Saw 2: Hacksaw [Archive] - Zeropaid Forums

Vampmon

January 13th, 2005, 07:48 AM

Original Saw thread here: www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=24093

The sequel to the surprise hit Thriller movie Saw
Not much is known right now, but pre-production starts early 2005 (Feb)
New information says the movie wont be called "Hacksaw" ...

Saw 2 is also to be released on October 28th 2005.

Anyone who has info on this movie just post it here.
Don’t you think its slightly early for a sequel?

Official Saw Site: www.sawmovie.com
Official SAW 2 Site: www.saw2.com
Saw DVD Site: www.sawdvd.com

TheBlackSnow

January 13th, 2005, 07:57 AM

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/index.php?Show=2945&Template=newsfull
well, I havent seen orig. saw yet... but I own it. avtually, alot of people love that movie.

Potato

January 13th, 2005, 08:02 AM

I didn't love that movie.
Actually, I thought it was the worst movie I'd seen in a while. The fact that there is a sequel in the works makes me cringe.

Vampmon

January 13th, 2005, 08:09 AM

Saw was ONE OF the best movies of 2004, reviews were good too, i really didn't think it would do as well as it did, hopefully Saw 2 will be better. Though i know this is bullshit but on some sites they say Michael Jackson and Eminem will star... LOL

TheBlackSnow

January 13th, 2005, 08:12 AM

I didn't love that movie.
Actually, I thought it was the worst movie I'd seen in a while. The fact that there is a sequel in the works makes me cringe.
well, I hope that my opinion, when I'll watch the movie, will be better.
potato, maybe you dont love horror movies?

Potato

January 13th, 2005, 08:22 AM

well, I hope that my opinion, when I'll watch the movie, will be better.
potato, maybe you dont love horror movies?

Maybe I just don't see the value in a poorly made movie with poorly delivered terrible dialogue by actors working perhaps at their absolute worst.

It had great potential... but that's about all.

mfgbypooter

January 13th, 2005, 09:21 AM

on some sites they say Michael Jackson and Eminem will star... LOLIt'll have to be a prison movie.

SanDiegoKid

January 13th, 2005, 02:14 PM

I didn't think Saw was all that great... but as far a suprise endings go, I didn't see it coming.

Vampmon

January 13th, 2005, 02:40 PM

It'll have to be a prison movie.

If they star, it'd have to be a comedy.

TheBlackSnow

January 13th, 2005, 02:46 PM

If they star, it'd have to be a comedy.
well, little children are dreaming micheal in the nightmares I think... so, for kids it would be horror movie.

crackerjacker

January 13th, 2005, 03:31 PM

I liked saw the first one, but to be honest why a second part we know one of the two killers was in the room all the time in the first version.
so whats the point?

Mels_Smileys45

January 13th, 2005, 08:50 PM

I didn't love that movie.
Actually, I thought it was the worst movie I'd seen in a while. The fact that there is a sequel in the works makes me cringe.

I've noticed your very hard on movies in general. Maybe jaded is the right word. Are you the girl in the back thats always saying "people can't really do that" or "A car can't really flip like that"? I was once that way but now I just enjoy them for what they are, a way to shut my brain down for 90 minutes. Saw wasn't great but it was a good ride. Its one I wouldnt care to watch again though. All movies can't be a master piece like Pulp Fiction.

I have to say a sequel makes me think less of Saw 1. There is somehting to be said about being unique. Its a safe bet this movie will blow the horse.

Mels_Smileys45

January 13th, 2005, 08:51 PM

CJ you just spoiled the movie for anyone who hasnt seen it. The suprise ending is the one and only reason to watch it.

infringer

January 13th, 2005, 08:59 PM

The Saw there is a lot of mixed judgement about this movie I cant wait till it comes out on DVD so I can watch it and figure out what is what some like it some hate it cant wait to rent it.

-infringer-

TheBlackSnow

January 14th, 2005, 07:41 AM

CJ you just spoiled the movie for anyone who hasnt seen it. The suprise ending is the one and only reason to watch it.
hey, I dont care what say others about that movie... I'm going to watch it next week.

Potato

January 14th, 2005, 12:20 PM

I've noticed your very hard on movies in general. Maybe jaded is the right word. Are you the girl in the back thats always saying "people can't really do that" or "A car can't really flip like that"? I was once that way but now I just enjoy them for what they are, a way to shut my brain down for 90 minutes. Saw wasn't great but it was a good ride. Its one I wouldnt care to watch again though. All movies can't be a master piece like Pulp Fiction.

I have to say a sequel makes me think less of Saw 1. There is somehting to be said about being unique. Its a safe bet this movie will blow the horse.

Hmm... I'm not the one that says "They can't do that!" but I'm the one that says "That rug wasn't there a second ago." [American Beauty, one of those dinner scenes]

With "Saw" I just had these expectations because there was so much buzz about it on the internet... I hate walking into a movie with expectations.

Mels_Smileys45

January 14th, 2005, 01:11 PM

Hmm... I'm not the one that says "They can't do that!" but I'm the one that says "That rug wasn't there a second ago." [American Beauty, one of those dinner scenes]

With "Saw" I just had these expectations because there was so much buzz about it on the internet... I hate walking into a movie with expectations.

I'm one of those people too. I love spotting editing/prop errors in movies. I'll look at American Beauty again and see what youre talking about

napho

January 14th, 2005, 01:27 PM

I enjoyed it. Saw was an above average horror movie imho. If people go into it with unreal expectations or they hate this genre then of course they won't be satisfied.

Vampmon

February 14th, 2005, 07:52 AM

Just been looking at the certification for Saw, some countires are crazy, how can they allow 12 and 13 year olds to see that kind of violance...

Certification:
UK: 18
Australia: [ - ]
Brazil: 16 Singapore:16 (edited version) Argentina:16
Canada:16 Japan:15
France:12 Philippines:13
Germany:18 Finland:18 Ireland:18 Norway:18 Singapore:18 (uncut) New Zealand:R18
USA: NC-17 (original rating)
USA: R (edited for re-rating)

Vampmon

February 14th, 2005, 07:52 AM

Update:- 11th Feb 2005

Lots of info about Saw 2 has been flying around the net of late. It's been fun, but producer Gregg Hoffman wants to set the everything straight...

Some of this is new, some of it has been reported on, and some of it hinted at, but everything that follows concerning SAW 2 you can consider confirmed.

1) The title is just Saw 2, not "Saw 2: Hacksaw". (I was wrong)
Where the hell did this whole "Saw 2: Hacksaw" thing start? The script is just called SAW Period. Maybe that'll change down the road, but everyone needs to lose the "Hacksaw" part of it.

2) There are no issues with getting a script ready in time.
We've had a sequel script since about a week after SAW opened. It was a screenplay that was submitted to me as another potential movie idea for us to produce. After I pitched Oren Koules (one of the other Twisted Pictures partners) the idea, he said that could be Saw 2 with a few changes. It's turned into more than "a few" changes, but the only way we could ever hope to get the sequel into theaters 12 months after the original was to start with an existing script. James and Leigh are in Los Angeles now and are personally supervising the next draft of the script.

3) There IS a director and he WILL be announced soon.
- I think your spies may be closing in on his identity, but you'll get nothing more from me about this until I'm damn well good and ready!

4) PG-13? GET REAL!
- There is NO CHANCE IN HELL we would ever turn the franchise into a PG-13 wuss fest! Give us some damn credit here! Remember, we don't answer to any corporate body. I can guarantee there's going to be plenty of "kick" to the new film. We don't want to go through the same MPAA battle we had last time, but WE ARE NOT SELLING THIS FRANCHISE OUT (until at least Saw 4!)

5) The film will be shot in Canada.
- We'll be shooting this one in a large Canadian metropolis west of Montreal and East of Calgary.

So while rabid fan interest is a great thing for any franchise, let's all be glad Gregg's not only on top of what's getting out about the project, but also that he's willing to communicate with the fans so that stuff doesn't get out of control.

mikedoug

February 14th, 2005, 08:59 AM

I thought it was OK, not great, but it was the top rated horror of 2004 on imdb.
I much perfered Shaun of the Dead but that's really a different catagory.
BTW Saw was not banned in Australia it's MA which means restricted to >=15yrs, not even R.

Vampmon

February 14th, 2005, 10:10 AM

Well, the source i got it from said that ... i'll change it
As for shaun of the dead, that was a comedy horror...

cjules13

February 14th, 2005, 10:57 AM

I vote 2 thumbs way up for Saw 1.

Killer story, killer twist, and killer gore. As for the acting, well, average, but still the film as a whole was awesome.

I like balls to the wall horror tho, this movie was in the same vein as House of 100 Corpses, and Texas Chainsaw, both of which I really liked too... Richard Roeper summed it up well in his thumbs down review of the movie.... "This movie takes an almost pornographic approach to horror." Not that it has anything to do with porn....

Siskabush

February 14th, 2005, 11:06 AM

Saw was an excellent show. Very suspenseful and creepy. Kinda like phone booth type suspense.

I never seen the ending coming though.

Also, im skeptical about a sequel. It might ruin the original.

napho

February 14th, 2005, 11:18 AM

Who says FastTrack is dead? Even though the sequel hasn't been made yet there are already 62 different versions on Kazaa :;)

TwoLoud

February 14th, 2005, 01:00 PM

saw sucked...

Vampmon

June 11th, 2005, 04:58 AM

Bloody-Disgusting recently talked to James Wan about the upcoming horror flick Saw 2, hitting theaters this October.

"Let me cut to it, SAW2 is going to be NASTY! There are scenes in this one that makes me squirm just thinking about it. On the first film, we didn't have any budget to show you anything, so I had to hide it all with quick cuts...SAW2 is a different story. Darren has a bigger budget on this one to do it right. He's gonna have a better financial support than I did on the first one..."

More: http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/index.php?Show=3683&Template=newsfull

"We are really exploring the story of Jigsaw [Tobin Bell] so it's really his story. We all know that he is slowly dying of cancer so 'Saw 2' will have to be his final hurrah. I just got back from Toronto where they are shooting. They are all such good actors so seeing Donnie Wahlberg and Tobin Bell going at it is a thrill."

As for the amount of blood shed in the film, "The gore level follows the number one rule of sequels as laid down in 'Scream 2,' bigger, better and more. It is so violent and it makes 'Saw' look like a chin stroking psychological thriller with no scenes of blood or gore."

matrix2003

September 11th, 2005, 04:31 AM

Saw 2 trailer: http://www.apple.com/trailers/lions_gate/saw_2/
___________

I also think this is a joke:

"The MPAA has turned thumbs down on advertising materials featuring severed fingers that Lions Gate Films had distributed to Web sites to promote its upcoming horror film "Saw II." In an announcement released Friday, the MPAA said its Advertising Administration, which reviews all advertising and publicity materials submitted by producers and distributors for a film rating, had not approved the material. If it had, it would have found that "materials for the film 'Saw II' (that) display dismembered fingers ... is unacceptable under Advertising Administration standards."

matrix2003

September 11th, 2005, 04:39 AM

Better trailer: http://au.movies.yahoo.com/Saw+2/movie/13566/trailers/

Vampmon

October 20th, 2005, 01:28 PM

Since Saw 2 is to be released on October 28th, i decided to update all the information in this thread.

Official Trailer: www.apple.com/trailers/lions_gate/saw_2/
Official Site: www.saw2.com

What's it about?

While investigating the bloody aftermath of a grizzly murder, Detective Eric Mason (Donnie Wahlberg) has the feeling that it is the work of Jigsaw, the notorious killer who disappeared leaving a trail of bodies - and parts - behind. And Mason is right. Jigsaw is at work again. But instead of two people locked in a room with only one unthinkable way out, there are eight. Eight strangers - unaware of their connection to each other -- forced to play out a game that challenges their wits and puts their lives in jeopardy.

Watch the first three mins of Saw 2:

http://pranksnfiles.com/SawIIClip.avi

Krell

October 20th, 2005, 01:39 PM

They should film an Asian version

Saw 3: Ginsu

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d3ft0n3s

October 20th, 2005, 01:40 PM

i saw the first one and wsas damn dissappointed. the trailors made it look like it was gonna kick ass

Vampmon

October 20th, 2005, 01:50 PM

They should film an Asian version

Saw 3: Ginsu

.

ha! funny you talk about Saw 3.

www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showthread.php?p=380352#post380352

What does Ginsu mean?

Krell

October 20th, 2005, 01:59 PM

ha! funny you talk about Saw 3.

www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showthread.php?p=380352#post380352 (http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showthread.php?p=380352#post380352)

What does Ginsu mean?

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Krell

October 26th, 2005, 09:55 PM

New Clips From Saw 2!

Author: Robert Sanchez

Updated! Our friends form Lions Gate have provided the IESB with 4 clips from the upcoming horror (http://www.iesb.net/lionsgate/102605.php#) thriller (http://www.iesb.net/lionsgate/102605.php#) Saw II which opens on Friday the 28th. Plus they also provided some behind the scenes footage from the first scene of the film (http://www.iesb.net/lionsgate/102605.php#).

Behind the scenes footage from the first scene of the film

Click Here (http://www.iesb.net/videointerviews/saw2behind.php) Windows (14MB)

Click Here (http://www.iesb.net/videointerviews/saw2behindquick.php) Quicktime (14 MB)

Windows Media Player Required

Clip 1 (http://www.iesb.net/videointerviews/saw2clip1.php)

Clip 2 (http://www.iesb.net/videointerviews/saw2clip2.php)

Clip 3 (http://www.iesb.net/videointerviews/saw2clip3.php)

Clip 4 (http://www.iesb.net/videointerviews/saw2clip4.php)

Synopsis: While investigating the bloody aftermath of a grizzly murder, Detective Eric Mason (Donnie Wahlberg) has the feeling that it is the work of Jigsaw, the notorious killer who disappeared leaving a trail of bodies - and parts - behind.

And Mason is right.

Jigsaw is at work again. But instead of two people locked in a room with only one unthinkable way out, there are eight. Eight strangers – unaware of their connection to each other -- forced to play out a game that challenges their wits and puts their lives in jeopardy.

http://www.iesb.net/lionsgate/102605.php (http://www.iesb.net/lionsgate/102605.php)

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fleecy

October 27th, 2005, 06:12 AM

man, i can't wait to see that movie. cool clips.

Vampmon

October 27th, 2005, 02:29 PM

They got a 6 minute clip from the movie here

www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1512022/story.jhtml

Its out tomorrow!

jacem913

October 27th, 2005, 02:32 PM

i have a feeling that saw 2 is gonna be just as gay as the first saw!

Potato

October 27th, 2005, 02:39 PM

I hated Saw, but I'll still give this one a chance. There was a three minute clip up before, not sure if it's in Krell's posts or not, but I think the scene I saw was the opening scene.....

This time around I don't have any expectations, so there's nothing to disappoint me. Because of my lack of standards, I'll probably end up liking it, and hating myself.

Vampmon

October 27th, 2005, 02:58 PM

i have a feeling that saw 2 is gonna be just as gay as the first saw!

Gay? how can the first one be gay anyway?

Potato

October 27th, 2005, 02:58 PM

Happy!!!!!

Saw was definitely not happy....

Although, I was happy when it was over.

jacem913

October 27th, 2005, 03:39 PM

it was not my kind of movie i have to say, just another serial killer movie

Vampmon

October 27th, 2005, 03:46 PM

Im not really into "killing" movies, but i did enjoy watching Saw

fleecy

October 27th, 2005, 09:27 PM

call me sick and twisted, but i loved the first one and so far i like what i've seen of the 2nd.

Krell

October 27th, 2005, 09:54 PM

call me sick and twisted, but i loved the first one and so far i like what i've seen of the 2nd.

Youre sick and twisted

too bad your buried

i mean, married

.

Vampmon

October 28th, 2005, 03:35 AM

So the review is out

www.bbc.co.uk/films/2005/10/27/saw_2_2005_review.shtml

So, you going to see it today then fleecy?

fleecy

October 28th, 2005, 06:04 AM

wish i could. going out as a flower child from hell tonight :) but i will see it this weekend.

fleecy

October 28th, 2005, 06:07 AM

Youre sick and twisted

too bad your buried

i mean, married

.

eh, i don't imagine i hold a monopoly on being sick and twisted... do i bud?

Vampmon

October 29th, 2005, 06:46 AM

Went to see this last night, the whole concept of Saw was forgotten in this sequel, and as they say "Oh yes, there will be blood" well there was blood, lots of it. It wasn't as good as the first one, but it’s worth going to see.

Was funny in some places actually.

So thats my little lame review.

fleecy

October 29th, 2005, 07:43 AM

thanks vampmon. i'm going tomorrow night.

tackdaddy

October 29th, 2005, 08:01 AM

i'm going to see it tonight, i hope it's good.

Potato

October 30th, 2005, 12:40 PM

The timeline doesn't make sense to me....

Spoilers ahead, in white.

Okay, so Jigsaw is Amanda's mentor. The stuff on the monitors is pre-recorded, the feed is coming from a duplicate house. While the SWAT team is at this house feeling stupid or frustrated, Eric's at the real house finding dead bodies and finds the door that was under the safe, goes down the stairs and stumbles into that room that looks oh-so-familiar with rotting bodies and all. How cute. Amanda's hiding in the tub, jumps up and stabs Eric with some stuff, he is knocked out and is then attached to some pipe. He comes to, and sees her saying "Game Over" and slamming the door on him, locking him in forever. However, she also had to haul out the kid and shove him in that safe and leave it back at the old factory Jigsaw's found in, where the story begins. So the kid was there to begin with.... then the cops came in and found it all, the people were already dying or dead (how was the kid not dead yet?), and Amanda was just waiting in that house for Eric to come along. Right? Did I just explain it to myself?

edit: Another thought I had... also in white. :)

Unless Amanda moves the van, someone would find it eventually right? So someone would find the house?

Krell

October 30th, 2005, 12:49 PM

Youre so savvy

S E X Y

.

Vampmon

October 30th, 2005, 12:57 PM

For Potato .... in white.

They are out of the house and no longer breathing in that deadly gas ... i guess she must have given the boy the antidote and injected herself with some aswell ...

Mels_Smileys45

October 30th, 2005, 12:57 PM

I doubt I'll watch this for sometime. I liked the first one but I just don't feel any urge to see another version.

Zee19

October 31st, 2005, 04:00 AM

Watched it, was good, recommended abit gory

crackerjacker

October 31st, 2005, 07:22 AM

I didnt watch it yet
later on we will * ;)

TwoLoud

October 31st, 2005, 09:33 AM

I watched it, it was ok...

crackerjacker

October 31st, 2005, 12:04 PM

I watched it, it was ok...
nice avatar
it was just ok?
eh
i am going to watch it, i previewed it to be honest and i dunno i am getting the feeling that it will not be like the original saw.

Vampmon

October 31st, 2005, 12:52 PM

It isn't really like Saw. They don't exactly "Saw" anything off in Saw 2. ha ... if you get what i mean.
He saw'd his foot off in the first one.

Potato

October 31st, 2005, 01:02 PM

What about JigSAW?

Didn't this one have different people involved? Writer(s), director(s), etc? It definitely had a different feel though.

Vampmon

October 31st, 2005, 02:16 PM

What about JigSAW?

Didn't this one have different people involved? Writer(s), director(s), etc? It definitely had a different feel though.

Jigsaw as in the dolly thing is in it, but not much ... but that old man is "jigsaw" and he's in it for most of the movie.

You're right, it did have a different feel to it.

Potato

October 31st, 2005, 02:19 PM

That and the acting wasn't as hilariously awful as Saw. :D

Vampmon

October 31st, 2005, 02:23 PM

I liked Saw a lot better.

The guy at the end "I'll come back for youuuuuuuuu i wont leave youuuuuuuuu" that was funny!

Saw is a lot better then Saw 2.

Potato

October 31st, 2005, 02:29 PM

I really hated Saw, but that was mainly because I had high expectations for it, and the acting was SO TERRIBLE..... I was lauighing at parts when I was supposed to feel bad for them.

Someday I'll rent it and watch it again (my roommate hasnt seen it)... maybe my opinion will change.

tackdaddy

October 31st, 2005, 02:38 PM

it was a decent flick with a nice little twist at the end but it was'nt like "omg that was so awsome" but it was worth the price of admission.

davec8

October 31st, 2005, 03:09 PM

Potato

October 31st, 2005, 03:24 PM

Potato,
You actually went into a Cary Elwes movie with high expectations?
Have you ever seen any of his work?
Next you're gonna say you can't wait for Carrot Top's next movie.

LOL!
I'm just givin' you a hard time. I rewatched Saw yesterday for the first time since last Holloween to refamiliarize myself with it before watching Saw II last night. I think the 2nd one's better, acting and plot wise.
There was a LOT of hype last year for Saw... It was supposed to come out at the end of August, and just kept getting pushed back.... That is never a good sign (when a movie gets pushed back a bunch). Every scene Cary Elwes was in, I just kept thinking of him in Liar, Liar. I had no expectations for him, but really.... it was pretttttty bad.

I agree tha the acting was better in the second one. At least this time I wasn't laughing at their misery the whole time.....

By the way,
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Vampmon

November 1st, 2005, 03:59 AM

The way you lot are acting is like its one of the worst movies ever to be released.

I think Saw was an above-average horror flick, the twist at the end was great ...

Saw 2 i was dissapointed at because i liked the first one and expected the second to be just as good, but wasn't for me atleast.

LGF say 49.9% of the people they asked liked Saw 2 better then Saw.

fleecy

November 1st, 2005, 04:11 AM

was supposed to go see this sun. nite, but was too bushed. we're going thur. nite, so i didn't read any of the spoilers. sounds like it must get a little weird.

Potato

November 1st, 2005, 06:46 AM

Saw 2 didn't seem as f*cked up as Saw.

Maybe because the concept isn't new on us anymore?

fleecy

November 1st, 2005, 07:29 AM

yeah, you have an idea of what to expect.

Vampmon

November 1st, 2005, 07:29 AM

I liked the way Saw started and ended. i didn't like the end of Saw 2. But Saw & Saw 2 were good.

You just know that Saw 3 will be shit if they make a 3rd ... wont say why to spoil it for anyone.

fleecy

November 1st, 2005, 07:31 AM

thanks vampmon. hope to find out for myself soon enough.

Potato

November 1st, 2005, 10:13 AM

I liked the way Saw started and ended. i didn't like the end of Saw 2. But Saw & Saw 2 were good.

You just know that Saw 3 will be shit if they make a 3rd ... wont say why to spoil it for anyone.
In white...

I read that the good doc might make a comeback, as he could have been the one implanting the key in that one guy's head (he had a limp).

Vampmon

November 1st, 2005, 10:32 AM

In white...

I read that the good doc might make a comeback, as he could have been the one implanting the key in that one guy's head (he had a limp).

In white

Who is the good doc that you're talking about, i don't remember?

The reason why i said Saw 3 would be shit was because ...

In white:

that woman at the end who says "Game Over" and when she talks in the recorder thing, it just sounds shit and doesn't give it that feeling ...