Why ANts is faster than MUTE

[Hornet]

PowerPoint presentation explaining why ANts is faster than MUTE

see http://www.myjavaserver.com/~gwren/Ants/ANts-MUTE.ppt

Hornet

[xrobot]

Although I don't like close-sourced exeem, but they seem didn't promote it as your SPAM. You just showing that Ants is of a handful users only, you want more to attend... :tol

Once again, unless the creators tackle bugs in Ants, we just can't trust it seriously for p2p.

[Hornet]

Although I don't like close-sourced exeem, but they seem didn't promote it as your SPAM. You just showing that Ants is of a handful users only, you want more to attend... :tol

Once again, unless the creators tackle bugs in Ants, we just can't trust it seriously for p2p.

How is this SPAM?

Why don't YOU do a Powerpoint outlining how to tackle bugs?

ANts P2P is open source so you can make your own changes unlike exeem.

TRUST - it is better to trust an open source program than a closed source spy-fest like exeem.

You can't measure number of users by how many are on irc. ANts p2p now uses gnuttella webcache to bootstrap on to the network.

Did you even look at the ppt before you made your childish comment?

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR P2P LATELY?

Hornet :shy :shy :shy

[xrobot]

You can't measure number of users by how many are on irc. ANts p2p now uses gnuttella webcache to bootstrap on to the network.

Did you even look at the ppt before you made your childish comment?

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR P2P LATELY?

I am an end-user, not a programmer, but I like Ants, I had it installed already. I just want to express that PLEASE no need to promote it again and again. Had bittorrent promote like that? No. Bittorrent start with a few of p2p users too, because of it didn't have fancy interface, nor it include a file search engine. But soon after the end-users request for big file and speed, Bittorrent came right in the place. No excessive advocated of words. Even today, the official site is so ulgy, but Bittorrent just works!

Hornet, actually I think that Ants MAY BE one of stronge apps in anonymous p2p. But it need to be better. It need to be enjoyable to use. Keep saying it is "faster than what" or "superior than what" will not help.

Anyway, what about "uses gnuttella webcache to bootstrap on to the network"? I (and other end-users)want to know more.

[Roamerick]

The program should speak for itself. Clearly, it is not ready to do that just yet.

[Abyss00]

Anyway, what about "uses gnuttella webcache to bootstrap on to the network"? I (and other end-users)want to know more.
Ants uses the webchache to find people to connect to. Before connecting to Ants was done solely through IRC so you had a good idea of how many people were on Ants by how many people were in IRC.

[xrobot]

Ants uses the webchache to find people to connect to. Before connecting to Ants was done solely through IRC so you had a good idea of how many people were on Ants by how many people were in IRC.o-i-c, thx for your info Abyss00 :;)

[xrobot]

The program should speak for itself. Clearly, it is not ready to do that just yet.Hey man, you got the point.

[Hornet]

The way ANts works is that when a search goes out, it goes from node to node similar to a gnutlella search.

However, when you choose to download a file then that file follows that same route back to you rather than making a direct connection.

So effectivly everyone is a middle-man for everyone else.

There is no direct connection between uploaders and downloaders.

ANts DC (Direct Connect) P2P works in a similar way except that users have the option to make a direct connection when file is found.

So in ANts DC users opting for direct connection are not anonymous, other users can see their ip address and files like a nomal P2P program.

However, ANts DC users could spoof their ip address within ANts.

A user could could use the ip address of a neighbour or trusted peer instead of their own address.

ANts DC could then instead of making a direct connection could use ip addresses to add new neighbour nodes and as the starting point to find new nodes to connect to.

(In other words use the IP address from the query results in "addneighbour" and "set routing point" procedures within ANts DC).

Using this procedure users can make one hop connections therefore making file transfer fast while retaining some security as they do not directly tell others their ip address.

This is ip spoofing in ANts DC.

I have written and tested code to do this and it works.

I have only been writing java for a couple of weeks so I've mostly re-used Gwren's code and classes.

You could have both an option for direct connection and ip spoofing within ANts.

You could use a flag (in query results) to indicate if the ip address is "real" or "spoofed".

If the ip address is a "spoof" address it can be used to add a new neighbour (i.e.used in "add neighbour" and "set routing point" procedure).

If the ip address is a "real" ip address it can be used to make a direct connection and also to integrate with other 2nd gen programs.

Gwren is really busy and under a lot of pressure but he has proved that having direct connections does not lower overall network security.

So ip spoofing should not lower network security for those who use ANts normally.

I have offered to send Gwren the code for using ip address from query results to add neighbour and set routing point, ip spoofing.

If ip spoofing is adopted user would have three options: secure slow downloads, one hop less secure but faster downloads and fast normal p2p downloads.



Hornet :hole :bling :hole

[Siskabush]

Please stop ressurecting SPAM THREADS!

Can we ban hornet again please.

[Hornet]

Please stop ressurecting SPAM THREADS!

Can we ban hornet again please.

I think ANts has more users than visitors to your site burger boy.

So thanks for bumping this thread Wanabe.

This is a valid post about a NEW development in P2P.

I can't wait until the RIAA bust your Canadian asses then perhaps you'll appreciate new programs.

Until then just ignore ANts thread and the ANts forum.

Hornet :fire :finger :fire