View Full Version : Sorta think Shareaza is junk
duct_tape
May 8th, 2005, 12:42 AM
here, i changed it. All these people sending me PM's with threats and stuff, calling me a newb.. If it makes u feel better guys, I DONT LIKE SHAREAZZA. there. my god. never knew how stupid people could get and so defensive over a filesharing program. forums are for expressing your opinions, and posting your thoughts about other posters post.Im pretty sure the person that added to my reputation that i need to learn how to use the program cuz im a newb. oh here it is.
Learn how to use the program first before bashing it ya NEWB
okay.
wingnut2600
May 8th, 2005, 11:07 AM
yep... big ol' pile of shite. Back in the day, it used to be a workable, yet slow, p2p program. Those days have sadly passed by...
You can always use it as a media player...
RACKnRAIL
May 8th, 2005, 11:08 AM
I am not a fan either.
.:sp00ky:.
May 8th, 2005, 11:20 AM
iv never ever downloaded a entire file off shareaza my pc fell to sleep with bordom.
Miniver
May 9th, 2005, 05:18 PM
Shareaza is junk. But hey, it's great for the masses.
davec8
May 9th, 2005, 05:26 PM
iv never ever downloaded a entire file off shareaza my pc fell to sleep with bordom.
LOL! Mine too.
I've tried it a few times because I really liked the interface but gave up on it because I couldn't get a damn thing to DL. It's crap.
Evil_Dweller_01
May 9th, 2005, 05:38 PM
Shareaza is the story of "what could have been"
jimmy90
May 10th, 2005, 05:04 AM
Don't bother downloading 2.2
It's going to be better than 2.1 but you probably won't like it. The internet is running low on bandwidth anyway.
Slycktom
May 10th, 2005, 05:24 AM
/me waits for the Shareaza fanboys to strike!
Undercurrent
May 10th, 2005, 05:34 AM
Im not a fanboy, but i dont have any problems downloading with shareaza. Im not quite sure why everyone says its junk. In my experience ive found files with plenty of sources and the downloads are very fast. Maybe Im missing something, but it suits me well. Sure its not the best p2p program but its not junk in my opinion!
Roamerick
May 10th, 2005, 05:48 AM
Im not a fanboy, but i dont have any problems downloading with shareaza. Im not quite sure why everyone says its junk. In my experience ive found files with plenty of sources and the downloads are very fast. Maybe Im missing something, but it suits me well. Sure its not the best p2p program but its not junk in my opinion!
Shhhhh!!! Don't rock the boat! The last thing we need is the shareaza forums flooded with idiots. :icon_cycl
.:sp00ky:.
May 10th, 2005, 07:22 AM
Shhhhh!!! Don't rock the boat! The last thing we need is the shareaza forums flooded with idiots. :icon_cycl
lol yeah thats it try and make us feel jelous i dont think thats gonna work i remember going to the shareza forums the first time i tryed it i told them it didnt work and they gave me a 3page guide on how to make shareaz work...thats when i decided to deleate it and stick the ed2k.
Roamerick
May 10th, 2005, 08:13 AM
i remember going to the shareza forums the first time i tryed it i told them it didnt work and they gave me a 3page guide on how to make shareaz work...thats when i decided to deleate it and stick the ed2k.
...And that's why Kazaa was so successful. :icon_comp
Excrement_Cranium
May 10th, 2005, 09:46 AM
I were running that sharesteraza thany till I fianally used that butt turrent thang.
Tsumeone
May 10th, 2005, 10:31 AM
When their forums stop sucking, try Alpha ver 2.1.0.147. I'm using it and have no problems. 2.1.0.0 is pretty old, and they are already very late on their beta releases.
This program is not junk; it works just fine. Maybe you are having bad luck connecting to good neighbors? Make sure you aren't firewalled, and make sure you have G1, G2, and ED2K all enabled for the best chance to get files.
.:sp00ky:.
May 10th, 2005, 11:01 AM
Theirs nothing on either of the G networks worth getting. so your left with a crappy ed2k client stick with emule or edonkey.
grab_grab_the_haddock
May 10th, 2005, 11:27 AM
The original poster was right. Shareaza IS junk. It is also a leechers tool.
Wasn't there an issue a while back about shareaza deleting files from your hard drive? Some people say shareaza is a type of trojan.
Abyss00
May 10th, 2005, 12:23 PM
i am starting to think that shareaza is junk. i wait two days, and it can't find a song for me. i type it in, and no songs come up. and if i do find one. then the song takes about a day to two days to download.Most likely you are trying to download the song off of ED2K in which case it has more to do with the slow, long queues in ED2K then it does with Shareaze being bad or good.
If you are looking for something fast try BitTorrent.
notbob
May 10th, 2005, 12:27 PM
shareaza gave my kids drugs
i also think shareaza is secretly fucking my wife
boogiedan
May 10th, 2005, 12:54 PM
ive been a sharaza fan i past(amount of networks can connect 2)
also spyware free they say
speeds can b good on small files(shi. on big1's i thought)
it hogged mi cpu
id say i give shareaza 7 out of 10
although not using at minute
Tsumeone
May 11th, 2005, 09:16 AM
There's tons of crap on the g/g2 networks... most of my songs come from there because the queues on ED2K are miles long.
Shareaza doesn't suck, and is only a leecher's tool if the person is a dick. By default, Shareaza is configured to have an optimal upload speed as per what you specified your connection was in the wizard, plus it adds a windows firewall entry for itself [alpha], plus they will soon be integrating UPNP into it to open ports in their router for people who are too lazy or dont know how [dev forums].
I don't use it as a leechers tool, and it works great for me. Maybe the reason it sucks for you all is beacuse you are trying to use it as a leechers tool?
I agree with boogie. Although big files will eventually finish, bittorrent is much better, and for that I would not use shareaza [bt support is getting better but no where near what azureus or other clients are at]. It took me 4 days to get a 1.79gB file with G2/ED2K sources, which isn't too bad, but on BT it would have been faster. Music and Images and most video clips ~200mB or less will download at pretty good speeds, depending on the sources.
duct_tape
May 12th, 2005, 10:26 AM
no. It sucks.
.:sp00ky:.
May 12th, 2005, 10:46 AM
There's tons of crap on the g/g2 networks.
glad we agree.
Christoph
May 12th, 2005, 11:43 AM
shareaza is my number one app.
Tsumeone
May 13th, 2005, 03:18 AM
glad we agree.
There are a multitude of good files on the G1, G2, and ED2K networks.
There are also a lot of CRAP files on each of those networks.
G1/G2 works better for me because I don't have to wait in a line for two weeks to get a crappy or good file.
DwarfBaby
May 13th, 2005, 04:30 AM
I wish there was a web site that you could just search and click on a download link just like the old sharereactor, only their website should be much faster and has about a hundred times more content. Oh and the downloads should immediately start at your Maximum download speed allowable by your ISP and continue at that speed with no slow downs until completion and of course all the results must be verified as working (not fake or broken) before you even attempt to download them and their should be no messing around with routers or firewalls to get it to work. No multiple networks or constant updates, it should just work. You should also be able to search for groups related to the genre of music, programs, games or whatever you are looking for. Hell they should allow you to download the whole genre group ISP bandwidth permitting. Leaching is not only just permitted but encouraged. And to finish it off their should be something called repair files or (.par files or .par2 files) that way if something goes horribly wrong when downloading a file it can be fixed in about a minute without downloading the whole file over again.
No this is not a fantasy of a perfect futuristic Utopia. It is called newsgroups or Usenet to be proper. No this is not spam as I am not selling anything as their are thousands of NewsServers and Newsgroups. And Indexing sites are a dime a dozen.
If you want to change you life either find Jesus, Yahweh, Allah, Buddha, whatever, or find Newsgroups. If you want to find newsgroups this website will help http://www.slyck.com/ng.php. As with slyck, Buddha and myself we are only selling peace of mind and oneness of soul.
littlebits
May 13th, 2005, 05:53 AM
Shareaza is one of my favorite P2P programs. I never had any problems with it. But if someone doesn't like it they are many other options. I often use LimeWire, eMule and BitComet. It depends on what I'm wanting to download. For me Shareaza is the easiest to configure and I usually get faster downloads speeds on it than what I get with other clients except eDonkey downloads & BitTorrents and I use eMule and BitComet for that. I still don't understand why some people think that it leaches off of eDonkey. I can run Shareaza and get a least 3 times more uploads from eDonkey Network than what I get when I use eMule, but eMule has faster downloads than Shareaza maybe because of the KAD Network. I have noticed a lot more KAD Network downloads and uploads lately. I believe it takes more than one P2P program to serve someones needs. Shareaza might not be the best for some people but it serves my needs. When I go to search for something to download I usually start with Shareaza first, then I will go to another program if I can't find something with Shareaza.
ThankYou :icon_thum
Roamerick
May 13th, 2005, 06:11 AM
Yup, spot on. Also you can learn to make the best of the different nets supported by Shareaza. For instance I'll search for a movie on G2 only, and only expand the search to other networks if I don't find it there (a progressively more rare occurrence). The reason being that if the movie has a good few G2 sources it will come through at some crazy BitTorrent-like speeds, so G2 is a great place to start.
And for some reason Shareaza has been beating even my favourite BT client, Azureus, in the BitTorrent speed stakes. Especially 'cause people have started using torrent creation tools that include SHA1 and ED2K hashes in the torrent file, meaning that quite often Shareaza will start the download on BT, then add sources on all the other networks and really boost the speed. The latest alphas have been rock-solid and fast. Can't wait for the beta. They should fix the forums today, so fingers crossed!
John W. Lindh
May 13th, 2005, 12:17 PM
Talk about beating a dead horse. The last version was released 8 months ago, their website is unreachable and their lead developer fled like a year ago. It'd almost be sad, if Shareaza didn't suck as much...
maynoth
May 13th, 2005, 03:01 PM
I think its funny how all these people seem to think Shareaza is junk.... LOL if you know how to tweak it you can get huge extensive searches and fast downloads... I like it better than limewire, and kazaa, and ares. Bittorrent will always be my favorite but as far as decentralized p2p clients I think Shareaza is top notch. If you disagree then please tell us what client(s) are superior and why.
Tsumeone
May 13th, 2005, 10:02 PM
Talk about beating a dead horse. The last version was released 8 months ago, their website is unreachable and their lead developer fled like a year ago. It'd almost be sad, if Shareaza didn't suck as much...
http://shareaza.sourceforge.net/?id=home
I think you suck :) How about them apples =P
Dynochem
May 13th, 2005, 10:26 PM
OK guys calm down!... it's only a P2P program
Here's some shareaza facts (not opinions) from me... draw your own conclusions
I was one of the guys who up until a month ago could have around 40 files downloading at once, totalling up to 90KB/sec. (The settings, i agree, were a nightmare to get it running that good)
But suddenly...
Shareaza has been acting 'strange' for the past few weeks (i.e. only connecting to a couple of files at a time).
Last 2 days been the worst... never reached more than 4 or 5KB/sec in total!! Never connect to more than 2 files at once. Funny how the Uploads seem to go out OK though?.
Also, like other users, can't log onto shareaza.com. (no settings been altered on my PC since everything used to be OK)
So I tried 3 different friends' PCs (different phone lines, disabled firewalls) used IE6 and Firefox.... but can't connect to any of the Shareaza links.
Also worth mentioning that friends also report the same massive drop in speed of downloads and no. of connections without having altered any configuration settings.
So... don't go messing with stuff on your PC.
Something's happening at Shareaza... suppose we'll just have to wait & see, or jump ship to another P2P?
They all have their day... when Audio Galaxy got shut down along came Kaaza to save us. Now its being dumped cos its too risky. So if this is the end for Shareaza, something else will be waiting to pick up the pieces. (Soon I hope)
stephengary
May 14th, 2005, 08:43 AM
:icon_rabb ive tried most of the higher rated sites with no success compared to shareza the first i tried was kazaa which though was large in number it was either pay for it or have sh## loads of advertisements i then tried lime wire that was very slow and its files were impossible to tell if they were the right ones i tried to get shrek and got matrix. i then tried imesh and winmx good but complex especially winmx. edonkey is also another good share site but the queus are that large you could be waiting a long time but with shareaza you get most networks already with ie lime wire bearshare morpheus imesh and such if you connect to gnutella 1 and then theres edonkey if you can handle the wait theres also bittorrents which are impressively fast if you can get trackers that work and gnutella 2 which is very fast and the queus are useually only 10 long which is exceptional compared to edonkey which usually has queus in the 1000's so i have had a lot of experience when it comes to p2p networks and shareaza is probably one of the better the only problam ive come across recently is that i cant get acces to their site currently if anybody knows the situation please let me know thanx. :icon_rabb
Vampmon
May 14th, 2005, 09:27 AM
Being honest, Shareaza is a good program, its open source, Adware free and has a gorgeous interface.
If you've been testing out the Alpha versions lately, you'll notice a lot of improvement, in the Gnutella area if I must say so.
You can get latest info on what is going on in there chat room: www.p2pchat.net/chat/shareaza.php
whatabunchoffreakinlosers
May 14th, 2005, 10:38 AM
I have never had a bit of difficulty with shareaza. Not a fanboy either, it just seems to me that maybe people are not configuring their connection properly (firewall perhaps). Maybe your isp blocks well known p2p clients port #s. Try using a port other than 6346, then talk. Hope that works ;)
notbob
May 14th, 2005, 10:43 AM
I have never had a bit of difficulty with shareaza. Not a fanboy either, it just seems to me that maybe people are not configuring their connection properly (firewall perhaps). Maybe your isp blocks well known p2p clients port #s. Try using a port other than 6346, then talk. Hope that works ;)
why waste time on configuring when i can get anthing i want right now?
i tried shareaza, it was nothing special
whatabunchoffreakinlosers
May 14th, 2005, 10:47 AM
just use gnuclus and rid yourself of further complications. lol
whatabunchoffreakinlosers
May 14th, 2005, 10:49 AM
how to get alpha versions please, and which version is best to use?
billsBS
May 14th, 2005, 10:52 AM
the reason yu cnaot download i a hardware or software fireware firewall, ICS (Internet connection sharing), a router, or a gateway is interfreiing with the connections. Configure the program correctly, and it works well. Runs BitTorrent while also downloading the same file off of G2 at the same time.
whatabunchoffreakinlosers
May 14th, 2005, 11:03 AM
I find that most P2P clients using gnutella are pretty much the same. It all depends on what the user prefers, but the protocol in use (gnutella) is the exact same. For instance, if you do a query in Limewire, you will get the same results also from gnucleus, bearshare, deepnet explorer, etc. The only difference is the way the user preferences are setup. At least this is in my experience. IMHO, the best gnutella client is one which is easy to configure, and looks nice without hogging resources. Gnucleus would probably gey my vote for that. I have wondered why Neonapster is featured in these forums, but Gnucleus is not. Neonapster is merely a Gnucleus clone. Just my $.02. Not a fanboy either, but I hope this may help some of those who also have questions about the same subject.
Tsumeone
May 14th, 2005, 11:43 AM
how to get alpha versions please, and which version is best to use?
They are on the forums. The forums and their main site are down until Monday due to power problems.
I use version 2.1.0.147, and it works great.
For those who suddenly have speed problems, try uninstalling, deleting any shareaza folders in your C:\Documents and Settings\YourName\Application Data\ or \Local Settings\ or whatever areas, making sure there isnt a shareaza folder in program files, and then reinstall.
zab
May 14th, 2005, 11:53 AM
Why bother configuring when other apps works better without any tweaking? Shareassa is, has been and will continue to be utter crap. Avoid at all costs!
John W. Lindh
May 14th, 2005, 05:20 PM
Is this thread still alive? I thought we settled on Shareaza being junk....
duct_tape
May 14th, 2005, 06:50 PM
well let's just leave it at that!
MPXX
May 14th, 2005, 07:45 PM
someone close this stupid thread...
You can have the opinion that Shareaza is junk but don't put it in the Shareaza forum...goto some anti-shareaza forum if you want to do that...jeeze idiots
John W. Lindh
May 14th, 2005, 11:30 PM
someone close this stupid thread...
You can have the opinion that Shareaza is junk but don't put it in the Shareaza forum...goto some anti-shareaza forum if you want to do that...jeeze idiots
I guess, people often fail to realize how generous these Shareaza zealots are. Even unbelievers like me get to be entitled to our opinion (although we might not get to express it and certainly not in the pro-shareaza forums at Zeropaid). Anyhow, may I express my deepest admiration for this amazing display of great character and love for freedom of thought.
I would add a Shareaza-v.d. comparison here but then somebody would have to delete this posting.
davec8
May 15th, 2005, 01:59 AM
someone close this stupid thread...
You can have the opinion that Shareaza is junk but don't put it in the Shareaza forum...goto some anti-shareaza forum if you want to do that...jeeze idiots
Where would you like this thread to be?. I didn't realize there was pro-shareaza and anti-shareaza sites.
Tsumeone
May 15th, 2005, 09:31 AM
From what I gather:
Some people think shareaza is good, because it works for them.
Some people don't like it because they don't want to have to configure it.
Some people keep bashing it because they are too stupid to use it.
And that just about sums it up.
Feel free to keep posting your opinions here and whatnot, but Shareaza is not "junk" IMO.
fixthemix
May 15th, 2005, 09:43 AM
i agree its got bad it takes off me but won't give anthing i am finding limewire ok
maynoth
May 15th, 2005, 11:09 AM
Tsumeone,
yeah that about sums it up. If you know how to tweak shareaza it can be better than any other p2p client out there besides maybe Bitorrent. It is awesome for find rare files and its search filters and review system really help locate the best files, and eliminate the fakes. I find files I cannot find with other p2p clients, and I often download a file from 300-400 sources at once from G1 and G2, not counting ED2K. I get max speeds for my connection. It just requires an IQ above 80 to use, so these morons bash it constantly.
John W. Lindh
May 15th, 2005, 11:19 AM
Finally, the fanboys strike back!
I especially like "Some people don't like it because they don't want to have to configure it." (also known as the Shareaza approach towards usability and comfort).
zab
May 15th, 2005, 12:21 PM
MP zealots are not even fanboys, they are fanbois
Excrement_Cranium
May 15th, 2005, 01:17 PM
Come on guys, shareaza is just fine. As long as you are ok with slow dl's, long queue's, and some files that won't dl at all. :icon_thum
Shareaza... the Kazaa of a new generation.
Tsumeone
May 15th, 2005, 01:54 PM
Lol, everyone's so negative :/
Yeah, unless you are not using XP SP2, a router, or a firewall, you will have to change some settings, either in Shareaza, or in your firewall/router/tcpip.sys. On many programs you will need to change settings for various situations. Depending on the situation, Shareaza could require more attention. All I had to do to get it working MY way is set it to port 21662, forward that in my router, open it in zonealarm, then up the number of max sources, transfers, downloads in Shareaza, as well as telling it to connect to 3 g2 hubs as opposed to two. Without doing the last few things, it would not have been as fast, and that's bad. Without doing ANY of that, you'd get a firewalled status, and everything would be slow and sucky, just like almost any client.
Slow downloads, long queues, files that never DL? Sounds like the entire ED2K network. Yeah, it happens in Shareaza. Usually on files with only ED2K sources though. And I get the same thing with eMule.
I am not a fanboy. I simply cannot see why people in this thread so vehemently oppose Shareaza, when I as well as my friends with broadband connections have little to no problems with it. We all get fast downloads, downloads rarely fail, and it is in general awesome. If it doesn't work for you, I suggest a clean reinstall, of Alpha version 2.1.0.147, or the newest one avaliable on Monday when their forums are back up. You will find these in the Development Discussion forums of the Shareaza website.
davec8
May 15th, 2005, 02:02 PM
Come on guys, shareaza is just fine. As long as you are ok with slow dl's, long queue's, and some files that won't dl at all. :icon_thum
Shareaza... the Kazaa of a new generation.
That about sums it all up.
Excrement_Cranium
May 15th, 2005, 03:29 PM
Look. I used Shareaza for a while. It was fine for files here and there. But the truth is, at that time I could use Kazaa as a backup prog that was actually MORE reliable than Shareaza. Even with all the fakes and whatnot, I still had more luck with Kazaa, that says quite a bit. At this time, I'm kind of burned out on DL's.
notbob
May 15th, 2005, 03:36 PM
Lol, everyone's so negative :/
Yeah, unless you are not using XP SP2, a router, or a firewall, you will have to change some settings, either in Shareaza, or in your firewall/router/tcpip.sys. On many programs you will need to change settings for various situations. Depending on the situation, Shareaza could require more attention. All I had to do to get it working MY way is set it to port 21662, forward that in my router, open it in zonealarm, then up the number of max sources, transfers, downloads in Shareaza, as well as telling it to connect to 3 g2 hubs as opposed to two. Without doing the last few things, it would not have been as fast, and that's bad. Without doing ANY of that, you'd get a firewalled status, and everything would be slow and sucky, just like almost any client.blah blah blah.
nobody said it doesn't work.
they said it sucks compared to other stuff
get it straight
i don't care what port you use or what settings you use--it is irrelevant when i can already get anything i want when i want it in other places.
and for the love of god if you use shareaza for bt, do yourself a favor and get yourself a real bt client
DigitalJunkie
May 15th, 2005, 04:41 PM
If you have to tweak your client's default settings & become a "Aggressive" user. YOU should be banned for that! P2P is not built for that purpose, go use IRCs, Newsgroups or BT instead!!!
Tsumeone
May 16th, 2005, 10:56 AM
IT doesn't suck for me. If it sucks for you, one can only assume you are doing something wrong.
I am not tweaking it to be "agressive" - ETomi does that.
And no, Azureus is miles ahead in the BT department compared to anything, including shareaza. I use Azureus for BT, Shareaza for everything else. EMule is too slow, Limewire took up too much resources, Ares WAS good, now it's flooded with crap files just like all other p2p networks, and nothing really downloads anymore.
babarfloyd
May 16th, 2005, 01:00 PM
LOL! Figures.....all you have to do is mention Shareaza and all the haters come out of the woodwork to bash it.
.:sp00ky:.
May 16th, 2005, 02:04 PM
yeah and all the fanboy 1posters come to tell us all how great it is and it must be us thats doing something wrong.
John W. Lindh
May 16th, 2005, 04:20 PM
LOL! Figures.....all you have to do is mention Shareaza and all the haters come out of the woodwork to bash it.
Actually, the bashing started first, then the fanboys showed up, hence the name of the thread....
Tsumeone
May 16th, 2005, 07:58 PM
yeah and all the fanboy 1posters come to tell us all how great it is and it must be us thats doing something wrong.
I don't post unless I see something that deserves a post... like Shareaza's site being down... or a bunch of people bashing it who probably couldn't figure out how to use it.
zab
May 16th, 2005, 08:05 PM
I don't post unless I see something that deserves a post... like Shareaza's site being down... or a bunch of people bashing it who probably couldn't figure out how to use it.
more like people who have lives and don't care to spend hours tweaking a crappy app when everything else "just works" out of the box
jakebrake5
May 17th, 2005, 12:41 PM
howdy,
Ive had it for a month, it started giving me trouble week 2
I could get it to play mp's up to week 3
now it just downloads, but wont play, and it wont let WMP play the mp's alone by itself either, you have to uninstall it to set WMP free, brilliant
J
maynoth
May 17th, 2005, 01:10 PM
the shareaza team needs to make a "lite" version for these losers who dont know how to set up port forwarding on 6346-TCP, and 6346-UDP in their router to their machines local IP address, and or allow incoming/outgoing traffic through their firewall on those ports.
The Hunter
May 17th, 2005, 01:17 PM
Losers? Possibly they need to make a program that doesnt try to be the Swiss army knife of file sharing.
maynoth
May 17th, 2005, 06:05 PM
thats what I love about shareaza, is its ability to pull from G1, G2, and ED2K if need be during searches, and then in downloads.... If it exists on G1, G2, or ED2K Shareaza will find it, and pull from all three networks while downloading. I agree, Bittorent beats it hands down.... but as a last resort for finding rare or otherwise unavailable files, shareaza 0wnz.... well if you have the intelligence to forward ports 6346-TCP & UDP through your router and/or firewall, and do a little tweaking...
The Hunter
May 17th, 2005, 06:17 PM
I still find your comments degrading, as it has zip to do with being smart, rather it has to do with actually having the desire to want to learn to do this. PS, insulting people, and calling them dumb is not the best way to encourage folks to actually learn to use the program.
maynoth
May 17th, 2005, 06:20 PM
Actually I would rather discourage them from using Shareaza, if they don't know how to set up port forwarding they should stick with normal kazaa, that way I can leach their connection to death...
The Hunter
May 17th, 2005, 06:27 PM
Impressive reasoning. I guess it is nice being born knowing everything about filesharing. On that note Im moving on, as I have no time for selfconfessed leaches.