DC++ forum

[scatterbrain]

I wish they'd do something about it - it's been like that for a while now, it doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

[Abyss00]

Do something about what? What are you talking about?

[phalkon30]

I noticed that too when I saw the DC++ release on ZP's homepage. Right now it says "Every day a script kiddie is born - use condom."

I'd say give it a little time, like tomorrow. I think I read somewhere that phpbb has a major security hole that was recently found, and being a high profile forum like DC++.....kinda makes you a big target.

[Abyss00]

There it is:
http://dcplusplus.sourceforge.net/forum.html

"Every day a script kiddie is born - use condom."

[scatterbrain]

it's been like that for a few weeks at least.

[notbob]

good

i hope they never come back

their forum was run by such assholes

fuck hashing and fuck dc++

[scatterbrain]

yeah i hear that hashing is unpopular with the chronically impatient who don't care about file integrity, but there's always kazaa for them

run by assholes? did you ever try the soulseek forum when soulseek didn't work?

"Soulseek doesn't work"

"omg wtf d00d u suxx0r at computers"

(cue riker pic)

[notbob]

yeah i hear that hashing is unpopular with the chronically impatient who don't care about file integrity, but there's always kazaa for them

run by assholes? did you ever try the soulseek forum when soulseek didn't work?

"Soulseek doesn't work"

"omg wtf d00d u suxx0r at computers"

(cue riker pic)


how about the chronically uninformed who sing the praises of hashing?

does a hash make a bad file good? what tells you that a file has "integrity"? multiple copies with a matching hash? that just means that maybe your corrupted piece of shit file has made the rounds

dc is about big shares, so why discourage the people with big shares by forcing them to waste hours upon hours of processor time? multi source and magnet links are for impatient noob idiots, and are the only real reasons to hash

fuck the noob idiots, i don't need them

[Digital Bliss]

notbob im sorry you feel like that dc is a simi safe network for people who get tired of getting fucked up files its better then kazaa limewire and shit because of consistencey you dont have to piss around when you want rare stuff i have been using dc for almsot 5 years and you notice somthing i did all of the p2p networks are going down in flames dc is still standing too bad you feel that way but to each their own i guess....

[Digital Bliss]

Errr hashing does not take that long you this i know 200gbs on dc and im doing fine with the hashing not a care in the world. I love dc because people know their shit and you dont really have to worrie about files being faked or courpted and you dont have noobs wet behind the ears on dc.

[notbob]

Errr hashing does not take that long you this i know 200gbs on dc and im doing fine with the hashing not a care in the world.

of course not, not with a baby share like that which is all contained in one box

try hashing a network share


I love dc because people know their shit and you dont really have to worrie about files being faked or courpted and you dont have noobs wet behind the ears on dc.

my point exactly--why do you need to hash then?

[Digital Bliss]

Honestly if you want to know ask the people that made dc++ and as for my share I only share what i need to get into most hubs no point in boasting

[notbob]

Honestly if you want to know ask the people that made dc++ and as for my share I only share what i need to get into most hubs no point in boasting
people did (when they had a forum)

if people had problems with hashing the developers answer was always "your computer sucks, get a better one" or "we don't see the problem, you must be screwing up"

which is why i'm happy their forum is gone

they showed nothing for contempt for the users who made them what they are, so as i said before, fuck them

[Abyss00]

good

i hope they never come back

their forum was run by such assholes

fuck hashing and fuck dc++
notbob, always has such nice things to say about everything.

You really should make a bot that just makes random posts like the above one.
No one would notice the difference.

[notbob]

notbob, always has such nice things to say about everything.

You really should make a bot that just makes random posts like the above one.
No one would notice the difference.

luckily, i don't give a shit what you think

read the rest of the thread

[alex_s]

Sorry in case I've missed a forum, I only want to announce new hub.

It is located at http://bonanzas.rinet.ru/gHub.exe

The project has just started, that's why no doc's and no help are awailable, but
it already works in our local network connecting 6 tiny hubs and up to 500 users.

There is not much of the functionality at the moment (project is too young :), but there are some unique features like independent multilinking (all the hubs are independent from each other) and rating based access scheme. Rating depends not only on the share size,
but on the time spent at the hub also. And it is partially compatible with the xHub (can
be link and server).

I'm the only developer of this project and I can be found at
alex_sh(antispam)kcci.kharkov.ua

[phalkon30]

Your program sounds cool, but in general its a bad idea to download .exe files from people with only one post. There have been too many times where one posters sign up and try to get people to download virus's.

[Sgop]

how about the chronically uninformed who sing the praises of hashing?

does a hash make a bad file good? what tells you that a file has "integrity"? multiple copies with a matching hash? that just means that maybe your corrupted piece of shit file has made the rounds

dc is about big shares, so why discourage the people with big shares by forcing them to waste hours upon hours of processor time? multi source and magnet links are for impatient noob idiots, and are the only real reasons to hash

fuck the noob idiots, i don't need them
notbob, you don't know what you are talking about, do you?

Hashes don't have anything to do with multisource. As soon as you can download a file at any offset, you are able to do multisource.

Hashes are good for two things:
1) From time to time there are transfer errors. The peer client has a bug or the peer client crashes and sends corrupted data shortly before. Hashes can help to detect those errors.
2) But hashes are more useful to find sources. If an download aborts or you like to resume it on another day, hashes can be used to search for users that offer that file (no matter whether you like to do single source or multi source). Using hashes to search for sources is MUCH faster than using keywords/filesize. And this (in case of directconnect) means that YOUR client needs less CPU, especially if you have a large library.

So the main reason for hashes in p2p protocols is a fast search and not validation. And that absolutely makes sense since more than 95% of the searches are done to find sources for incomplete downloads.

[SamJam]

run by assholes? did you ever try the soulseek forum when soulseek didn't work?

"Soulseek doesn't work"

"omg wtf d00d u suxx0r at computers"



LMAO... That is true. They usually aren't that nice. :icon_puke

[notbob]

notbob, you don't know what you are talking about, do you?

Hashes don't have anything to do with multisource. As soon as you can download a file at any offset, you are able to do multisource.

Hashes are good for two things:
1) From time to time there are transfer errors. The peer client has a bug or the peer client crashes and sends corrupted data shortly before. Hashes can help to detect those errors.
2) But hashes are more useful to find sources. If an download aborts or you like to resume it on another day, hashes can be used to search for users that offer that file (no matter whether you like to do single source or multi source). Using hashes to search for sources is MUCH faster than using keywords/filesize. And this (in case of directconnect) means that YOUR client needs less CPU, especially if you have a large library.

So the main reason for hashes in p2p protocols is a fast search and not validation. And that absolutely makes sense since more than 95% of the searches are done to find sources for incomplete downloads.


dc is a decent community

in good hubs, hashing is redundant, as people only share good files, and don't cut off your downloads

in the places where this doesn't apply, where corrupted files and jerks are prevalent, you still have to figure out what files and hashes are the good ones, so you still need to search at least once

even then, a hash means nothing, because dc++ hashes everything, and therefore even hashes the corrupt, incomplete shit

pull your head out of your ass and look around for a while

[Sgop]

you either didn't read my post - or you didn't understand it..

[alex_s]

Your program sounds cool, but in general its a bad idea to download .exe files from people with only one post. There have been too many times where one posters sign up and try to get people to download virus's.

Oh. I see. But now, when win98 has almost passed away, it doesn't make much differnence whether file is zipped or is in an exe format. I'm just far out of the age when one can have an idea to produce malicious software :)

With 2000 or XP you can download a file without starting it and then study it with a debugger or with your favourite antivirus. The same problem as with a zipped exe. [sign].

To make another step forward I've installed the hub at 193.111.17.67:411

You can test it remotely to see it is quite real software :)

[Pø†øƒGøLÐ]

of course not, not with a baby share like that which is all contained in one box

try hashing a network share




my point exactly--why do you need to hash then?

I tried hashing a 600gig network share - it took 3 days. I since returned to client version 306 to avoid hashing... the alternative being to drop the network part of the share (which ironically is what people seem to want most).

The only problem now is some hubs are refusing to accept "older" clients so you find yourself locked out of some.