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Jorge
May 8th, 2005, 12:04 PM
Last month, Reid formally received a summons to appear before the US District Court of New Jersey, where MPAA members Paramount, Warner, Universal and 20th Century Fox are attempting to identify and therefore sue individuals they alleged shared their film and TV content without authorisation.
The site's owners claim they were told they might have to pay $150m in damages if they fail to settle. Settlement would cost them a mere $7m, they say.
The summons follows demands made in March this year by the studios' lawyer, Matthew J Oppenheim a partner with Washington DC law firm Jenner & Block, that Reid and Hawthorne hand over the identities of the alleged copyright infringers. If they failed to do so, Oppenheim threatened, they would too would be named in the studios' lawsuit.
That has now happened, though it's arguably of little help to Hollywood. US law does not reach as far as the UK, and even if the US Court views Reid and Hawthorne's refusal to answer the summons in a harsh light, there's little it can do about it. Should the two Brits visit New Jersey, they might possibly run into trouble, but they may well be free to visit other states of the Union safe from harassment from Motion Picture Ass. of America-member lawyers.
Reid claims Oppenheim "made it quite clear that he felt that if our Prime Minister could be persuaded to back his country in the Gulf War, then there was no doubting that American law would prevail in the UK". Fortunately, our courts tend to be a little less in awe of our transatlantic cousins than our glorious leader does.
Reid and Hawthorne have always maintained that what they are doing is legal under UK law. BitTorrent has legitimate uses, and bds-palace.co.uk links to legal content host by that network. Where they have been notified of links pointing to illegal content, they have removed those links, they claim.
What muddies the waters a little is bds-palace.co.uk's use of a US server, which is how the site came to the attention of the MPAA in the first place.
Still, Hollywood's lawyers must come to the UK, either to persuade an English High Court judge that any ruling on the evidence made in the US should apply here too, or to challenge Reid and Hawthorne under UK copyright law, which in some respects is less liberal than its US equivalent.
David Harris, a lawyer specialising in intellectual property and information technology issues at UKITLaw.com, is representing bds-palace.co.uk's owners. He recently told The Register he welcomes such a move - there are issues here, such as the difference between hosting a link to a BitTorrent file, and hosting the file itself - that need to be thrashed out in the UK court, he said.

Arch Stanton
May 9th, 2005, 08:16 AM
As an American I can proudly say I hope the Brits tell the Yanks to get fucked on this one...

MrCoggy
May 9th, 2005, 09:29 AM
I'm still more than a tad confused how someone can be brought to task for making what is effectively a hashed bookmark. There are millions of sites out there on the web that link to "illegal" content using HTML and standard web links and I don't see Yahoo or Google getting issued with a summons.

The MPAA is wishing on a prayer for this one, and the figures involved are nothing more than scare tactics. We can't even extradite terrorists without spending years over it in High Courts.

As for the UK backing the US in the Iraq war, it had nothing to do with the boundaries of international law and everything to do with a Government on a power trip. The war was illegal and was done for nothing more than reasons of oil and control. Funny how we haven't invaded Zimbabwe yet, don't you think? Maybe they'll find some Texan Tea out there and we'll suddenly get all antsy about Mugabe.

Good luck getting a UK judge to agree to a US ruling when there still hasn't been a case taken to court over there. Everybody's either settled or had their case dropped. You're a moron, Oppenheim. Bloated by your own self-importance.

Keep on spreading the FUD guys, and we'll keep flipping you the finger right back.

XtraNtnse
May 10th, 2005, 11:30 AM
I concur w/ Arch

star500
May 10th, 2005, 07:13 PM
BitTorrent is legal just kazaa is. If you Abuse It can be illegal.