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WillemB
March 29th, 2005, 02:33 PM
What if you use a semi decentralized setup like eDonkey where clients offer their content to the servers. All requesting parties do a search request to the servers and the server acts like a directory.

Now make sure the servers are in countries which have bureaucracy as a sport or just hate america like Iran, North Korea or something. This way the servers hosting names of content are impervious to lawsuits and lawsuits are just too costly. I'd like to see the RIAA trying to get their ISP info. But then again the servers only have names and no material itself.

When you request content over an encrypted line and download it over an encrypted line all records in America or Europe are just data and not copyrighted material (They can't prove it).
This way nobody sees your requests or incomming traffic which means your download itself is safe.

The RIAA can for example do a search on content and find the big players and sue them. They define 800songs as illegal and lawsuitable i heard. This can be countered by only supplying a sourceID as the holder of the data which can be translated to an IP on request. All IDs are unique even if their data holder is (server side table). This will make you have to request the IP per source from the server which is ok for clients. This is to stir the shit up and make an RIAA scan the server 1 source at a time until they have enough info on one big player. This should be highly filterable.

Another idea might be to provide a password message which selects a random password for entry of lets say 4 letters to read the content of the server or to get the data from another peer. This way every transaction is an easy hack and if the RIAA pulls out a lawsuit you can say they hacked you and their claim is unlawful and sue them for unlawful entry :-).

If all else fails we can always build a P2P-wifi network but somehow i think it will soon become illegal :-P

Just a few ideas which might spark :-)

Lehk
March 29th, 2005, 03:51 PM
that would work, but the servers would have to be private servers or they would be DDOS'ed by the sheer volume of people downloading from them, just like ROM sites get hosed.

ducttapeBigSexy
March 29th, 2005, 05:41 PM
The fact is is that there is no perfect solution - a directory based network would quickly run into bandwidth problems (just look at bittorrent - it accounts for about 33% of the internet's traffic - now think of all of that on one server!)

And, to prevent a network being shut down, it really has to be decentralized - problem is (as we currently see), this leads to fakes. Centralized can be shut down. And, other steps (such as anonymous file sharing, such as with MUTE) is that it is slow and takes some knowledge to get working. Like anything, really, there is no perfect solution. Not to mention that file sharing has pretty much become a standard thing - completely switching takes some work (just look at bittorrent - that took years before it was the powerhouse it is today)

ratbag
March 29th, 2005, 06:11 PM
i have a solution to stop the RIAA MPAA drive a truck loaded with explosive up to their front door and then nonchantly walk away

shawners
March 29th, 2005, 06:25 PM
Put riaa off by not sharing music ? ? ?

WillemB
March 30th, 2005, 01:10 AM
With directory i ment a cluster of servers like in eDonkey which users can connect to and offer their sources and get told where to go.

Anyway i know what work it takes to setup P2P systems. You need a load of donating power to act like a starter motor and then do some bigass advertising campaign.

How come internet radios can stream music and we aren't allowed to share?

origin
March 30th, 2005, 02:56 AM
its hard to win when the opposition is cheating & has every possible outcome cornered off. It's obvious to the few of us that the riaa and politicians got this situation under control riaa sets standards for there industry(witch are in no way fair) and once those are in place the politicians complete the job creating & or passing legislation to restrict the general public(the consumer) from doing whatever the riaa feels like is unnacceptable. The situation is becoming a bit ridiculous, soon people will be going to jail for like for one mp3 file(I know it sounds exxagerated but if the riaa had it there way it be nothing less than that). we as a group need to change the ways of these politicians because they are elected by us put in office to represent us to channel the people's concerns through the proper channels so that they get addressed. But instead we got politicians who put there own well fair and hapiness above the interests of the people who make them who they are( one who keeps his/her own interests in mind while making big time decisions is not a leader or representitive because they will just lie to you and still do whatever they please regardless. sorry rant is complete.lol.

l8

Malicious Intent
March 30th, 2005, 05:35 AM
It sounds like your plan isto protect the servers and the downloaders.

The Supreme court is going to throw out the this Grokster appeal crap, so P2P companies will be safe. Indexing site can always try and get hosting in other countries anyway. Downloaders aren't being sued.

This only leaves uploaders. As long as a direct connection is made for file transfer, then uploaders can be sued. They will just sue you $100,000 for infringing the copyright of one song, instead of $millions for 800 songs.

Lots of P2P applications hide the number of shared songs anyway. Instead of having a source ID that needs to be referred to a central server, the just dont respond to a general request. They only respond to specific key-word searches.