Eyes On The Prize

[c411Z]

This is a documentary series about the glory years of the American Civil Rights Movement, starting in 1952 with the murder of Emmit Till and the subsequent trial and ending with the civil rights march to Selma in 1965. Along the way, the series touches on the major figures of the movement such as Martin Luther King and Rosa Parks and major incidents such as the Little Rock school riots and Montgomery, Alabama Transit Boycott.

I AM LOOKING FOR SOLIDARITY IN CAUSE TO HELP SHARE/SWARM IN THIS FILE GET THE CLIENT TO GET IT AND HELP ME SHARE this 1950;s documentary that is banned by the MPAA and FCC/Feds & other layers/cogs of lifeless insitutions perpetuation copyrights/human rights violations from being shared by downhillbattle the p2p advocacy group @ http://exlite.pl exeem lite .20 beta spyware free THanks!


no demands period

[notbob]

This is a documentary series about the glory years of the American Civil Rights Movement, starting in 1952 with the murder of Emmit Till and the subsequent trial and ending with the civil rights march to Selma in 1965. Along the way, the series touches on the major figures of the movement such as Martin Luther King and Rosa Parks and major incidents such as the Little Rock school riots and Montgomery, Alabama Transit Boycott. exeem://...n The Prize I AM LOOKING FOR SOLIDARITY IN CUASE TO HELP SHARE/SWARM IN THIS FILE GET THE CLIENT TO GET IT AND HELP ME SHARE this 1950;s documentary that is banned by the MPAA and FCC/Feds & other layers/cogs of lifeless insitutions perpetuation copyrights/human rights violations from being shared by downhillbattle the p2p advocacy group @ http://exlite.pl exeem lite .20 beta spyware free THanks!

you can't post the links, no matter how good the "cause" is

it's copyrighted, and no different than linking to spiderman 2 or something

[moneoa]

does not matter what we think lol
I explained it when I deleted the links in her news posts and she called me an ogliarch.

Can't please everyone

[c411Z]

by having power-over you can be nothing but one. moneoa you accept that? and i would like to see you voluntarily deprivlage that or allow everybody else to have this forum in a egalitarian way that would mean a system like www.infoanarchy.org (http://www.infoanarchy.org) or www.slashdot.org (http://www.slashdot.org) or even on wiki were we are all equaly powerful selfempowered to allow moderation and concensus style allowance /. disallowance. read up on it and for the people who still want to help me seed
search Documentary _ Eyes on the Prize 2nd page 201-400 in the D-s under movies hi-quality

and when will you 2 recognize that copyrights are human right violations thats is way to win this war on sharing and let artists know to do contribution of media for the love of it and really connect to their base as well as allowing others to have more exposuer by not signing to media monopoly institutional agents like RIAA etc.( reference universal decralation of human rights and teh 4+ owning of ideas prevents peopel from meeting in all out lives ) , less the plugtocrat technocrats autocrat cog ass wage slave bitches

my choices will not be limited! to do that to peopel when they are not harming you is typical facist action.

Freedom!!! (the real definition with in dirrect democracy)

(raises the Fist!)


ps oh ya if you aim is to 'please everybody ' id say you line steped and are taking responsable for others feelings and being coercive. and yours are your own and others their own. And do you accuse me of harming life? i'd like to know what jorge things of you being his tool and how he feels about what you do , even himself and the operational burden of being at the top of this centralized hierarchy..

and dont call me 'her' or 'him' please. andrognony before making assumption is prefered

[The Hunter]

It is only to protect this website, and I will not permit you or anyone else to intentionally cause us harm.

[AussieMatt]

Or you just get the Links from this mirror @ Boing Boing

http://www.boingboing.net/2005/01/31/eyes_on_the_screen_t.html

BTW Mods its not a direct link please check if your concerned .

[c411Z]

protect the side sounds reasonable to me as long as its done in a as accountable and transparent way meeting my needs and yours. (like y does this site have adware/spyware (the very stuff so many users are irate about over exeem Unclean about) tracker cookies from doubleclick etc.)? (is it about capitalization off users visits (if so I'd suggest a per donation policy to support the sites hosting before a sellout to lifeless institution (advert. corporations)? and i found a way to subvert it. USE FIREFOX and enable don't load images not from originating site under options.
what i have done is only contribution to the quality of discussion and content availability and the strengthening of ideas of the site & i feel positive about this. NOT harm. ho The Hunter do you think what I've done harms it surely you have seen a increase in visits thru my direct actions that i hope will inspire others to my de-schooling wayz.

thanks AussieMatt i know these are not direct links as i also know there are hash link sites. but you know i dont feel like following some arbitrary spotyly enforced rules (if they were really layed down and enforced i couldn't so this... http://www.infoanarchy.org/comments/2005/1/22/16655/6411/5?mode=alone;showrate=1#5 a link to the hash link on another site.) (as Diognes of Sinope i show the hypocrisy of authority thru my cynicism)







"" The Cynics had no canon, no schools, no academic lineage, but their teachings flowed through the cultures of Greece, Egypt, Asia Minor, and Rome. Those influenced by the Cynics include Christian monastics and Friedrich Nietzsche What could be a more ideal environment for a cynic than cyberspace—the ethereal realization of cynical politics? Diogenes was a hacker. The Internet is a cynical cosmos. It was designed along cynical principles and serves cynical ends better than any others. And nothing represents the overall nature and substance of the Internet better than masturbating in the marketplace. Where else but the Internet can you purchase, write and wank off—all at the same time? ""

[The Hunter]

It pays the bills, and it has been my experience that donations generally wont cover the costs.

[notbob]

blah blah blah


lots of words, nothing to say

you want revolution, start your own site, and post all the links you want--real activism/civil disobedience involves taking personal risks, not exposing others to them

that's why downhill battle are nothing but cowards, they do the same thing as you--post links , then let others take up the slack

that's not civil disobedience, it's marketing, risk management, and calculated pr

[c411Z]

notbob its easy to critisize / make demands / label and not so easy to do your research & be compassionate
.
you know i asked you not to keep using your tactic of violence ya?

how about some of that empathy i asked for?

[AussieMatt]

Lots of words, nothing to say

you want revolution, start your own site, and post all the links you want--real activism/civil disobedience involves taking personal risks, not exposing others to them

that's why downhill battle are nothing but cowards, they do the same thing as you--post links , then let others take up the slack

that's not civil disobedience, it's marketing, risk management, and calculated pr Calcualted PR that got articles with Rueuters and other news agencys and 35 Public sceenings of Eyes on the Prize aross the US and Intermationaly .

I would say thier campaign to show how inadequate the current copyright laws are and how copyright owners can walk all over fair use for educational puposes has been quite sucessfull. .

The reason it got taken off the downhill Battlesite is quoted here

It wasn’t long before Blackside’s lawyers caught wind of this. When they asked Downhill Battle to remove the torrent links last Friday, they promptly did — but not before, by Cheng’s estimates, about 2000 people had downloaded the files. "We understand that [Blackside can’t allow themselves to be] implicated legally in what we’re doing, so it wasn’t too much of a shock," she says. "We’re trying to be as respectful as we can. We don’t want to wage any sort of battles with the copyright holders, especially because this is an important film and we need to focus on the film." To that end, says Cheng, everyone who has a copy of Eyes or can somehow get their hands on one should host a screening, large or small, on his or her own.
http://www.reuters.ca/locales/c_newsArticle.jsp?type=entertainmentNews&localeKey=en_CA&storyID=7526056
http://www.blackamericaweb.com/site.aspx/bawnews/eyes203
http://www.maroon-news.com/news/2005/02/04/ArtsFeatures/Copywrighting.Our.Way.To.Erasing.The.Past-852801.shtml
http://www.bostonphoenix.com/boston/news_features/this_just_in/documents/04446454.asp

[notbob]

notbob its easy to critisize / make demands / label and not so easy to do your research & be compassionate
.
you know i asked you not to keep using your tactic of violence ya?

how about some of that empathy i asked for?
logic is not violence

societies have rules. ancient greece had them, the US has them, zp has them. to be a member of a society, you agree to adhere to established norms (a "social contract")

if you choose not to agree to that contract, it is your perogative, however, you can not expect a society to conform to "your" norms, as you are not in a justified position of power--on your own website, you would be, or in your own waste mesh etc

god forbid people don't do what you want, but it's fine that you call people oligarchs and make demands of others though, right?

[infringer]

Nothing wrong with standing with the downhill battle imho but the no linking to copywrighted material or warez has been a rule set in place from day one.

Lots of words or not I think you had some good views but the rules apply... As far as the spyware is concerned you can simply use free internet eraser each time you are done at the ZP forums...

Though they make money off of this spyware and such they have a section which is dedicated to the removal of and detection of spyware which is mighty white of them. Most sites just give you spyware and send you on your merry way ZP however does have a section dedicated to discussion about removing it, so they can generate ad revenue as well as keep the users happy.

The intentions of ZP are good. I am sure they have a pretty high volume of monthly bandwidth monthly here and the bill is quite hefty.

-infringer-

[the great one]

It's funny how people complain about exeem or other programs having spyware and/or adware.
If these programs didn't have it in them they wouldn't be able to give them away free.

Good luck with getting that documentory out to people c411Z!

[c411Z]

"We’re trying to be as respectful as we can. We don’t want to wage any sort of battles with the copyright holders respect is a need we all have as persons a lifeless institution is not a person witch can demand such needs be met by using their cogs who have sold out to to serve deathly processes of deprivation

like mandela said today poverty and prevention of access to knowledge is onpar w/ slavery

serve life? (starting with your own) towards unions of egoists in federation of earth

we help each other naturally, because we enjoy it being compassionate is an effective way to meeting your n33ds there is much available, and we can all win everyone's needs/wants/aspirations/itches/desires/values are valid, and there is no 'deserve' , things are always changing dynamicly, and my efforts make the difference between things getting better and things getting worse. violence is habitual , learning happens informally and experientially . you always have the choice . humans in partnership with, planet(s)/universe. what is" good" or "right" is not completely knowable, and is itself evolving and well worth to accept the unknowables and not linestep. Helping someone else, also helps mydself.


notbob: No , i see you diging yourself deeper now making a accusation of me to that i want to rule others and putting yourself in that catagory of people i am not... i let you choise witch one it is your in....
"Political tags-such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth-are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire."

2. no i dont "have" a WASTE mesh it's/they'r everyones who IS having made choice to mesh that it's/em's of.
3. alright for me to discribe others actions thru my observations and knowlege of how the process they are involved in makes them? oligarchying. betta? a person need not can choose to or not to, tis not a need to dominate less you allow it be over yourself as well other self sacrifce as infringer says in 'is sig. "call me what you will", and we'll see how positive or negative their emothional and fullfilledness gets ya? take notes. i am. astjeblief

infriger : , apologist of others and defensive about their 'diserve'? users 'good' any way self sacrificing for a 'moral' value?
yes a ad/spy/compromise prevention section a nessisary awareness of whats being happened to us. but you see the hypocracy of it ? the active seeker does find it's way towards it's own satisfaction (ad/animal product/processed food free-ness of)

buck civilization/de-domesticate boys girls men women queer hermaphrodites and transgenders! woot

[notbob]

have you ever considered sentences? while they may be considered a tool of the establishment, they really help people to understand what the hell you are trying to say.

once sentences are mastered, perhaps you can move to independent thought, and maybe a philosophy of your own, rather than a random hodgepodge of what you heard from your shrink last week.

[infringer]

infriger : , apologist of others and defensive about their 'diserve'? users 'good' any way self sacrificing for a 'moral' value?
yes a ad/spy/compromise prevention section a nessisary awareness of whats being happened to us. but you see the hypocracy of it ? the active seeker does find it's way towards it's own satisfaction (ad/animal product/processed food free-ness of)

buck civilization/de-domesticate boys girls men women queer hermaphrodites and transgenders! woot
Very true there is a somewhat ironic argument that can be put into place with spyware complaints but again no other places that I know of provide you with the knowladge of the spyware and how to rid it and contain spyware on the same site...

But it is a nessacary evil would you rather see the website shut down due to lack of funds?

You also have the option of not comming not that I dont enjoy your company or your posts or your company cause many are quite nice. The thing is to honk the horn at zeropaid for having adware is really unnessacary... You obviously like the website regaurless of the spyware or you wouldnt have came back...

You wanna argue about the downhill battle or about political views by all means but we who come here are happy to be a part of the community known as Zeropaid ... And if it takes a little advertisements or what have yah for them to stay running so be it...

As you stated yourself there is a way around it... Not only is there 1 way around it there's several ways around it, and the forums do have the information available and if the information is not there you could post it with no questions or opposition...

So really weather you have spyware installed on your system by ZP it is your choice...

Zeropaid or not Zeropaid that is the question...

By the way nifty lookin advatar.

-infringer-

[c411Z]

yes. infringer. i know. i do come i do enjoy and i do know of a few ways around it, but that is not the issue really of this post for me. it came up becuse i was repetedly cencored.
in my posting of non dirrect links and thats ok (it's the days they were still there/visable and the fact i am not yet banned (as i have been 5 times already here by ops indulging in authoritarianism and moralism witch i don't see as ops any more maybe of there own fustration with the self sacrificing duty and obligation of it) that i am glad about). for witch there is 7 seeds on exeem for Eyes On The Prize now i can proudly say.... :)
i like the advantar too ;) to zeropaid!

notbob your still at it? assumptions
what do you want out of what you are doing (static labels/evaluation)? i know what i want out of you and i've repedetly stated it and not gotten any yet. i don't expect to yet but my hope is one day you can make a paradoxal shift towards compassionate contiousnes for your well being and mine (to not feel threatened/judged)

[AussieMatt]

I would have to say the Moderators are very arbitary in thier decisions on Zeropaidand it happens happens quite often. I had a person harrasing me and claiming I was someone else ,they where also claiming I was harvesting IPS from Zeropaid and then when I critised one of that persons posts he posted my real name and threatened to post my Adress and phone number on a open forum and the mods sat and did nothing ,but some people do the smallest thing on Zeropaid and get banned the Mods need to be consistant and fair when enforcinng thier rules or it Justs makes them look incompetant .

[The Hunter]

I am not able to respond to every possible complaint, or view every thread. I do have a life outside this place, even though it may not appear like I do at times. We try our best to be fair with everyone here, and most decisions are made by us mods as a group, as we value each others opinions, as we do yours.

[c411Z]

concesus process then? and can i get a few stories about mods that were undone.. (as far as u having read way more threads that ever i will and owning :)?
a p2p that colaberativly decentralizedly hosts , freenet like , but more seperate darknets per site based with hooks to a http dirrect and procall feed and acceepter.. are the Exeem comments system working like this? i know the WASTE chat room does too . building the present, hosting the past and asking the next peer around for the current or near past catch up. to do a wiki style forum.... whatcha think any illegal opensource programer(s) wanna get down on that idea for me?

a complete list of these 'rules' that everbody eludes to .that i think becase i felt there be none or is it more organic and left to the ''''oligachs present mood'? then again not ever knowing is not expecting others to either and suspicious of those that make claims they do ..

[notbob]

a complete list of these 'rules' that everbody eludes to .that i think there be none or is it more organic and left to the ''''oligachs present mood'? then again not ever knowing is not expecting others to either and suspicious of those that make claims they do ..

direct file links have been against the rules forever

"oligachs" (there's the labeling again) have nothing to do with it--every link (that gets caught) gets deleted, no exceptions, game over (rule #1 in fact)

the rules are at the top of every section-- http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/announcement.php?f=128
for instance

don't like the rules? then by all means feel free to annoy other people somewhere else

[The Hunter]

There is another rule listed there, about arguing with a mod.


8) Don't pursue arguments with the mods regarding judgment calls -

[c411Z]

JUDGEMENT = VIOLENCE have you read?

moralistic or life serving?

[infringer]

I am not able to respond to every possible complaint, or view every thread. I do have a life outside this place, even though it may not appear like I do at times. We try our best to be fair with everyone here, and most decisions are made by us mods as a group, as we value each others opinions, as we do yours.

You mean to tell me that you really are not superman! dam... Who is going to take his place in the waking of his death :P

j/k hunter you do a fine job as a mod I dont think there is an issue there.

My take on the linking situation and how the rules basically break down are:

"Rules are no direct links to named files or no links to the page holding the direct link to named files that are in violation of copywright infringement. You wanna mention a website that is P2P related and not a direct download warez type site fine but leave the file names out of it. However, files that are open source and not copywrighted are allowed direct links. If you are unsure of the link and weather it is illegal ask a mod before posting or just dont post the link. Linking to virus infected files is also not allowed. Any breaking of this rule will result in either a warning a temporary ban or permanent ban and the decision on this will be reached by popular vote."

Does this sound like the pretty much standard rule hunter that you are trying to enforce this is how it seems to me fair enough if you wish to add the clarification to the rules be my guess but this seems like the rule around here.

-infringer-

[The Hunter]

Here we go again, please dont try preaching to me about philosophy. Violence schmiolence, its the rules, and I do my best to follow them. If you are incapable of following rules, and only wish to confront someone then you are wasting both your time, and mine. Please take your petty trolling elsewhere, as this is obviously not a site that you approve of.

[moneoa]

When I have sore muscles I use A535, it penetrates deep and to areas those other creams can't.

I always know I have nothing to worry about when I have my A535

Pick some up at your local drugstore or grocer

Arm and Hammer

A Church & Dwight Co.

[notbob]

When I have sore muscles I use A535, it penetrates deep and to areas those other creams can't.

I always know I have nothing to worry about when I have my A535

Pick some up at your local drugstore or grocer

Arm and Hammer

A Church & Dwight Co.

there really was a guy named armand hammer

[the great one]

This argument's been going on forever!
I don't think it's wrong to PM a mod about a bad judgement call,but arguing with them in a forum isn't going to get anyone anywhere.

[c411Z]

no no no no no

[c411Z]

Hi. I'm new to forums and find this one in particulary interesting ...

If I may also join the dialogue: I read someone post the following -

ou want revolution, start your own site, and post all the links you want--real activism/civil disobedience involves taking personal risks, not exposing others to them

that's why downhill battle are nothing but cowards, they do the same thing as you--post links , then let others take up the slack

1. that's not civil disobedience, it's marketing, risk management, and calculated pr you ?
* How do you defin "real you want revolution", start your own site, and post all the links you want-"-real activism/civil disobedience involves taking personal risks, not exposing others to them"
2. "what do u mean by 'cowards' and what is this "slack" u speak of? - that's why downhill battle are nothing but cowards, they do the same thing as you--post links , then let others take up the slack
In know in that order we are able to live in a free and equaly soceity there must be no tolerance to the the acceptance and contribution to lifeless entities suck as corporations, ya? and OUR right is information. Property 'intellect' icopyright is the enemy to educated citizens .. iT our choice to choose life over lifeless ness ... and until we begin to make those decisions, things will only get worse.

[c411Z]

ps youing somone oelse computer
i'll add my profile now

[moneoa]

This thread could use a little more cowbell

[Mels_Smileys45]

Its already got a jackass. no bell included. Someone strap one on him so we can here the ass coming




ewww that sounded nasty

[notbob]

Hi. I'm new to forums and find this one in particulary interesting ...

If I may also join the dialogue: I read someone post the following -

ou want revolution, start your own site, and post all the links you want--real activism/civil disobedience involves taking personal risks, not exposing others to them

that's why downhill battle are nothing but cowards, they do the same thing as you--post links , then let others take up the slack

1. that's not civil disobedience, it's marketing, risk management, and calculated pr you ?
* How do you defin "real you want revolution", start your own site, and post all the links you want-"-real activism/civil disobedience involves taking personal risks, not exposing others to them"
2. "what do u mean by 'cowards' and what is this "slack" u speak of? - that's why downhill battle are nothing but cowards, they do the same thing as you--post links , then let others take up the slack
In know in that order we are able to live in a free and equaly soceity there must be no tolerance to the the acceptance and contribution to lifeless entities suck as corporations, ya? and OUR right is information. Property 'intellect' icopyright is the enemy to educated citizens .. iT our choice to choose life over lifeless ness ... and until we begin to make those decisions, things will only get worse.


civil disobedience--personally breaking a law you feel is unjust in public to prove a point even though you know you could be punished

examples(probably covered in "eyes on the prize"): rosa parks sitting in the front of the bus, MLK and the bus boycott

they stood up for a principle and went to jail for it

cowardice letting go of your principles when threatened

examples: downhill battle dropping their links for their "protests" with the 1st whiff of a lawsuit, you (callz) endangering zp while taking no personal risk at all, and calling it protest

taking up slack initially, a term related to a rope, basically pulling up loose rope instead of doing the actual work of pulling up the weight on the other end. in the case of these "protests" downhill battle dumps the anchor on others and then takes all the credit for themselves while others take risk hosting files, seeding, etc long after they (downhill battle) saw a lawyer and ran away

i think the copyright battle is a waste of time, and the sides of "good" and "evil" are a lot closer together than you think--downhill battle, trusty files, kazaa have no interest in changing copyright law other than to line their own pockets selling ad space and tshirts

all any of them really cares about is money, and they use ideological teenagers like you as human shields. would downhill battle help you if you got sued? or kazaa or trustyfiles?

downhill battle has no problem letting you print stickers and take them to sam goody, of toss flyers, but where are they when you get arrested? MLK went to jail with his supporters, so did ghandi--what does downhill battle do? recruit more stooges, and there are plenty out there

the "free culture" movement is a farce. you want free culture, get off your ass and make it instead of giving away someone else's. culture has never been free, why would it start now? because a bunch of people with no money want it to? give me a break. money always wins.