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TheBlackSnow
January 8th, 2005, 12:40 PM
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The Hunter
January 8th, 2005, 12:46 PM
You have it totally backwards, as having many different ones permit some to be different, and specialize in certain types of files. Also having many smaller programs make them less of a target for the RIAA, and hence make the users safer from prosecution. Notice I said safer, not safe.

hawkburn
January 8th, 2005, 01:38 PM
The good P2P networks (notice I say network and not clients.. there may be a dozen or more clients per network - like BitTorrent.)

* BitTorrent
* ED2K/Overnet
* DirectConenct
* Ares/Warez
* Gnutella
* FastTrack (in terms of users, not quality)
* MP2P/piolet/blubster

Again, many of these may have a few clients for the network. So overall, we have around 7 good networks that you may find your choice of files on, spreading the joy everywhere.

Where you get the bulk of the p2p programs and networks are those that are under-appreciated (like Freenet, for instance) and those that don't even exist and are over-publicised.

meyou123
January 8th, 2005, 03:31 PM
Well as was stated, more choices is probably better. The files may be a little more scattered, but that also makes it more scattered for groups like the RIAA and MPAA to track. So it can work to a certian advantage on the side of file sharers if you look at it that way. To have all the files in a single program....even a decentralized one, would be a clear target. They would take it down eventually.

meyou123
January 8th, 2005, 03:35 PM
The good P2P networks (notice I say network and not clients.. there may be a dozen or more clients per network - like BitTorrent.)

* BitTorrent
* ED2K/Overnet
* DirectConenct
* Ares/Warez
* Gnutella
* FastTrack (in terms of users, not quality)
* MP2P/piolet/blubster

Again, many of these may have a few clients for the network. So overall, we have around 7 good networks that you may find your choice of files on, spreading the joy everywhere.

Where you get the bulk of the p2p programs and networks are those that are under-appreciated (like Freenet, for instance) and those that don't even exist and are over-publicised.


Of course there are the "grandaddys" of all filesharing networks.....newsgroups, IRC and ftp sites. They are not really considered "p2p" sites, but they are there just the same. And those networks have been around long before p2p even existed.

mcovey
January 8th, 2005, 05:04 PM
I wish more people would use Gnutella, it's really good and ultimate decentralized. Would the RIAA start suing those who were supernodes or w/e?

I don't think they could, especially if it were an automatic feature of the client, to becomeone, people could claim ignorance or something. It's really good being so decentralized.

fireforce555
January 8th, 2005, 05:16 PM
If they were to target gnutella they would likely do what they do now, find the "main sharers" and target them if they could.


I thought about the 1 or 2 p2p thing myself, mainly when I couldnt find something on kazaa,ares, or whatever. It might be good and fun for a little while but think of when all the fakes would flood in(ie when the kazaa users join LOL), and with only one target the MPAA,RIAA and all their little friends like baytsp and the like would attack like armageddon. It would be anarchy.


Its a good thing we have so many types and brands of p2p. All of the less apt users tend to flood into the easier netoworks like kazaa while the more experienced user tend to user faster more dependable systems(IRC, newsgroups). Its harder to find someone when they might be in one of 25 buildings than it would be to have only one building to search.

ducttapeBigSexy
January 8th, 2005, 05:22 PM
Yep, I have to agree - having a bunch of p2p systems (both in programs and networks) is a good thing.

If you don't believe me, look at the browser market. Before Firefox came along (and even still), most people use Internet Explorer. Sure, it means everything works with it, but, as a result, it's on the recieving end of all spyware, adware, viruses, and security flaws (but, that's another story :) ).

Long story short - like life, having deversity is a good thing. With deversity in a species, one strand of bacteria can't take down the entire species - and having multiple networks means the RIAA can't simply pull the plug easily

tackdaddy
January 8th, 2005, 07:21 PM
i agree with ducttapeBigSexy,deversity in programs is very important to try to keep filesharing alive.

Shawstar
January 9th, 2005, 08:30 AM
Of course there are the "grandaddys" of all filesharing networks.....newsgroups, IRC and ftp sites. They are not really considered "p2p" sites, but they are there just the same. And those networks have been around long before p2p even existed.
yep like www.winmx.com

it just rules all,.. well thats what I think.

MushroomheadXIII
January 9th, 2005, 08:42 AM
I agree with the Hunter. All these networks are good for several different files and they all compete for the top - it can get annoying with new ones popping up every second.

the great one
January 13th, 2005, 03:25 PM
I say it's better to have too many choices than not enough.
So no, we don't have too many p2p systems! :tilted

infringer
January 13th, 2005, 07:51 PM
Hell I say the more the merrier bring it on you can never have enough clients or networks for p2p you just gotta do your studying you can find the files if you want the files.

-infringer-

Vhex
January 14th, 2005, 04:40 PM
Only thing on all of those... RIAA/MPAA CAN track traffic except for on Bit Torrent.. but they are just sueing the tracker servers... which in a sense they can/do monitor...