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Wipeout
May 16th, 2005, 05:52 PM
To all ps3 fans:
Our lovely ps3 has arrived with all specs and a confirmed picture. Your wishes have come true. Your dreams have come true. You are finally brought into the next generation of gaming. CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR PS3!!!

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/614/614619p1.html

It will support Blu-ray (obviously), DVD±R/W, CD-R/RW
Backwards compatible with the PlayStation 2 and original Playstation
One 3.2GHz Cell processor—total system performance rated at 2.18 teraflops (uh, that’s actually about twice what Microsoft is claiming the Xbox 360 will do); it will have 256MB system RAM 3.2GHz, and 256MB GDDR VRAM at 700MHz
The nVidia graphics will be called the RSX (”Reality Synthesizer”), and will trump the Xbox 360 with 1080p (yes, that’s a p) graphics support.
There will be a 2.5-inch hard drive (i.e. laptop hard drive) attachment—a first for a Sony launch (no, we don’t count the PSX and/or the FF add-on)
Memory Stick Duo slot, and very surprisingly, an SD and CF slots
Bluetooth support with up to seven wireless controllers
Six USB system ports

For a more detailed specs check out:
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/614/614682p1.html

No one will be able to change my mind. The one I will buy will be ps3.

dubstylee
May 16th, 2005, 06:15 PM
good coverage of the launch and pics here as well (http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000050043558/)

Wipeout
May 16th, 2005, 06:26 PM
I think graphics are going to be Final Fantasy Advent Children ( a movie )

I recommend everyone to watch the second trailer to FFAC right NOW! It has the best graphics that will blow your head off.

If you have more time, also check out prince of persia 3.

AND ALSO FAR CRY INSTINCTS!!!

I WISH I COULD GO IN A TIME MACHINE SO THAT I CAN BUY THE PS3 RIGHT NOW!!!!

Lord_of_the_Dense
May 16th, 2005, 06:32 PM
I think I'm sold on this too. The specs appear to leave MS in the dust.

This is just jaw-dropping. I hope this next year goes by quickly.

Lord_of_the_Dense
May 16th, 2005, 06:39 PM
I think graphics are going to be Final Fantasy Advent Children ( a movie )

I recommend everyone to watch the second trailer to FFAC right NOW! It has the best graphics that will blow your head off.

If you have more time, also check out prince of persia 3.

AND ALSO FAR CRY INSTINCTS!!!

I WISH I COULD GO IN A TIME MACHINE SO THAT I CAN BUY THE PS3 RIGHT NOW!!!!

Something else I can't wait for. Thanks for all the links!

wonderboy2005
May 16th, 2005, 07:19 PM
It has 8 fricken processors, all clocked at 3.2GHz... thats just nuts. Im not too wild about the design though...

ferrarimodena360
May 16th, 2005, 07:31 PM
Wipeout very good posts, fairly new, but settling in well

Dragonball Z
May 16th, 2005, 07:41 PM
Thank God someone finally said something positive about me.

Dragonball Z
May 16th, 2005, 07:42 PM
Thank God someone finally said something positive about me.
How come I can't edit my post? Anyways, I had to make another account just because my other name got flamed too.

Lord_of_the_Dense
May 16th, 2005, 07:44 PM
God Damn it.

Wipeout
May 16th, 2005, 07:45 PM
God Damn it.
Sorry for all the accounts.

deshman
May 16th, 2005, 07:52 PM
PS3 >> Xbox360


...nuff said

wonderboy2005
May 16th, 2005, 08:04 PM
PS3 >> Xbox360


...nuff said

please don't start in with the fanboy material... every gamer knows that its the games, not the specs, that make a system good.

MPXX
May 16th, 2005, 08:17 PM
Did anyone say that the controller they're showing is butt-ugly...it's a boomerang!?!

And also what's with the Spiderman lettering on "Playstation 3"...it's like subliminal messaging to see Spiderman 3...ahhhh

Ya they better subject to change....

.:sp00ky:.
May 16th, 2005, 08:26 PM
mmMMMm sexy dante video....

Lord_of_the_Dense
May 16th, 2005, 08:29 PM
I don't think I care too much for the look of the controller. While I appreciate the fact that it will be wireless, I don't like the fact that if I get pissed at a game and throw the controller, it's going to fly back and nail me in the noggin.

Seriously though, if the controls are tight, and it has a good feel, I may adapt. I surely would not turn down the powerful system and potential bad-ass games for the look of the controller.

I didn't think about Spidey3 until you said that. It will pass.

wonderboy2005
May 16th, 2005, 08:35 PM
I cant figure out why they need 3 ethernet ports. one is all thats needed to connect, the other two are outputs. Does that mean that the ps3 will be a hub or router as well?

CompuGeek
May 16th, 2005, 10:11 PM
...will trump the Xbox 360 with 1080p (yes, that’s a p) graphics support.

Video game marketing is fanboy porn.

No one has a TV that can display 1080p.

:hi

ccc1005
May 16th, 2005, 11:09 PM
Video game marketing is fanboy porn.

No one has a TV that can display 1080p.

:hi

Exactly, most TVs only support 1080i AFAK...

Lord_of_the_Dense
May 17th, 2005, 12:02 AM
"Most Tvs"

It would be asinine to be forward-thinking.

There is NO WAY there could be a 1080p in 2006.

Wipeout
May 17th, 2005, 06:06 PM
please don't start in with the fanboy material... every gamer knows that its the games, not the specs, that make a system good.
Yes, the ps3 confirmed games are very good too. Watch the 2 hours E3 2005 Sony Press Conference please.

ccc1005
May 17th, 2005, 06:42 PM
"Graphics card faster than current computers" - Ya right both are saying this, but it sounds like a load of crap to me.

CompuGeek
May 17th, 2005, 07:10 PM
"Most Tvs"

It would be asinine to be forward-thinking.

There is NO WAY there could be a 1080p in 2006.

It would be asinine to advertise a feature that can't be used by the gamers who already have HDTVs.

Wipeout
May 17th, 2005, 07:14 PM
"Graphics card faster than current computers" - Ya right both are saying this, but it sounds like a load of crap to me.
What do you mean? I guess what you're saying is that pc will eventually catch up in the next 3 years? I don't really care about pc now because a HDTV is always better than a LCD monitor.

ccc1005
May 17th, 2005, 09:44 PM
What do you mean? I guess what you're saying is that pc will eventually catch up in the next 3 years? I don't really care about pc now because a HDTV is always better than a LCD monitor.

Sure the Xbox (and PS3) that are designed now have a "much faster" video card that computers, I dont think so. Why would ATI and NVIDIA develop a card just for the xbox and ps3, and not for the computer. Think about it... graphics cards dont really get that much better in a few months...

Just a lot of hype if you ask me, but either way it sounds pretty good to me, cant wait to see it on an HDTV!!!

ccc1005
May 17th, 2005, 09:47 PM
Also a quick question, if they have DVI outputs, can this be hooked up to a DVI capable LCD monitor?

Star Guitar
May 17th, 2005, 10:44 PM
The 'cards' designed for game systems are not that much beyond the pc counterparts, they are simply optimized for the game system's architecture. Even if such a card is a generation beyond, I would think that a game system's standardization would make production feasible beyond what could be done for a pc.

SrBrunox
May 17th, 2005, 10:54 PM
"VelocityGirl can make t-shirts or custom skate parks"

Microsoft has a really bizarre idea of the market, most people have desktops anyway right? why is some girl, mom, grandpa or other non-gamer gonna want to buy this? so they can send photos, video phone or listen to music? not for the price im sure this 360 is gonna cost (hint: more than $360)

Microsoft is going for a different market, a market that i do not think exists or ever will.

Sony has an awesome chance to make it big with this, i mean big. software delevlopers are gonna push this thing to the max, and itll be better than the 360. also since this is purly a gaming rig, itll probably be cheaper than the 360 and have a better market.

did you see killzone demo? omfg! no one knows if its pre render or realtime, it looks toooo good to be realtime but sony says its realtime, if this is true, loook the hell out.

SanDiegoKid
May 17th, 2005, 11:05 PM
360 and PS3 will both be huge and make shit loads of money. Fanboys on either side will have reasons to rejoice. Revolution will be a marginal success and probably have useless DS connectivity. So it shall be, now and forever.

the great one
May 18th, 2005, 12:42 AM
I'll unfortunately have to pick up a POS 3 because my POS 2 broke down,so there isn't much point in paying two hundred dollars for another one.

The graphics look decent on the new machine,but by the time it hits the shelves the graphics cards for the PC will have advanced well beyond it.What really matters is the games and more importantly the gameplay,the days of selling systems and games just on their looks are over because they all look good nowadays.

meyou123
May 18th, 2005, 01:50 AM
I just wonder what a guess is.... as to the PRICE of a new sony Ps3???

Siskabush
May 18th, 2005, 02:40 AM
The PS3 looks incredible. Me and my friend watched all the demos today. Vision GT looks so damn real, it is pretty much real.

This system is gonna murder the Xbox360. 50GB games, Cell processor that performs at 2.18Teraflops, and a GPU running at 1.8Teraflops, This is definitely game over for Xbox.

Sure, they may cash in on the christmas season, but I can guarantee you there will be lineups everywhere at stores that are selling the PS3. It will be like 2000 all over again!

The PS3 is gonna win the console wars. Hands down.

SanDiegoKid
May 18th, 2005, 10:26 AM
Game over for xBox, huh?

I think Sony will probably get a larger market share, but xBox isn't going to (ahem) fail by any means.

When I think "game over", I think "N-Gage". Now THAT'S a flop.

The thing about PS3 I think is the coolest, is that you can kill a Kangaroo at 50 meters with the controller.

.:sp00ky:.
May 18th, 2005, 10:51 AM
The controller does indeed look like some sort of sex toy.

broadwayrock
May 18th, 2005, 11:19 AM
'In an article about the Sony PS3 the Japanese Nihon Keizai Shimbun mentions that the price for the Sony PS3 is expected to be 50,000 yen (~465USD, 368EUR). The Sony PS2 initial price in Japan was 39,800 yen, so the new Playstation would start with a $100 higher price-tag'

http://www.i4u.com/article3432.html

This will probably be rounded up to a $500 launch price and then go down 6-12 months later.

jona100
May 18th, 2005, 11:50 AM
Sony and George Foreman team up for PS3 click here for pic: http://www.ircspider.com/image.php?id=7895&noscale=1&pc=1&sort=1

Wipeout
May 18th, 2005, 01:44 PM
The controller does indeed look like some sort of sex toy.
nasty minded

jona100, the adobe illustrator.

.:sp00ky:.
May 18th, 2005, 02:07 PM
"nasty minded"

yeah but i bet you will be the first to try and get your penis inside of one of the slots while sitting on the "joy"pad.

Wipeout
May 18th, 2005, 02:12 PM
slots? what slots?

Digital Bliss
May 18th, 2005, 04:00 PM
the controller looks like a pos

Auggie2k
May 18th, 2005, 04:10 PM
So the ps3 is going to be three times faster than the xbox360! ok.. this comment is just my opinion but I would never buy an xbox360! Ok, the xbox is just trying too hard to be a pc, you know.. perform too many different tasks! Sony got it spot on with what people want.. simple pure powerful gaming! Well done!

Wipeout
May 18th, 2005, 04:41 PM
Umm, you mean xbox360 right? Because I know ps3 is way more than 3 times more powerful than xbox.

Wipeout
May 18th, 2005, 07:16 PM
Anybody want a ps3 wallpaper? Well, what are you waiting for? Hurry up and set it as your background!!!

http://img268.echo.cx/my.php?image=ps3wallpaper1lv.jpg

Jim Morrison
May 18th, 2005, 07:17 PM
Wipeout do you work for sony? Have you played both systems side by side? Just because the Machine is gonna be fast doesnt mean shit. Where is the hard drive? The PS3 is gonna cost 465.00 U.S. dollars. So people are gonna have to pay 465.00 for the system then 50 bucks a piece for another wireless controller, then 30 bucks for a memory card, and 59.00 bucks for the one game.
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/615/615745p1.html

Wipeout
May 18th, 2005, 07:21 PM
No, I don't work for sony. No, I haven't played both systems. I said if you want to know about the games, watch the sony press conference. You wouldn't be asking about the hard drive if you did look at the specs. And I don't care about the cost. It deserves to be paid. Anything else you want to say?

Jim Morrison
May 18th, 2005, 07:24 PM
The PS3 looks incredible. Me and my friend watched all the demos today. Vision GT looks so damn real, it is pretty much real.

This system is gonna murder the Xbox360. 50GB games, Cell processor that performs at 2.18Teraflops, and a GPU running at 1.8Teraflops, This is definitely game over for Xbox.

Sure, they may cash in on the christmas season, but I can guarantee you there will be lineups everywhere at stores that are selling the PS3. It will be like 2000 all over again!

The PS3 is gonna win the console wars. Hands down.


Yea there's gonna be long lines at the stores when Ps3 comes out, you know why? Microsoft is releasing Halo 3 the same day.
'Note to the hard-core faithful: the next version of Halo will not, repeat not, be ready in time for the launch of Xbox 360. It will be part of the all-important second wave next spring. It's perfect,' Gates says, radiant with bloodlust. 'The day Sony launches the PS3, and they walk right into Halo 3.'

Wipeout
May 18th, 2005, 07:26 PM
Halo 3? How many people are going to buy a xbox360?

Jim Morrison
May 18th, 2005, 07:28 PM
There is no hard drive, thats my point, Is Sony gonna sell you the hard drive?

Wipeout
May 18th, 2005, 07:29 PM
Ok, there is going to be 2 version of the ps3. One will have a hard drive and the other one won't. Plus, the blue-ray almost made the invention of hard drive shit.

Jim Morrison
May 18th, 2005, 07:35 PM
I dont mean to be hatin on sony, I'm sure there gonna put out a good product, but i dont see them competing with microsoft this time around if they dont get the online gaming part right. It just seems like sony, sells you the system then wants you to buy all these upgrades to enjoy the satisfaction of the system, now that sound like a pc to me.

Wipeout
May 18th, 2005, 07:38 PM
What upgrades?

You don't need to upgrade anything.

Jim Marrison, you said the ps3 cost a lot? Well, have you thought about how the monthly fee of xbox live is gonna further cost? Think about it, xbox 360, will cost way more than ps3. But ps3 is the more powerful system. So, comparing xbox360 to ps3 is like comparing a stick with an ice cream cone.

Jim Morrison
May 18th, 2005, 07:44 PM
You had to buy a adapter to go online the original ps2, you had to buy a hard drive to play Final Fantasy XI, they promised downloadable content but ive never seen it, Then they come out with a smaller version of the ps2 that's not even compatible with the hard drive.

Wipeout
May 18th, 2005, 07:45 PM
That is only upgrades for the ps2. I'm talking about the ps3.

Jim Morrison
May 18th, 2005, 07:47 PM
We dont know yet, theres gonna be some though, you can count on it.

Jim Morrison
May 18th, 2005, 07:49 PM
Xbox live is fifty dollars a year, Maybe if sony charged a fee to play online, there online games would be worth a dam, and not laggy as hell.

ccc1005
May 18th, 2005, 08:35 PM
Xbox live is fifty dollars a year, Maybe if sony charged a fee to play online, there online games would be worth a dam, and not laggy as hell.

Im with you on that Xbox live might not be free, but it sure is damn good and well worth $50 a year IMHO.

What upgrades?

You don't need to upgrade anything.

Jim Marrison, you said the ps3 cost a lot? Well, have you thought about how the monthly fee of xbox live is gonna further cost? Think about it, xbox 360, will cost way more than ps3. But ps3 is the more powerful system. So, comparing xbox360 to ps3 is like comparing a stick with an ice cream cone.

Where is that coming from, if the PS3 is more powerful then it would be more expensive... Where are you getting that the Xbox360 is more expensive???

SanDiegoKid
May 18th, 2005, 09:34 PM
So the ps3 is going to be three times faster than the xbox! ok.. this comment is just my opinion but I would never buy an xbox! Ok, the xbox is just trying too hard to be a pc, you know.. perform too many different tasks! Sony got it spot on with what people want.. simple pure powerful gaming! Well done!

How many things is xBox360 trying to be at once, by the way? I'm curious. Please be specific.

CompuGeek
May 18th, 2005, 10:28 PM
Im with you on that Xbox live might not be free, but it sure is damn good and well worth $50 a year IMHO.



Where is that coming from, if the PS3 is more powerful then it would be more expensive... Where are you getting that the Xbox360 is more expensive???

Xbox360 will come with Xbox Live Silver (no subscription required).
You can play on Live on the weekends for free.

:icon_shak

Atheist Icon
May 18th, 2005, 11:08 PM
Xbox360 will come with Xbox Live Silver (no subscription required).
You can play on Live on the weekends for free.

:icon_shak


XBox Live Free on the weekends??!! Friggin Awesome!!

No, not really...I pay enough for games as it is...I don't have to pay for games to play online...Warcraft 2, and 3, Star Craft, and Broodwars, Counter-Strike, Day of Defeat, Half-Life 2, Call of Duty, Doom, Doom 2, etc, etc...

Point is, why pay for games a second time (or first time), then have to pay a monthly (or yearly) fee to play them?

By the way, this is for both the Xbox and PS2.

SanDiegoKid
May 18th, 2005, 11:29 PM
$4.16 per month for xBox live.

Mmm. If you're worried about that paltry sum, perhaps you shouldn't be spending money on internet access.

ccc1005
May 19th, 2005, 12:17 AM
$4.16 per month for xBox live.

Mmm. If you're worried about that paltry sum, perhaps you shouldn't be spending money on internet access.

Considering all the features that it has, $4.16 a month isnt bad at all...

.:sp00ky:.
May 19th, 2005, 01:44 AM
"Is the Killzone sequence a fair example of what people can expect from realtime gameplay on PlayStation 3?

Jan-Bart: Yeah, it's basically a representation of the look and feel of the game we're trying to make."

http://uk.playstation.com/news/newsStory.jhtml?storyId=106796_en_GB_NEWS&linktype=NSON

killzone like all the other stuff sony showed was just a video.

Wipeout
May 19th, 2005, 02:14 PM
We dont know yet, theres gonna be some though, you can count on it.
The only way to know if they do upgrade it is to wait so that is why i'm saying, if you don't know something, then don't say it.

broadwayrock
May 19th, 2005, 03:58 PM
I heard that with Xbox Live Silver for the xbox360 weekdays would be free but weekends are pay.

ccc1005
May 19th, 2005, 03:59 PM
I heard that with Xbox Live Silver for the xbox360 weekdays would be free but weekends are pay.

Yup thats correct

Wipeout
May 19th, 2005, 04:31 PM
One more thing:

X360 GPU:9 BIllion Dot Production Per Second

PS3 GPU:56 Billion Dot Production Per Second

http://forums.gamespot.com/gamespot/show_messages.php?board=909102863&topic=21067674&page=0

Anybody buying X360 is wasting shit money because you are buying crap.

ccc1005
May 19th, 2005, 05:28 PM
LMAO, ya I'll believe it when I see it man, I'm sure it will be somewhat more powerful, it is being released months later after all, however 8 times more powerful give me a break!!!

Funny how that was posted in the PS3 thread, hmmm...

Wipeout
May 19th, 2005, 05:38 PM
The problem is that the last time I saw the thread, nobody disagreed.

By watching the xbox360 and ps3 real time movies, I still can't tell the difference between ps3 and xbox360 graphics with my bare eyes. The only way is really by looking at specs.

MPXX
May 19th, 2005, 05:39 PM
Dot production = pixels right? And that source is iffy..not solid
What about the polygon count...
And that 2000 X 1000 res in you sig there isn't a 16:9 ratio..not even 4:3, a ridiculous 2:1 !?! I think that res is wrong in your sig there Wipeout....

Wipeout
May 19th, 2005, 06:00 PM
OMFG! How many times do I need to tell you it is right on the sony press conference. Here is the link if you're lazy to look for it:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/05/16/news_6124681.html?gcst=2stream_sonypress_e305.asx

IT SHOWS RIGHT ON THE SCREEN!

ccc1005
May 19th, 2005, 06:06 PM
Yes we know they said that, nobody understands what a 2:1 aspect ratio would be used for tho...

Wipeout
May 19th, 2005, 06:08 PM
And for those of you too lazy to watch the sony press conference:

Scroll all the way to 35th minute and you'll see it. The whole thing is 2 hours. I watched the whole thing.

MPXX
May 19th, 2005, 06:12 PM
well whatever it is I know that res is wrong...unless the pixels are gonna be stretched on the screen
LOL...Sony cutting corners ;) who'da thunken!

Wipeout
May 19th, 2005, 06:18 PM
Be happy that ps3 revealed the resolution and xbox360 didn't.

CompuGeek
May 19th, 2005, 10:01 PM
I heard that with Xbox Live Silver for the xbox360 weekdays would be free but weekends are pay.

Weekends will be free. Weekdays cost money.
They want to attract gamers with jobs.

Jim Morrison
May 19th, 2005, 10:42 PM
The only way to know if they do upgrade it is to wait so that is why i'm saying, if you don't know something, then don't say it.

Well you dont know nothing neither, but you are on here telling everyone that PS3 is more powerful than xbox 360 when neither system is even close to being released yet. Specs dont mean shit, its the quality of the games, features, and the pricetag that are gonna be important to the casual gamer. So please just keep on ranting about how to PS3 is so much faster.

Krell
May 20th, 2005, 05:38 AM
So please just keep on ranting about how to PS3 is so much faster.

AS IF he would stop


.

The Hunter
May 20th, 2005, 05:52 AM
This is past becoming annoying. Debating what one is the best before they even come out is assanine.

Excrement_Cranium
May 20th, 2005, 12:20 PM
The most powerful game system, evar!!! Yar!!!

Wipeout
May 20th, 2005, 02:12 PM
What wrong with comparing consoles when they aren't released it. I'm not the only one on earth doing this. Plus, you tried to compared them too. I guarantee 200% both systems will come out with good quality games. How they look like....that's a different story. I know xbox360 is not as expensive but buying that is like buying crap. I'm not a casual gamer. I went to dictionary.com and I couldn't find the word assanine. Anything else to say?

The Hunter
May 20th, 2005, 02:20 PM
asinine is the correct spelling. http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?sourceid=Mozilla-search&va=asinine

Is it not blatently obvious that you are annoying a lot of people here?

Wipeout
May 20th, 2005, 02:23 PM
You mean this is annoying because it isn't a gaming forum?

The Hunter
May 20th, 2005, 02:27 PM
As Im biting my tongue so hard right now, I will let some of the members expand on the topic, and fill you in. Im out for now.

Wipeout
May 20th, 2005, 02:32 PM
No!!!!! I hate other members talking to me. They use swear words too much. Ok, fine. I won't compare the two systems. All i'm going to do is post facts. So here are some additional facts:

PS3 is the most powerful console according to current numbers overall for the coming generation of consoles.
Both the RSX and the Xenos (Graphics processors for the respective consoles) are entirely unproven and untested in real world applications as of the time of this writing.
Xbox 360 is a second in terms of performance numbers to the PS3.
Xbox 360 was the only console to have playable games to showcase for their next gen console.
There were no PlayStation 3's or Xbox360's built and playable as they will be in their final form. Zero.
Xbox 360 has planned backwards compatability, and will eventually be able to play most if not all Xbox games. The PS3 is compatible with it's previous generations.
As of this writing, the 360 will have an integrated hard drive, whether the PS3 will have one integrated or as an addon is unknown.
Both are capable of delivering 1080p resolution. 360 native resolution is 720p while the PS3 native resolution is 1080p.
PS3 is capable of delivering it's output to two HD screens simultaneously.
Wi-Fi is standard on PS3, optional for the 360
Both have wireless controllers.
PS3 has 7, 360 has 4.
The PS3 controller is a prototype.
360 has the most sophisticated online plan presented so far.

Any other facts people wanna throw up there?

For further facts: http://forums.gamespot.com/gamespot/show_messages.php?board=314159282&topic=21079921&page=0

Xbox360 is aimed at casual gamers.
PS3 will have downloadable content

.:sp00ky:.
May 20th, 2005, 02:42 PM
No!!!!! I hate other members talking to me. They use swear words too much. Ok, fine. I won't compare the two systems. All i'm going to do is post facts. So here are some additional facts:

PS3 is the most powerful console according to current numbers overall for the coming generation of consoles.
Both the RSX and the Xenos (Graphics processors for the respective consoles) are entirely unproven and untested in real world applications as of the time of this writing.
Xbox 360 is a second in terms of performance numbers to the PS3.
Xbox 360 was the only console to have playable games to showcase for their next gen console.
There were no PlayStation 3's or Xbox360's built and playable as they will be in their final form. Zero.
Xbox 360 has planned backwards compatability, and will eventually be able to play most if not all Xbox games. The PS3 is compatible with it's previous generations.
As of this writing, the 360 will have an integrated hard drive, whether the PS3 will have one integrated or as an addon is unknown.
Both are capable of delivering 1080p resolution. 360 native resolution is 720p while the PS3 native resolution is 1080p.
PS3 is capable of delivering it's output to two HD screens simultaneously.
Wi-Fi is standard on PS3, optional for the 360
Both have wireless controllers.
PS3 has 7, 360 has 4.
The PS3 controller is a prototype.
360 has the most sophisticated online plan presented so far.

Any other facts people wanna throw up there?

For further facts: http://forums.gamespot.com/gamespot/show_messages.php?board=314159282&topic=21079921&page=0

Xbox360 is aimed at casual gamers.
PS3 will have downloadable content


Yeah you see your not quite getting the point

NO ONE GIVES A FLYING FU....DGE!

Wipeout
May 20th, 2005, 02:45 PM
They aren't fudge. You got proof?

.:sp00ky:.
May 20th, 2005, 02:52 PM
What??!! o_0


look most of the people here are over the age of 10 we don't have stupid little"my dicks bigger than yours" arguments.
im not saying the ps3 isnt more faster or what ever than xbox,im simply say no one gives a shit.
your sig and everything you post makes you sound like a little kid thats constantly shouting
"ner ner my computer is better than your computer!" ect

cant you see how much of a moron you sound?

Wipeout
May 20th, 2005, 03:00 PM
Spooky, I just said i'm not going to compare. That is over and done with. All we have to do is wait until they are released. Oh, and fudge means nonsense. You just said those facts are nonsense. So I just need proof ( evidence ) to what you said. And my sig are also just facts!

Oh. The reason I'm comparing is because I want to make sure that people know the console their getting is the best. I actually helping you. I don't want you to buy crap.

If there is no proof, I'll just ignore that post.

.:sp00ky:.
May 20th, 2005, 03:21 PM
*Bangs head agaist table*

Theirs no way you can be this stupid, ignorant and just oblivious to how you are coming across.

your going to have alot of trouble in later when you have to go outside and meet people.
their are going to be people who will want to hit you.....really hard.

oh and remember hitting rats with a stick will not give you experiance points in real life.

Wipeout
May 20th, 2005, 03:36 PM
LOL, I meet people everyday. Also, everybody had a chance to be stupid. Nobody is born smart. We learn from our mistakes. I learn from my mistakes.

Mr. Truth
May 20th, 2005, 03:57 PM
why wont someone ban this spammy troll??

this guy cant get anymore arrogant +annoying.....what a sad little f@$#

Share Poo
May 20th, 2005, 04:47 PM
To be honest it doesnt seem to be against the rules to be born a dick. :shy

Lord_of_the_Dense
May 20th, 2005, 07:42 PM
I learn from my mistakes.

This is truly a misconception.

Wipeout
May 20th, 2005, 08:14 PM
Why say that? I'm starting to make useful threads. I also learned that I should not compare consoles before they are released. Sorry people. I admit I am new to message boards.

Krell
May 20th, 2005, 10:11 PM
Why say that? I'm starting to make useful threads. I also learned that I should not compare consoles before they are released. Sorry people. I admit I am new to message boards.

If you add ur aliases together here alone you have more posts than I DO !

Add other forums youve ran in the ground, it could easily be over 10,000

You'll say anything that sounds good at the time

"I said this but I meant that" "I'm an expert, but im a newbie"


.

Jim Morrison
May 20th, 2005, 10:21 PM
I didn't wanna keep posting on this stupid thread but i just seen this on ign.com and started laughing my ass off at her stupid thread. Everyone check this out.... http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/617/617951p1.html

ccc1005
May 21st, 2005, 12:46 AM
Interesting article, shows you that one doesnt really blow out the other, they are just optimized in different ways, so in different tests one comes out on top, and they just chose to show the "nicer details"...

Wipeout
May 21st, 2005, 07:26 AM
Thank you very much Jim. It pretty much sums up the battle right now. Excellent post. Good Job. But my job is better. Read on:

In the meantime, let me add one more site: http://ps3.ign.com/articles/614/614783p1.html

Wait, I have another one: http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/games/archives/2005/05/18/ps3_and_360_battle_it_out_in_the_specs_department_ what_in_the_world_do_they_mean.html

And another one: http://bigkid.com.au/2005/05/17/xbox-360-vs-ps3/

Sorry, I was wrong. The ps3 resolution was supposed to be 1920x1080

The third site said the ps3 price is under US$465.

IMPORTANT: "The Xbox 360's CPU has more general purpose processing power because it has three general purpose cores, and Cell has just one." What I don't understand is how come they said that when Ps3 have 3.2GHz Cell w/ 7 SPEs? Sony doesn't need those three. They have 7 more processors for running different aspects of the games (shading, blur effects, AA, lighting, graphics). The Xbox only has 3 processors. That means they have to use each of them to do what the PS3 can. I think IGN is biased. I guess that journalist slept during the press conference.

Note: I am not a " her "

For more information: http://forums.gamespot.com/gamespot/show_messages.php?board=314159282&topic=21098635&page=1
That thread was started by me. I wanted to know people's opinion about the site you posted. I am just glad the population of that forum is many times bigger than here.

Final Note: Almost everyone is calling me something like a dipshit. That means dumbass. But what I noticed is when you say that, it just proved my point that you are just too dumb to put up an argument.

This is a post from someone from my gamespot thread:
That's because the "journalist" misinterpetaited what he was told.

At the CELL presentation IBM told that the branching had to be done by software because they had removed branching from the SPEs to devide them up into more pipelines.

Now the "journalist" thought that they meant the branching had to be done by the compiler and copy/pasted an text-book example about compilers handling branching makes the programs highly unflexible( we actually had the same example in our first semester). But he must have been sleeping because the branching isn't supposed to be pre-done by the compiler, it has to be controled by the OS running on the PPE.

He thought that the PPE would be the only thing that is able to do Integer calculations and that the SPEs were vector units, but they are not. The SPEs are in fact Processing units based on the RISK architecture and can do integer and floating point operations(what he thought the PPE had to handle), plus the SPEs also have each their own vector units, which can work independently simultaniously while the SPE processing unit works on something else(basically the SPEs are simplified and heavely pipeline EEs).

In other words the PPE runs the OS and is the brain that controls branching and devides the workload between the SPEs which does all the hard work.

But why should you trust me instead of a "journalist"? Well you shouldn't, you should trust IBM who made all the CPUs in the next gen consoles:

http://www-306.ibm.com/chips/techlib/techlib.nsf/techdocs/D9439D04EA9B080B87256FC00075CC2D/$file/MPR-Cell-details-article-021405.pdf

Read it and notice that I'm telling the truth.

Oh and sorry about the spelling but I'm reading up on my exam and don't have time to correct it.

In my opinion:
There is no need to compare these 2 systems anymore. This post really sums it up.

VERY VERY VERY IMPORTANT: Jim Marrison, it looks like your link is totally BS. Take a look over here:

http://forums.gamespot.com/gamespot/show_messages.php?board=909102863&topic=21114947&page=0

Jim Morrison
May 24th, 2005, 04:04 PM
Wipeout, have u ever heard that song by the bloodhound gang? Its called Lift your head up high and blow ur brains out.

Wipeout
May 24th, 2005, 04:39 PM
Stop spamming my thread about your song.

Jim Morrison
May 24th, 2005, 04:43 PM
I wasnt spamming, I was giving u ideas fool.

Wipeout
May 24th, 2005, 04:47 PM
Private message me or start a new thread. I don't even know what idea you were trying to give me. It is only a song.

shawners
May 24th, 2005, 05:14 PM
People will buy what they want and what they can afford.. The specs doesnt matter much, its the games that is gonna sale this machine.. And what people are playing, rather xbox or ps3. No one really is gonna know which one is better til they played both.. And the differences may be minimal. 465 dollars is far more expensive then when the ps2 launched. I think it was 300.00.

Jr.Wipeout
May 24th, 2005, 05:23 PM
They'll never listen to you wipeout.

Krell
May 24th, 2005, 05:43 PM
Whats next . . . Wipeout Jr?

Son of Wipeout

Wipeout II The Sequel

Dawn of Wipeout

Revenge of Wipeout

Wipeout - 28 Days Later

.

Jr.Wipeout
May 24th, 2005, 05:46 PM
So your the one??? I challenge YOU Krell

.:sp00ky:.
May 24th, 2005, 05:51 PM
"hey is that shit in your mouth"
"oh yeah, probley should give it a wipeout"


*dum dum chish*

pure gold.

Wipeout
May 24th, 2005, 06:06 PM
OMFG. Now who is spamming who's thread here?

The Hunter
May 24th, 2005, 06:07 PM
Let it go, as Im doing some house cleaning.

Wipeout
May 24th, 2005, 06:13 PM
How come I can't complain and other people can complain when i'm spamming? Is it fair?

.:sp00ky:.
May 24th, 2005, 06:20 PM
#other people can complain when i'm spamming?#
finally our beloved wipeout admits he has a problem,you know the first step to success is to admit you have a problem.

Wipeout
May 24th, 2005, 06:26 PM
didn't I admit it yesterday? I remember I said something like " I admit I am a ps3 fanboy "

The Hunter
May 24th, 2005, 06:26 PM
What are you complaining about, as I was cleaning the mess up. Im the one that should be complaining, having to go behind and house clean all the time.

Wipeout
May 24th, 2005, 06:27 PM
I'm complaining about " some people " posting stuff that isn't related to the topic of my thread.

The Hunter
May 24th, 2005, 06:30 PM
My god you are dense, Im sorry but I had to say it. I was trying to get you to back the heck off while I cleaned it up, but you just wont listen. Some other mod can deal with you as Im out of here.

YWD67
May 24th, 2005, 06:33 PM
Off topic post happen all the time. As for the PS3, I see where it is Bluetooth supported with up to seven wireless controllers. I hope to hell it is better then the Bluetooth wireless head set that my job gave to me to run on the Nextel cellphone I have. If not I wont be in any hurry for the wireless set for th PS3. My cellphone Bluetooth system sucks big time.

.:sp00ky:.
May 24th, 2005, 06:36 PM
can you people not see that he will argue with anyone about anything he would argue with a brick wall about how many bricks it had if he could,no matter what you say he will post right after it and it just goes on and on.look at the thread krell posted i did'nt post at all in that i did'nt need to he still sounded like he was having a argument with me he posted my name and said somet and even though i wasnt their he still carried on posting arguing i seriously think this kid is brain damaged and he needs help.

Lord_of_the_Dense
May 24th, 2005, 06:37 PM
Don't say another word about it Wipeout. It was addressed 10 minutes before you decided to post the issue with your complaint.

We realize someone is making fun of you and/or setting you up. That troll has been banned. Our job is to notice and deal with these kinds of things so the members don't have to, if at all possible. Much like we have attempted to do with you.

If you wish to succeed here, take our advice and move on.

Share Poo
May 24th, 2005, 07:01 PM
You were requested by a mod to drop it and move on. Why cant you just take the advice? This is a rhetorical question, and does not require an answer.

Jim Morrison
May 24th, 2005, 07:30 PM
The Mods just need to close all these threads, because they just end up in flaming, and insults, and wipeout you need to quit calling people out on your posts, everyone is entitled to their own opinion of which system is the best, without you replying that they are wrong and some bullshit reason why. No one person is wrong in there posts about which system is the best or the fastest, because the systems arent out yet, and there is no final build neither, Sony and microsoft can change hardware specs at any moment.

Lord_of_the_Dense
May 24th, 2005, 07:34 PM
Thread Over.