I think this will be the cheapest. Though I hope it's not the worst system. I can't imagine the graphics being better than computers nowadays like the other 2... Well, one can only hope it has that.

[Excrement_Cranium]

The thing that will sell nintendo, sorry, is fanboys. I am one though. The talk of it being backwards compatable, possibly back to the NES... that is what does it. I have all three of the current consoles. The graphics on the cube are nice, but the harddrive causes my xbox to get played more. My ps2 is mainly a dvd player in my bedroom.

[the_flatland]

If I have learned anything from Sony's releases, I have noticed *** things. First, they are always overpriced (to me, anyways) and I want a gaming system - I'm not worried about it playing my movies or mp3 disks or whatever. Second, the initial release of each system is strewn with bugs, breakdowns, etc. Let's not forget the issues with both the PSX and PS2 within the first three months of each - approx 65% of all systems died. In the PSX, the laser or motor was the main issue, and this was corrected with the second release of the system. In the PS2, DVD Playback somehow seemed to "corrupt" the system, so that it would no longer play games. The PSP is already having complaints about screen quality and exessive pixelation. Sony's systems do not seem to undergo the testing that Nintendo puts into their products.

I have always been a Nintendo fan since the days of the NES, and have EVERY system they have released (American anyways). And this does include the little known Virtual Boy. Between my brother and I, we have all variations on the GameBoy, including the DS. I am however disgruntled with the DS. Dual Screen is nice, but I think Nintendo is overdoing the touch-screen thing. Just so I don't seem to biased, I also have Sega Masters, Sega Genesis, Sega Saturn, Sony PSX, Atari Jaguar, Atari 2600 (My bro has the Sega Dreamcast too).

One good thing about the Sony Systems: the amount and variety in available titles, especially if you are a RPG fan.

[SanDiegoKid]

I'll get the new Nintendo system. Like the cube before it, there will be some exclusive titles I'll want. They will not include Mario. Well, maybe Mario Kart... but only if I can play it online with Potato.

[Potato]

I'll get the new Nintendo system. Like the cube before it, there will be some exclusive titles I'll want. They will not include Mario. Well, maybe Mario Kart... but only if I can play it online with Potato.
I'll kick your ass at Mario Kart.

[cjules13]

Can I take the challenge too? Cleared all tracks on DoubleDash, I think I'm ready for international competition...:)

I hear you kleenr on the exclusive titles. The Metroid and Resident Evil franchise for GC almost make it worth picking it up just for that.

I figure this Nintendo system should be fairly cheaper than the other two, and the NES and SNES games I'll get to play has got me sold on this as well.... It just might not be my only system. Now to choose between XBOX and PS3...:icon_salu

[.:sp00ky:.]

They ruined metroid imo i wanted a 3rdperson game i loved the old ones and the ones on gba rock too but the gc fps one...well il just ignore the fact that they ever happend..ooh and resident evil is back on ps2.

[cjules13]

So did you try the fps Metroid? I thought it was extremely well done. Part 2 too!

[.:sp00ky:.]

yeah i tryed it i just couldnt get use to it,but i also liked the 2d mario worlds for the snes more than the 3d ones mario64 and the gc one.
iv lost alot of respect for nintendo i grew up with the snes but latly they have just rehashed their old characters over and over again,so far this e3 they have show yet another gameboy advance like they expect people who baught a gba who then baught a gba sp who then got a ds to now go and buy another gba?!? just cos its smaller its unlikey. not much has been said about the new console apart from it plays old games...well sorry but iv got emulators to do that and their free. and then today they anounce........mario baseball...........yey.... -__- =3

[Afn]

I think the 'console wars' for the upcoming generation will be very interesting. All three players have key strongpoints - Nintendo's classic back-library of games, Microsoft's PC intercompatability, and Sony's insane power and 2 generation backwards compatability. People claim that the PS3 has already won, but examples can be sited to help or counter any of the three consoles' positions. I am most interested to see how well the Xbox 360 does with its comparatively early release. In the last generation, sega did this with the dreamcast and failed to be a success. The PS3 I think is virtually guaranteed to succeed, given its strong fanbase and incredible power. Nintendo, on the otherhand, I am a little concerned with. It is comparatively very underpowered. Its saving grace, however, may be its extensive backwards compatability. I guess only time will tell how the situation pans out, but if I were to make any predictions, I'd say that nintendo will be the looser of the trio. Their fanbase is diminishing, and the lackluster specs of the revolution may ultimately lead to taking the backseat to the Xbox and playstation.

Years ago Sega CEO said it is easier to sell bits over wires than plastic carts or shiny discs. The problem with selling bits over physical media is less profit. A universal game library accessable for $15 dollars a month, unlimited game play, unlimited titles, might be what the industry needs. From the data on gameplay, they can then develop premium titles on the games people really play.

Hackers in the emu scene have been doing this for years. The problem is, once you have played 10,000 games, you get tired of it.

Great games sell hardware. I see no great games, new concepts that make it worth me buy any of the existing or next generation consoles. All hype and little improved gameplay.

Final Fantasy 7 was an experience you just HAD to buy. I do not see this with any of the console titles today.

[Wipeout]

Of course you don't see any good games right now for the next generation consoles because it is too early to reveal enough details. You just have to wait a while until next year ( wish I had a time machine ) to find out about the games that will give you an experience never before seen. I watched the sony press conference and I think one game will give you a groundbreaking experience. That game is call of duty 2. This game, not only does it have superb graphics, but it also have groundbreaking audio. You swing you head around 180 degrees just because you heard something coming behind you. ( If you have 5.1 multichannel surround sound ) Oh well, time will tell you which game will give you a different gameplay.

Oh ya, I'm not just talking about the graphics that will change the gameplay. See, the physics like the debris falling from an explosion of a building will take your breath away. I've been observing games and I can say that I'm seeing more and better explosions in games. The first game I played was starcraft and the tank blew off like shit. Now if you play empire earth 2, you can see way way way better explosion of a tank. See, that can change gameplay so much by adding more realism.

For action games, the increased artificial intelligence makes enemies look more natural. Terrorists can now take cover, flank the hell out of you or maneuver around. Years ago, they couldn't do that. Now that is just what improved artificial intelligence can do. I still don't know what the increased artificial intelligence will further bring to games.

And with better facial animations ( Yes!, better than half life 2) , you could actually feel the emotions of characters. Just take a look at the video of fight night club and you'll see what I mean.

Shit with nintendo for not revealing the controllers. AFN, just wait until they reveal the controllers and you might see how they will change the way we play games.

Ps3 is deserved to be bought by any gamer or non-gamer from any age group. The experience cannot be totally described in words.

[.:sp00ky:.]

wow they let 10year olds work for sony these day? i mean im guessing you work for them coming out with shit like "The experience cannot be totally described in words." and your "my penis is bigger than your penis" sig.

[SanDiegoKid]

I'll kick your ass at Mario Kart.

The glove has been thrown down!


You just wait until sometime in '06 or whenever a new Mario Kart with online play is released... have I got a horned shell waitin' for your ass.

[broadwayrock]

I'll kick both your arses on Mario Kart.

I play very dirty and have a knack for avoiding shells.

[Afn]

I think one game will give you a groundbreaking experience. That game is call of duty 2. This game, not only does it have superb graphics, but it also have groundbreaking audio. You swing you head around 180 degrees just because you heard something coming behind you. ( If you have 5.1 multichannel surround sound ) Oh well, time will tell you which game will give you a different gameplay.

Oh ya, I'm not just talking about the graphics that will change the gameplay. See, the physics like the debris falling from an explosion of a building will take your breath away. I've been observing games and I can say that I'm seeing more and better explosions in games. The first game I played was starcraft and the tank blew off like shit. Now if you play empire earth 2, you can see way way way better explosion of a tank. See, that can change gameplay so much by adding more realism.

For action games, the increased artificial intelligence makes enemies look more natural. Terrorists can now take cover, flank the hell out of you or maneuver around. Years ago, they couldn't do that. Now that is just what improved artificial intelligence can do. I still don't know what the increased artificial intelligence will further bring to games.

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in RTCW the fighting was pretty intense. If I ever find myself in WW2 combat, fighting the germans, I will know what to do.

For me, once you play one FPS, that is enough. Good titles are fun. We are talking about gameplay so addicting, you have to buy the game. Final fantasy or other RPG's where you really are in an alternative universe.

Storylines that are compelling. Pac-man had a compelling storyline. Most titles today are the same old shoot the shit metaphor. The games today are not fun anymore. Overloaded with expensive product and most of it junk.





Ps3 is deserved to be bought by any gamer or non-gamer from any age group. The experience cannot be totally described in words.

Are you a PR person? Your comments are more than fan-boy, are you paid?

[cjules13]

Ps3 is deserved to be bought by any gamer or non-gamer from any age group. The experience cannot be totally described in words.

What exactly have you experienced?

Seriously, tell us all about your EXPERIENCE with PS3.




(This outta be good:icon_comp )

[broadwayrock]

I agree with you Afn

I find most games today are just the same. Especially FPS games.

Though the same could be said about music and movies:

most of the great albums/movies were made in the 60s/70s. Even though advances in technology have opened up oportunity to make great games, few have ever matched up to standard of the good old days. Thats not to say there arnt any good games being released these days.

For so many of the younger gamers its the graphics that are most important. Companies could sell the same game again and again but with better graphics each time and they would buy it up.

the braindead cgi blockbuster sequels will sell the most for movies & games today.

[Afn]

I agree with you Afn

Though the same could be said about music and movies:

most of the great albums/movies were made in the 60s/70s. Even though advances in technology have opened up oportunity to make great games, few have ever matched up to standard of the good old days. Thats not to say there arnt any good games being released these days.



film production in the 1960's and '70s was before digital, video in the 1970's was basic, low quality, but promising, no internet and no corporate rental chains. Post hollywood studio system.

Today we have access to everything recorded in the last 100 years with millions of hours of content online thanks to the web.

The best work of any generation or decade will always find functionality and an audience years later. The problem is, you do not know what art will hold up to the test of time, and what art looks like shit 5 years later. Both productions took time and money to realize.

Over time, only a few, a handful of movies will be remembered from a decade. Millions of hours will be compressed. If technology stops aging in the next 30 years we will be able to watch millions and millions of hours of it.

Naw. Just the best :)

[Wipeout]

No, First person shooters will be non-linear. An example would be call of duty 2. Weather changes and day and night cycle would be S.T.A.L.K.E.R.S. oblivion lost.

[.:sp00ky:.]

omg you have played that too? your so awsome Wipeout you have all these awsome sexual experiences with theses games and consoles that arnt even out yet, you so L33T,way too L33T forthis forum.

[cjules13]

No, First person shooters will be non-linear. An example would be call of duty 2.

Avoiding the question are you? :icon_tong

[Wipeout]

I've read interview, but have not played them.

The experience cannot be totally described in words.

Spooky, stop going to those nasty sites.

[.:sp00ky:.]

Originally Posted by Wipeout
The experience cannot be totally described in words.

how do you know that then if all YOUhave experienced is words.

[Wipeout]

Because someone who have experienced with the ps3 said that in words.

[.:sp00ky:.]

then learn to use quotation marks arsehole insted of pretending to know everything.

[Wipeout]

k k k, I'll use it next time.

" the micro game boy advance is small as a mini ipod. Screen Text is harder to read due to the reduced screen size. "

[moneoa]

it looks nice,much nicer than shoebox360 and just as nice looking as ps3 but im not a nintendo fan anymore too many mario games mario golf mario kart mario party6(7?)or 8? mario hentai dress up sim.....no wait that last one is just a fantasy........
That Gif is hillarious man...I have to use it for a bit :icon_salu

Mario Pimping :icon_rr:

[shawners]

Nintendo is a kids console now.. Too many japanese animated games and kiddie crap. I want a beast of a machine and probably buy both.. XBOX 360 and PS3. But it probably depends on which games comes at the launch. Ill end up waiting at least 6months to a year to make a purchase. I hate to buy it and it have bugs or bad dvd rom drive.

[.:sp00ky:.]

glad you like it moneoa :p

and yeah i agree with you shawners i won't buying any of the next computers at launch as their always way other priced because they know fanboys will bend over backwards for them.
Its also hard to justify to loved ones spending a crapload of money on somthing that creates "super realistic looking trees" >_<

[Wipeout]

I'm going to buy it at launch. I can't live without it. Honestly. I'm going to kiss my ps3. Wait.......maybe I should pre-order it.

[black_magiic]

I say screw it, I am just going to probably save up a shitload of cash and buy them all :)

[moneoa]

I feel as others have said on this thread, Nintendo is hurting themselves once again by their desire to keep it real and just be the same thig they always have been, a premier producer of fun games.
Honourable to be sure but the market for games and the demographic have changed quite a bit since they were on top.

I think like Sega they will eventually smart up and take a bow out of hardware and
reap good money developing their good franchises for other platforms too.

Silly you said? No more silly than the thought of Sonic on a nintendo machine sounded a few years ago.

I was a nintendo kid and stayed one until the PS1 came out.
While the hardware is weak and might be it's undoing the promise of their whole library of games being available for play that excite me.

Even if nintendo can't pull back in front I think I would buy this machine if only for the ability to play all those great games I played when I was a kid.

[wonderboy2005]

I feel as others have said on this thread, Nintendo is hurting themselves once again by their desire to keep it real and just be the same thig they always have been, a premier producer of fun games.
Honourable to be sure but the market for games and the demographic have changed quite a bit since they were on top.

I think like Sega they will eventually smart up and take a bow out of hardware and
reap good money developing their good franchises for other platforms too.

Silly you said? No more silly than the thought of Sonic on a nintendo machine sounded a few years ago.

I was a nintendo kid and stayed one until the PS1 came out.
While the hardware is weak and might be it's undoing the promise of their whole library of games being available for play that excite me.

Even if nintendo can't pull back in front I think I would buy this machine if only for the ability to play all those great games I played when I was a kid.

If its the old games you want, you can get virtually any older system emulated on your PC/mac/PS2/Xbox if you know where to look.

[shawners]

Xbox is known about diversity at the E3. They made it where you can sale your stuff to others, maps, game levels, shirts and stuff.. Yet it looks like maybe both of the systems may have rendered the games or slow it down or make the video quality look to spectacular. . I hope there is a mod chip for it within the year it comes out.. I love downloading xbox games and playing them before some of the release dates. As well as weeding out the stupid games that may look good from the back of the cover.

[Wipeout]

Your pc hardware better be good if you plan to play them on your pc. I also don't know any places where they sell mod chips.

[MPXX]

I'm going to buy it at launch. I can't live without it. Honestly. I'm going to kiss my ps3 goodbye. Wait.......maybe I should pre-order it.

So you're going to buy a Revolution Wipeout...Cool!!!!

[Wipeout]

Can't you at least quote it right?

I'm going to buy it at launch. I can't live without it. Honestly. I'm going to kiss my ps3. Wait.......maybe I should pre-order it.

BTW, nice avatar spooky.

[MPXX]

so you are going to buy a Nintendo Rev right... That's what this thread is about....

[Wipeout]

No, nintendo is for 12 years and below age group.

[MPXX]

No, nintendo is for 12 years and below age group.

Ya so why aren't you getting one then...?
You seem to be interested in it posting in this thread eh...
You aren't just here to bash it are you??? hmmm?
Make a bashing thread if you want to, but not here...

[Wipeout]

I hate bashing nintendo. There's already enough gamers out there bashing it. The console I want to bash is xbox360. But I think I bashed it enough.

[serrebi101]

anyway, who wants a smaller GBA anyway? Have you guys seen an SP? It fucking folds up into the thickness of a deck of cards, why do you need any smaller then that in a gaming machine? I want to buy the revolution for the back catalog[hey! maybe they'll release games that were never commercialy released, starfox2, killer instinct 2, etc]


but the gba micro seems to be a money grab, nothing else. Unless nintendo stops trying to make a quick buck, and focuses on coming up and using great new ideas, this will ultimately fail IMO.

[Lord_of_the_Dense]

No, nintendo is for 12 years and below age group.

Ahem.

Resident Evil on Gamecube is unequalled in graphics. Not your typical 12 year-old game there. It was the whole reason I picked up a GC.

Mario Kart Double Dash - Awesome fun with friends and a little alcohol.

I wouldn't rule GC out, but I wouldn't place it on top either.

As far as Xbox 360. It can do a 360 in my trash can. :icon_tong

[Wipeout]

Resident Evil 4 is the only game rated M for gamecube. I still can't find a M rated game for revolution. Actually I'm having a hard time finding any game for the revolution. You know what? I think there won't be any games for this console. All it has is backwards compatible.

[Lord_of_the_Dense]

Resident Evil 4 is the only game rated M for gamecube. I still can't find a M rated game for revolution. Actually I'm having a hard time finding any game for the revolution. You know what? I think there won't be any games for this console. All it has is backwards compatible.

/me walks knowingly over to the two GC RE titles that I own, Resident Evil and Resident Evil Ø. Looks at the rating on both and returns to the computer to compile this message. They are both rated "M" for Mature. As they should be.

I won't even touch the idea of a gameless new console.

[Wipeout]

Umm......See, I'm a gamer but I don't pay attention to the stupid gamecube. I wasn't saying it's gameless. But 20 years of old games seems like gameless anyway. There was an article saying nintendo will reveal its secrets at the end of the year. Let me find the article first.......

Ok, here it is:
http://gamespot.com/news/2005/05/20/news_6126195.html

I forgot to mention SC: chaos theory is also m rated but I can play on my ps2 anyways. And other M rated games are tom clancy's series, mortal kombat series, bloodrayne ( I should also mention the movie ), Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem, Def Jam: Fight for NY, Hitman 2: Silent Assassin, Prince of Persia: Warrior Within , and Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes. The other M rated games are shit and I don't want to mention them. Are you saying there is enough "quality" M rated games to convince an adult to buy a gamecube?

[ccc1005]

I hate bashing nintendo. There's already enough gamers out there bashing it. The console I want to bash is xbox360. But I think I bashed it enough.

Guess he must feel the PS3 is threatened by the 360, interesting...

[Wipeout]

I don't feel that way. I feel 360 is threatened by ps3. I just feel it is the only competitor.

[wingnut2600]

Umm......See, I'm a gamer but I don't pay attention to the stupid gamecube. I wasn't saying it's gameless. But 20 years of old games seems like gameless anyway. There was an article saying nintendo will reveal its secrets at the end of the year. Let me find the article first.......

Ok, here it is:
http://gamespot.com/news/2005/05/20/news_6126195.html chrome://targetalert/content/skin/new.png (http://gamespot.com/news/2005/05/20/news_6126195.html)

I forgot to mention SC: chaos theory is also m rated but I can play on my ps2 anyways. And other M rated games are tom clancy's series, mortal kombat series, bloodrayne ( I should also mention the movie ), Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem, Def Jam: Fight for NY, Hitman 2: Silent Assassin, Prince of Persia: Warrior Within , and Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes. The other M rated games are shit and I don't want to mention them. Are you saying there is enough "quality" M rated games to convince an adult to buy a gamecube?

So... only an "M" rated game is adult? That is foolishness. So... Katamari Damacy only relates to 3 year olds because it is rated "E?" Man... your argument is so full of holes it would just be mean to point them out to you.

An adult game just has to be enjoyable for adults. "M" rated games are often just made for content that is made especially to entice teens to play them anyways. I would rather play a game that holds my attention that is "E" rated, than play something with gratuitous violence, nudity and boring gameplay. I could care less about violence or nudity in a game... I have the damned internet and porn stores to help me with these if I so desire.

"M" games being adult is bullshit. Wooo... blood... fucking look at international journalism if you want to see violence. That shit is obscene. Games are fun... if some sexual content and violence adds to a story... more power to them and people will appreciate the maturity... but more often than not it is just 8-year old humor and immature bloodlust that leads to this rating.

[Wipeout]

I appreciate your opinion. I do agree " some " adults prefer kids games. I was just saying that M rated should only be for adults.

EDIT for ccc1005: I know that, it's just that I was so sleepy that I posted that by accident. I'm going to bed. Later.

[ccc1005]

Ps2 have more quality games. Xbox? Just that halo game. The console that sells more always wins.

Have you even hear of: Amped, Project Gotham Racing, Forza Motorsports, all the Tom Clancy games, Crimson Skies, the list keeps going. Xbox is not only Halo, although it sure is a damn good game :icon_thum

For some crazy video game fan im surprised you could even say the xbox on has halo...

[Jim Morrison]

I think that Nintendo has a great idea of letting people download any game from the past, and that's one of the reasons i'll be purchasing one. Some of the best games ever made were made back in the day. I really hope that were gonna be able to play some of the new games online too. Mario Kart would be the shit online.

[.:sp00ky:.]

I guess you should'nt play any of the ff games then they all have young age ratings,and also seems as you have the mental age of a 10 yearold you probley should'nt play games with mature age ratings im guessing your one of those kids whos gonna go on a killing rampage and say "but the man in gta told me to!"

[Wipeout]

The way I see it, I like all types of quality games except nintendo's characters. They act too childish. But you have to know that most of nintendo is for the casual gamers. Most of those games are too silly and funny for the hardcore. But then spooky is very silly so he won't have a problem playing those games. :icon_pira

[broadwayrock]

Is it me or are all gamers under the age of 14 the only ones who worry whether a game is 'kiddy' or not.

Gamers who are 18+ just want to play a great game and dont worry about any peer dissaproval.

This kid Wankout seems not to care whether a game is good but whether it makes him look cool and 'mature'. He reminds of the 12 year olds who swear and smoke to try to look 'mature', while in reality are anything but.

[moneoa]

Is it me or are all gamers under the age of 14 the only ones who worry whether a game is 'kiddy' or not.

Gamers who are 18+ just want to play a great game and dont worry about any peer dissaproval.

This kid Wankout seems not to care whether a game is good but whether it makes him look cool and 'mature'. He reminds of the 12 year olds who swear and smoke to try to look 'mature', while in reality are anything but.
hmmm not a bad analogy

[Wipeout]

http://forums.gamespot.com/gamespot/show_messages.php?board=314159273&topic=21137263&message=227243106#M227243106

Sure, adults need reality checks too and sometimes acting like a little kid by playing kid games is just what they need. Plus it's always good to keep your inner child young.

Thank You very much broadwayrock. You corrected my mistake. I made a thread on that site to read about gamers opinions on this topic.

[.:sp00ky:.]

i agree with broadwayrock.

and if been a hardcore gamer means your a imature little brat with no real life at all..then im so happy you don't think i am one.

"Sure, adults need reality checks too and sometimes acting like a little kid by playing kid games is just what they need. Plus it's always good to keep your inner child young."

hmm i take it when you play games you fuse with your computer making it reality.

[cjules13]

I'm 29 years old and I swear I have as much fun playing Halo or Mario Kart Double Dash...

[boogiedan]

its got me going bak in time this story
more than 10yrs ago wid mario, zelda etc
mabye nintendo can really cum good this tim
1 thing's for sure
they make great, colorful, enjoyable games!!

[Lord_of_the_Dense]

I guess you should'nt play any of the ff games then they all have young age ratings,and also seems as you have the mental age of a 10 yearold you probley should'nt play games with mature age ratings im guessing your one of those kids whos gonna go on a killing rampage and say "but the man in gta told me to!"

I remember when I saw "Shit" in the early-story dialogue of FF7. It was prety impressive IMO for that game.

[Psilaxs]

I love Mario games, Mario cart, Mario tennis etc, and specifically bought a game cube for the fun, light hearted party games which are exclusive on the system. A game could be rated "C" for Childish for all I care.

I agree with the sentiments of the older game players on the board, ratings mean absolutely nothing to me, I used to care when I was a child, only wanting to see R movies for the wrong reasons "BOOBS!!" (I was playing games long before any of this rating hoopla occurred, so I use movies as an example) though as I grew up an matured I realized that more often than not, the redeeming qualities of entertainment regardless of their medium is the quality of the content, how fun and interesting it is, and not out and out shock factor.

Before I come off sounding as a Victorian prude I do like my violent video games, and shock factor if it is truly something that hasn't been seen before in a game - face it, everything has been done in movies now - I play what is fun and what I like. I love not having to worry about participating in the status quo for youngsters (though I never really did)

[Wipeout]

Bad news for all nintendo fans. Nintendo Revolution won't be released until late 2006-2007. Here is the link:
http://www.mcvuk.com/newsitem.php?id=247

It will explain a hell lot of stuff why nintendo didn't reveal that much details for Nin Rev at e3.

EDIT: That will also explains why there isn't any games for that console yet.

[MPXX]

hmm...ya but it's PAL...and it's on a Euro site...Europe always seems to be the last to get new consoles. Although it could be that the success of the GC there is good enough that Nin can hold off longer...

They said late next year at most...dates change...when the system comes out it comes out; it's really when the games are fully finished and operational, is when the console is actually ready...


EDIT:
That will also explains why there isn't any games for that console yet.
That's why there is no next-gen console out yet...none of them have fully operational games ATM

[timfgb]

W e need to see this Nintendo controller to see if Revolution will be a success. If it is revolutionary then Revolution will do well. I have been a convert to the DS after I played one after being very very disappointed with my flimsy PSP. The dual screen is something new. It really kept my attention and I can see how we could get new games played in a different way coming.
The dual screen is not even that revolutionary but at least it is not just playing your normal PS2 type games on a smaller screen and with reduced controls...which is what playing the PSP is.
Although I am a PS2 fan I am willing to be converted by Nintendo if that controller is really something new. I am underwhelmed by the prospect of a PS3 which is just more horse power. Same type of games with better graphics....yawn!! Please Nintendo, do something revolutionary and spark up this dull (and getting duller) gaming arena.
Oh, and by the way..Nintendo Revolution, PS3 or Xbox 360 becoming entertainment hubs in our homes? Give us a break! No way! If any of us are fooled by this we should be shot! Consoles are for gaming and nothing else.

[Siskabush]

Nintendo could have a chance here. With complete backward compatibility, and if they release some hit games for the older gamer demographic, they can take back some of the market through that and nostalgia (My nintendo is crapping out, and I wouldnt mind playing Mario 1 without it stalling).

It might stand a chance considering how far back the games go. Thats one major advantage Nintendo has over Sony and Microsoft.

[Christoph]

I will buy one!Nintendo RULZ ,-)

[Excrement_Cranium]

Hmmmmmmmmmm.

I know you're lurking around, waiting for a moment to strike and ruin all of our lives again. After digging through this thread, I am reminded WHY you are so annoying. Wipeout, you ARE NOT a gamer. You're a little sony fanboy. I have all of the current systems, and all of the 32bit era systems. I am a gamer. I am a gamer because I dont' give a crap about ESRB ratings, system specs, development studio, whatever. It's about the GAMES. PERIOD.

I HATE YOU.

[Lord_of_the_Dense]

Oh, and by the way..Nintendo Revolution, PS3 or Xbox 360 becoming entertainment hubs in our homes? Give us a break! No way! If any of us are fooled by this we should be shot! Consoles are for gaming and nothing else.

Then it seems that the DVD-movie playback is a wasted feature on two, if not all, of the consoles. Some people don't wish to have more than one console cluttering up their entertainment system.

[Wipeout]

Iwata: Revolution downloads not free

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/06/07/news_6127066.html

Revolution to play back at least 221 classic titles?

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/06/07/news_6127047.html

In the past, I thought the revolution won't bring new games but I was wrong so take a look at here for some of the games for it:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/06/07/news_6127045.html

IMPORTANT: "Iwata also said all games published by Nintendo will cost no charge to play online".

[Lord_of_the_Dense]

I kinda figured the back catalogue would not be free. I was just waiting for the news to hit the fanboys.

[Excrement_Cranium]

I wouldn't expect it to be free. I just wonder what model they will use. There is a program called console classix which lets you play atari 2600, NES, SNES, and genisis titles. The 16 bit titles are only available with a $10 yearly subscription. I know it seems silly when you can find emu's and rom's for free, but the games are hosted online, so you only need use the space on your comp for the client. If Nintendo uses something similar to this, I'd buy in, just to play classic rpg's on my tv again.

Edit: I probably won't be buying ANY of the next step systems, as I'll be cramming my library for the current systems as the prices fall. When the next gens fall below $200, I'll start in on them.

[timfgb]

Then it seems that the DVD-movie playback is a wasted feature on two, if not all, of the consoles. Some people don't wish to have more than one console cluttering up their entertainment system.

When Sony came out with the DVD capabilty in PS2 it was a good marketing ploy. But now everyone has dvd. They are as cheap as chips.
All the music, film, online featureson the new consoles are fine but the entertainment hub will be the pc.
Future additions to entertainment hubs will come out monthly on pc. Not evry 3years as they do on consoles.

What I thought would have been revolutionary would have been a console that fits in one of the drive slots of a pc entertainment hub. No clutter. Play on pc terminals / tv around the house. Put game disc in local pc which goes back to hub and verifies with in-built console which then plays game over high speed connection.

Anyway, just an idea.

[wonderboy2005]

What I thought would have been revolutionary would have been a console that fits in one of the drive slots of a pc entertainment hub. No clutter. Play on pc terminals / tv around the house. Put game disc in local pc which goes back to hub and verifies with in-built console which then plays game over high speed connection.

Anyway, just an idea.The idea isn't half bad, but it would never happen for several reasons.

1) piracy issues. By using a PC to host the console, the potential for hacking the device becomes much greater. The end user, if they so desire, has full control over what goes in and out of the PC, allowing them to trick the terminals to do pretty much anything.

2) computer dependant. Using a PC as a host brings up several technical issues. First of all, therer are many different PCs. Not everyone has the same operating system or hardware. That means that several versions of the needed software would need to be written. Also, depending on how much the PC itself is utilized in the setup, system resource utilization may become a problem. Finally, what happens if the user doesn't want to have their PC on? or even more importantly, what if the user doesn't have a suitable PC to begin with?

3) data transfer issues. If you plan on making a device that simply recieves the video signal of the console's output, then there is no need really for the reciever in the first place. a more simplistic option would to just output directly to the display. Alternatively, if the desired product is a device that recieves a streamed version of the game via ethernet or some other data transfer mechanism, there is really no need for the PC. simply adding a disk drive/HDD or both to the terminal would make it a full console.

[Soundedmedal]

I wouldn't expect it to be free. I just wonder what model they will use. There is a program called console classix which lets you play atari 2600, NES, SNES, and genisis titles. The 16 bit titles are only available with a $10 yearly subscription. I know it seems silly when you can find emu's and rom's for free, but the games are hosted online, so you only need use the space on your comp for the client.

I help run Console Classix and we offer limited access to our NES and Atari 2600 library for free. The fee for full access to 2600, NES, SNES, GB/GBC, and Sega Genesis is 5$ a month. You can also pay 50$ for a yearly subscription. The emu' and roms you can find for free are illegal, we are not. We've taken painstaking steps to insure legality. So, the five dollars isn't that silly, is it?

[WE_DELIVER]

what emulator(s) do you guys run?

[Soundedmedal]

We had to use open source emulators, or write our own from scratch so we use Z26 for Atari 2600, Nester for NES, ZSNES for SNES, GNUBoy for Gameboy/Color, and GENS for Genesis.

[black_magiic]

Console classix is pretty cool. I used the free service. If I had more money I would go for the paid subscription if I had more money and a way to pay for it. Still a great site though.

[Soundedmedal]

Always glad to hear from a satisfied customer! :icon_tong

[BloodStraw]

lol taking paid for roms... thats not cool!