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cuplatnum
January 8th, 2005, 07:28 PM
January 7, 2005: 6:35 PM EST
By Krysten Crawford, CNN/Money staff writer
NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Shortly after Hollywood launched a major offensive against Internet pirates last month, two popular Web sites for stealing movies shut down.

But no sooner had Suprnova.org and Bittorrent.org pulled the plug then copycat sites appeared in their place. What's more, BitTorrent, the technology targeted in the movie industry crackdown, appears to be as popular as ever.

BitTorrent remains the most common "peer-to-peer" technology used by Internet users looking to swap files, both legal and illegal, according to CacheLogic, a British company that monitors peer-to-peer traffic. CacheLogic estimates that just over half of all Internet file-sharing uses BitTorrent software.

In general there has been very little reduction in the levels of BitTorrent traffic across the globe," said Andrew Parker, the company's founder and chief technology officer. "As many of the (BitTorrent) sites...were being shut down, new ones sprung up."

Parker said he was surprised that BitTorrent usage has not noticeably declined. He noted that when the music industry launched its counteroffensive against Internet pirates by suing users of Kazaa, then the No. 1 peer-to-peer service, file-swappers quickly shifted to newer technologies, including BitTorrent and another one called eDonkey.

The massive shift away from Kazaa took about two months, said Parker.

But with BitTorrent, a similar exodus isn't happening -- at least not yet. And that speaks both to the wiliness of the BitTorrent technology and the big obstacles that Hollywood faces as it tries to avoid a crisis similar to the one that struck the music industry when Napster set off what amounted to a massive online looting of songs.

BitTorrent, a different kind of threat
"I'm not in any way surprised" that BitTorrent continues to thrive, said Eric Garland, the CEO of BigChampagne, a peer-to-peer research firm. He notes that BitTorrent is a different technology than traditional peer-to-peer software like Kazaa and Morpheus.

Instead of acting as a central repository that connects users who want to share music or other files, BitTorrent is essentially homeless.

It's simply a technology that makes downloading easier and faster. While BitTorrent is good at swapping data between computers, explains Parker, users have to find the files they want themselves. That's what led to Suprnova.org and other sites set up specifically to tell users what BitTorrent files are available and where to find them.

The sites, which essentially act as conduits between downloaders and BitTorrent files, were the primary target of last month's campaign, in which the Motion Picture Association of America filed 100 lawsuits against BitTorrent and other index sites around the world.

"The reason BitTorrent will be persistent and will continue to be disruptive or troubling is that the MPAA went after some of the most-trafficked Web sites that essentially point users to these files, but that doesn't impact the technology at all," said Garland. "What happen is mirror sites pop up, in some cases within minutes."

Betamax
January 8th, 2005, 07:34 PM
Neverheard of bittorrent.org, maybe they meant to say torrentbits?

tackdaddy
January 8th, 2005, 09:11 PM
i hate to sat it but sometime in the near future the goverment will outlaw p2p and make it a crime.

MrCoggy
January 14th, 2005, 03:19 AM
i hate to sat it but sometime in the near future the goverment will outlaw p2p and make it a crime.

No..they won't.

No more than they have banned video recorders, CD recorders, DVD recorders. P2P has a fair use and to try and impose a worldwide ban on it would be impossible and illegal.

RACKnRAIL
January 14th, 2005, 07:09 AM
No..they won't.

No more than they have banned video recorders, CD recorders, DVD recorders. P2P has a fair use and to try and impose a worldwide ban on it would be impossible and illegal.

I tend to agree. The authorities cannot outlaw something that isn't breaking any laws. Like p2p file sharing. It is the sharing of copyrighted material that they would like to put an end to and forever, but we'll see.

Mels_Smileys45
February 12th, 2005, 12:31 PM
I wonder how popular it is today? I would like to see what CacheLogic has to say. I bet the internet just got a whole lot faster in some areas

notbob
February 12th, 2005, 12:55 PM
I wonder how popular it is today? I would like to see what CacheLogic has to say. I bet the internet just got a whole lot faster in some areas

nope

we're talking about mostly teens and 20s here, and everyone knows bad stuff happens to someone else

the bandwidh users of bt aren't going to give up, a few noobs might be scared off

kazaa lost a lot of users when all the 30+ year old lamers got scared and took off, but people who know what they are doing (or think they do) won't be scared away so easily

c411Z
February 12th, 2005, 01:59 PM
mr. coggy heard of patriot act II ? well we dont have those freedoms protections or any constitutional rights any longer and our way of life has been hijacked by lifelessness

and we are life. communicate empathize my statagies and sugest voluntary deprivlaging or mass lemming style euthenasia death.

notbob
February 12th, 2005, 02:24 PM
mr. coggy heard of patriot act II ? well we dont have those freedoms protections or any constitutional rights any longer and our way of life has been hijacked by lifelessness



and how do you propose to fix it? sentence fragments and flowery words?

you've got no ammo if you are trying to use your mind as a weapon

mfgbypooter
February 12th, 2005, 03:00 PM
mr. coggy heard of patriot act II ? well we dont have those freedoms protections or any constitutional rights any longer and our way of life has been hijacked by lifelessnessForget the patriot acts, that's all just a smoke screen. You've never had any "constitutional rights" to begin with.
Believing you've ever had "constitutional rights" is all just a wet dream in which when you finally wake up you'll find yourself dry.

LMAO@notbob "you've got no ammo if you are trying to use your mind as a weapon"

.

msalvarez
February 12th, 2005, 03:39 PM
They will never outlaw P2P. So many companies and legal entities use it to transfer information that it would be impossible for them to do so. The most the can do is to tax the use of the net. In fact, RIAA and MPAA can lobby for a tax so they can recover losses from piracy. Kinda like the tax canada has on CDR's

the great one
February 12th, 2005, 07:44 PM
and how do you propose to fix it? sentence fragments and flowery words?

you've got no ammo if you are trying to use your mind as a weapon

Darn,you took my line Notbob!LOL!

shawners
February 12th, 2005, 08:13 PM
We rob the people who robbed us after all these years.. Its justice. How many times we pay money out for something and not being able to get a refund if its crappy product.

infringer
February 13th, 2005, 01:10 PM
No..they won't.

No more than they have banned video recorders, CD recorders, DVD recorders. P2P has a fair use and to try and impose a worldwide ban on it would be impossible and illegal.
They are trying to do this in the background but they will fail miserably and even if they did make it work someone would simply sell hard drive based players... And then there back at square 1 really because to outlaw hard drives would simply make computers unusuable.

I dont forsee them passing any laws because of the vast usage of media to store and record legit content and back it up using these things. They will fail and fail miserably.

-infringer-

infringer
March 16th, 2005, 03:23 PM
and how do you propose to fix it? sentence fragments and flowery words?

you've got no ammo if you are trying to use your mind as a weapon
Hrmmm you would be up a creek without a paddle as well...

-infringer-

c411Z
March 16th, 2005, 03:44 PM
no dirrect action

connecting doable requests to people with the power to share and deprivlage

aka p2p 0day etc

martinmine
March 4th, 2007, 04:51 AM
Site Location Country
www.torrentspy.com Amsterdam Netherland
www.torrentportal.com Amsterdam Netherland
thepiratebay.org Stockholm Sweeden
www.bittorrent.org San Francisco U.S
www.torrentz.com Amsterdam Netherland
mininova.org Amsterdam Netherland
snarf-it.org Stockholm Sweeden
mybittorrent.com Amsterdam Nederland
btmon.com Nürnberg Tyskland

www.torrentreactor.net Santa Clarita U.S
btjunkie.org Amsterdam Netherland
www.torrent.to Eindhoven Netherland
www.torrentreactor.to Eindhoven Netherland

www.softlinkers.org Moskva Russia

isohunt.com Norh York Canada

This information is too easy to find. Just enter a bit-torrent site in Neo Trace, then you got it.

meyou123
March 4th, 2007, 01:41 PM
Site Location Country
www.torrentspy.com Amsterdam Netherland
www.torrentportal.com Amsterdam Netherland
thepiratebay.org Stockholm Sweeden
www.bittorrent.org San Francisco U.S
www.torrentz.com Amsterdam Netherland
mininova.org Amsterdam Netherland
snarf-it.org Stockholm Sweeden
mybittorrent.com Amsterdam Nederland
btmon.com Nürnberg Tyskland

www.torrentreactor.net Santa Clarita U.S
btjunkie.org Amsterdam Netherland
www.torrent.to Eindhoven Netherland
www.torrentreactor.to Eindhoven Netherland

www.softlinkers.org Moskva Russia

isohunt.com Norh York Canada

This information is too easy to find. Just enter a bit-torrent site in Neo Trace, then you got it.



I guess you never took the time to look at how OLD the original post is???

LAST POST BEFORE YOURS.....

March 16th, 2005, 10:44 PM

negatyve
March 8th, 2007, 08:06 AM
Ah, here's some nostalgia...lol...

Loki Torrent Nears Initial Goal
January 3, 2005
Thomas Mennecke, slyck.com


As many already know, the MPAA and its international team of cronies have been widely successful in knocking out many of the largest BitTorrent and eDonkey2000 indexing sites. While SuprNova folded, some decided to dig in and fight the good fight. Such is the case with Loki Torrents.

During the reigning days of SuprNova, Loki Torrent, a BitTorrent tracker, played an important yet lower key role in the BitTorrent community. While not as large as SuprNova, Loki Torrent assumed a critical role in maintaining the BitTorrent network. Those looking to avoid that bottle necks usually associated with SuprNova typically found Loki Torrents to be more than adequate in meeting their Torrent needs.

Since the demise of many Torrent sites, Loki Torrent has witnessed its usage increase dramatically. Like many other BitTorrent sites, Loki Torrent was issued a Cease and Desist letter from the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA.) This warning letter is typically enough for most sites to close down, however Loki Torrent held on. On December 14, 2004, Loki Torrent was officially notified by the MPAA that a lawsuit was filed in the United States District Court in the Northern District of Texas. Because the MPAA does not know the identities of the tracker owners, the suit was filed as "[John] Does 1-10."

In response to the lawsuit, Loki Torrent did the unexpected. Instead of closing down, Loki Torrents decided to raise the necessary funds to counter the MPAA's lawsuit. Considering the copyright industry's tactics are to simply wear down any opponent, Loki Torrent is looking at a minimum of $30,000.00 a month to stand against the MPAA. While raising $30,000.00 a month may seem like a daunting task, especially for a lesser known website, the feat is well within their grasp.

Today, Loki Torrent is no longer the lesser-known BitTorrent website. The current MPAA campaign, and its decision to fight back, has thrust this site into the BitTorrent spotlight. Within two weeks (5 days public) of announcing their fund raising campaign, Loki Torrents is only $710.00 dollars away from reaching their initial goal. At the time of this writing, Loki Torrent has raised an impressive $29,290.00.

As Loki Torrent has pointed out, this is only their initial goal. Legal fees, especially against a behemoth like the MPAA, can and will be extraordinary. Considering there has been no decision or interpretation regarding the legality of hash links or torrents links, the potential for a pro P2P ruling is very real. You can find more information regarding this issue on Loki Torrent's homepage.