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ABC_thellookoflove
February 1st, 2005, 12:45 PM
1. Ants should send the search request to the direct neighbour with a direct ip to ip connection

2. This neighbour decides, if there is one hop or two hops used, and a random route with ants protocol and IDīs is done.

3. The destination node then sends it via g2 protocol to a g2 hub with ip to ip connection, which performs a new own g2 network (not connected to shareaza).

4. With the ID the search request is done, results are sent back (ID of the sharer, IP adress of the 1-2-hop-neighbour).

5. The requester gets the IP adress of the (one or tho hop) neighbour of the ID, hosting the wanted file.

:shy

shawners
February 1st, 2005, 03:55 PM
it all seems so simple.

evilmegaman
February 1st, 2005, 04:11 PM
You and your theories... You must be one of those guys who never had their invention see the light of day.

either that or YOU haven't seen the light of day in years.

Man kinda strange that you come up with all these random ideas. No wonder you used to call yourself "hybrid theory" but I may be wrong :P

Malicious Intent
February 1st, 2005, 04:50 PM
When returning search results, the number of hops should be counted. The node with the file can randomly pretend to be the first, second or third hop. Only the third node stamps the search results with an IP address.

The node requesting the file then connects to the given IP, and the current ANts protocol can be used to find the first node from there. 1/3 of transfers would be direct, with never more than 2 proxies.





EDIT - Deleted the word "then".

rainbowdemon
February 1st, 2005, 05:26 PM
Remember when all you had to do was find the file you wanted, click "download" and it was yours?

The Hunter
February 1st, 2005, 05:30 PM
Im sticking with what Im using, and if I start hopping anything its going to warm and cuddly. With a pair of 36s.

rainbowdemon
February 1st, 2005, 05:38 PM
You are, of course, refering to Mrs. Hunter!!

lol

The Hunter
February 1st, 2005, 05:39 PM
You got it bud.

tsafa1
February 1st, 2005, 06:45 PM
Gwren has stated you can not mix a secure protocole with and un-secure protocole, and so he will not do this. The net result will be a less secure system. I have seen and posted a screenshot of some pretty fast downloads on Ants anyway. So I do not think ants needs this. Rather ants just needs some further developements along the path it is going now.

however, this would be a very good idea for networks that use G2 to try.

Regarding counting hops or something, as info moves from one hop to the next it has no record of where it has been for a reason. This is how anonymity is maintained.

mp3MaStA88
February 1st, 2005, 07:22 PM
1. Ants should send the search request to the direct neighbour with a direct ip to ip connection

2. This neighbour decides, if there is one hop or two hops used, and a random route with ants protocol and IDīs is done.

3. The destination node then sends it via g2 protocol to a g2 hub with ip to ip connection, which performs a new own g2 network (not connected to shareaza).

4. With the ID the search request is done, results are sent back (ID of the sharer, IP adress of the 1-2-hop-neighbour).

5. The requester gets the IP adress of the (one or tho hop) neighbour of the ID, hosting the wanted file.

:shy
Wow this is a great idea...! I never would have guessed that something like this would come up. It would be great if this was made or implemented into a program for the public to use!

ABC_thellookoflove
February 2nd, 2005, 03:58 AM
> Gwren has stated you can not mix a secure protocole with and un-secure protocole, and so he will not do this.

If the 2. generation protocol is only getting IDīs and remote shared libraries, it is possible.
We speak not of hybrid to shareaza now, but of an own g2 network protocol inside 3. generation.

> I have seen and posted a screenshot of some pretty fast downloads on Ants

this reaers only to bit torrent style downloading, so to a transfer protocol, But we need a **searching** system, as well for rare files. They are not found on ad hoc. Files every one has partials of are found, but we need a search meachanism: g2 with IDīs.

ABC_thellookoflove
February 18th, 2005, 02:39 AM
When returning search results, the number of hops should be counted. The node with the file can randomly pretend to be the first, second or third hop. Only the third node stamps the search results with an IP address.

The node requesting the file then connects to the given IP, and the current ANts protocol can be used to find the first node from there. 1/3 of transfers would be direct, with never more than 2 proxies.
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Interesting, this is similar to the concept of a supernode queen for each ants conony, providing its IP adress for other colony queens.

The queens then can communitcate over the g2 protocol with direct Ip adresses.

So ... ants to ants use IDīs as well Ants to queens use IDs.,
Only queens to queens use IP adresses.
Then the conony in australia is quick connected to the colony in europe.

The queen has all the remote indexed media with IDīs of the 2-5 hop away ants and relates its own IP adress to the media and the ID.

Then Media will be found very easily, if the queens communicate over g2 protocol.

Search results contain then the
- guarantee,t hat EVERY file of a colony is indexed.
- the file is found in the queens colony with 3-5 hops
- the direct IP adresss of the queen is found very quick.
- the ID of the sharer
- the Filename
- the route- information from Queen to ants
- the IP adress of the queen.