View Full Version : Rise Exeem
View Full Version : Rise Exeem
moneoa
December 30th, 2004, 08:40 PM
I feel this program will open new ideas but I was suprised to see just how much hype this product was. I cant help but admit I was one of the people who held this prog in high regard. This is going to revolutionize p2p but just the ideas presented not the client itself.
The poll today kids, Exeem, lame duck program? or the next suprnova? (now that we know Sloncek is just a PR rep for the company) Feel free to also discuss the merits you can see and the flaws. No flaming folks and lets discuss!
I think the merits of a uncentralized BT based network with BTs unique hashing a good Idea
as is the introduction of a search type function
joey tribiani
December 30th, 2004, 08:49 PM
I'll Believe when i see.
hawkburn
December 30th, 2004, 08:51 PM
I'll like it once the "lite" version is released. And I have been informed by a souce (wont name him unless he tells me its ok) that currently the beta links the serial code for the beta to the ip address recorded by suprnovaforums.net ... which, if included in any part in the final release, I will be staying away from.
But, the idea is an incredible one, I'll give them that.
mp3MaStA88
December 30th, 2004, 08:56 PM
i tried out the beta and it is alright the layout is nice, but it is almost exactly like torrentopia in my mind. But i will have to see it when exeem is released to the public because i didn't have a serial code to test the beta with.
serrebi101
December 30th, 2004, 09:29 PM
I tried it, when I first got it I had a serial that worked. It's all hype, that's all I'm saying. It is very dependant on the users staying online, as each user is a tracker for the released contant, and in the versions I triedv0.1-0.15, there is no fake deprevention scheme, so ultimately it will fail.
Here come the flames.
:P
Pirate_RRRRRR_IIIIII
December 30th, 2004, 10:05 PM
From what I've read I'll be sticking to torrent sites for awhile still
SanDiegoKid
December 31st, 2004, 01:45 AM
I'll probably be staying away from this bleeding edge.
If it turns out to be the most totally sweet super awesome app arround... I'll check it out.
Malicious Intent
December 31st, 2004, 02:41 AM
Wow - it is actually 50/50.
Nothing with Cydoor adware would get my vote.
Comparing eXeem to SuprNova is like comparing Napster to Napster2.
This program is:
Decentralised, like kazaa
Filled with adware including Cydoor, like kazaa
Is run by a for profit company, like kazaa
Relies on a brandname in order to screw as many unsuspecting newbies as possible, like kazaa
Has nothing to do with torrents, like kazaa
Uploads while you download, like BitTorrent.
pffft. I'm going to ignore this program until the newbies start rolling in asking us how to clean up their systems.
EDIT: I know it isn't really as bad as Kazaa, I was just making a point ;)
mxpwx
December 31st, 2004, 04:31 AM
What hawk said is true it sends ur ip to the central server and records it. there will be an exeem light version no less than a week after the release of the public release. it will be done by the same guys who did the kazaa lite project after it got shut down so it will be top notch. it appears to also not be decentralized as at start up it connects to server to retrieve a nodes list, so basicly all the riaa would have to do is knock the nodes server offline and good bye exeem. the betas are very buggy and i sure hope they fix some of the bugs before they plug the adware in. I'm told that they will use the same .dlll file that kazaa uses to execute cydorr making it useless if you use adaware to clean it. i use proxies and stuff so the ip thing is no big deal hope this info helps and i will keep you all abreast of exeem light.
Cydor
December 31st, 2004, 06:30 AM
Wow - it is actually 50/50.
Nothing with Cydoor adware would get my vote.;)
I was disappointed with their decision to includ Cydoor in Exeem.....That's NO...NO..a big NO for me....Sorry, cant have a dangerous Spyware in my computer.
Hopefully some one will make a lite version of it.
a3ro3
December 31st, 2004, 06:31 AM
Of course it is not 100% decentralized. You need some sort of host cache otherwise you'll never connect. The same with Kazaa, Gnutella, Blubster/Piolet... And if the cache that's stored on your harddrive become outdated you need the central servers once again to update. I'm surprised the RIAA/MPAA doesn't DoS the caches to major P2P networks.
Also it'll become a haven for fake and renamed files unless there's some sort of trusted documented source to verify hashes. Hashes by themselves tell you jacksh!t. Then if it does become popular the MPAA will start suing end users and littering it with more fakes of their own.
RACKnRAIL
December 31st, 2004, 06:43 AM
I visit these forums for this very reason...to stay informed. I was stupid enough to try out ES5 once, but it was only for experimentation, purely, since I planned on formatting my HD the next day. I was curious as to all the hype. I had no idea as to the sinister code within, until later, but the gui was enough to make me hurl anyways.
Bottom line is when I start hearing hype tactics used to promote a new, better than ever p2p app, I get reeeeally suspicious. I go with what works and wait till the bugs are worked out of what doesn't.
emohXc
December 31st, 2004, 08:33 AM
perhaps i'm not understanding something...
is exeem supposed to share whole files or is it supposed to share just .torrents? wouldnt the best thing that can happen to bittorrent right now be a decentralized program that shares only .torrents? a program like this would have a much larger userbase than any particular website and torrent information(such as ratings and seeder/leecher stats) could be recieved from the tracker on request. each torrent can be downloaded and brought over to the users favorite client. something like this could completely alleviate the need for torrent sites altogether. is this what exeem is supposed to do? is anyone clear on how exeem really works?
nukehella
December 31st, 2004, 09:27 AM
Why are there 2 duplicate threads?
Christoph
December 31st, 2004, 09:27 AM
DOWNLOAD OF ExEEM:REMOVED BECAUSE I DON'T WANT MY FAVORITE SITE BEEING SUED-_- PM me and I could help you ;)
here some keys from a beta site I found:
Quote:
key1
key
if both do not work you have a new build of 0.16
I will host my build soon!
followingkeys worked for a freind of me:
/end
the 3rd one worked for me...at least I think!*lol
my tought is that it don't has any great improvements over an other p2p app(I don't see one)!anyone knows if it is hiding your ip?
nukehella
December 31st, 2004, 09:28 AM
Wow I posted on the other duplicate thread and it appeared in this one.I am so easily amused.
moneoa
December 31st, 2004, 09:40 AM
Christoph REMOVE THAT PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Exeem is owned by a corporation and is not publicly released we can get sued my friend
moneoa
December 31st, 2004, 09:45 AM
Why are there 2 duplicate threads?
The poll was moved to the new exeem section, lol i assume it got a split personality
Christoph
December 31st, 2004, 10:37 AM
@moneoa:
hmmm :/
ok..I remove the link
moneoa
December 31st, 2004, 10:39 AM
@moneoa:
hmmm :/
ok..I remove the link
Thanks man, Rainbow demon is looking it up but I am thinking that as sharman has lawyers so does exeem. If its ok then I will update and then its cool but lets be sure first
Christoph
December 31st, 2004, 10:40 AM
no problem friend!
hawkburn
December 31st, 2004, 10:58 AM
It's ironic though that we're scared of scrutiny from a p2p company, a company that makes all of its money off it's users piracy. Very ironic. But, yes, thanks Christoph, it's better to be on the safe side.
Mels_Smileys45
December 31st, 2004, 11:59 AM
http://www.nikush.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=549&Itemid=45
Rajarius
December 31st, 2004, 12:31 PM
Fake files can be easily avoided. Just stick to scene releases, cf. NFOrce.
Captinspliff
December 31st, 2004, 06:18 PM
This will be a bag of shit. All its doing is getting publicity off the Suprnova name and its gonna be filled with all of Suprnova's retarded userbase.
black_magiic
January 1st, 2005, 12:02 AM
Captispliff, your avatar ROCKS. Sorry I had to say it I love it
DeadMan
January 1st, 2005, 05:10 PM
The problem with even having a torrent P2P app is that it could contain fakes. The whole point of centralised sites was that the torrents are checked before being posted on the main page. I think that's the whole idea of comments on files. So the users verify it and OK it (In eXeem there is an OK vote option etc when you select a file. If it gets lots of OK's then it's verified. One can only hope that that is not open to abuse by P2P enemies. If I was a P2P enemy though I'd simply vote it as OK from lots of different IP addresses running the app).
Brycen257
January 2nd, 2005, 03:56 PM
There is obviously mixed opinions on what members have seen of Exeem so far and many members like myself who really don't have much information on the program so far but will wait and see what happens. If it does contain adware however, I expect I will simply stick with BitComet . There is simply no good reason to put that crap on my computer :fire
Rajarius
January 2nd, 2005, 09:42 PM
The problem with even having a torrent P2P app is that it could contain fakes. The whole point of centralised sites was that the torrents are checked before being posted on the main page. cf http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=25547
Mels_Smileys45
January 11th, 2005, 01:44 PM
Its fucked up that an app thats not even public yet gets its own forum. A piece of crap with adware that may not even be released any time soon getting its own section doesn't make any sense. With the people making the app lying about details and putting adware into their shit, it won't take long before the smart P2P users reject it and leave it for the Kazaa lovers.
The beta testers don't even want to run this clunker, just wait till it has to run the adware too. I'm starting to doubt this thing will get off the ground at all. They are asking the testers to run the program when they are not uploading/downloading anything because some people are having trouble connecting. In the real world most people aren't going to run a client when they are not using it. Whats the use of a beta test if they are not going to address the problems. Stop trying to fuck BT up with this POS app and open back up the leech haven that was suprnova.
moneoa
January 13th, 2005, 01:30 PM
Its fucked up that an app thats not even public yet gets its own forum. A piece of crap with adware that may not even be released any time soon getting its own section doesn't make any sense. With the people making the app lying about details and putting adware into their shit, it won't take long before the smart P2P users reject it and leave it for the Kazaa lovers.
The beta testers don't even want to run this clunker, just wait till it has to run the adware too. I'm starting to doubt this thing will get off the ground at all. They are asking the testers to run the program when they are not uploading/downloading anything because some people are having trouble connecting. In the real world most people aren't going to run a client when they are not using it. Whats the use of a beta test if they are not going to address the problems. Stop trying to fuck BT up with this POS app and open back up the leech haven that was suprnova.
I think the program will be redeemed when respectable proggramers get ahold of it and tweak it up and ditch the spyware. I think there is more to eXeem than initial impressions.
Time will tell.
Wolfie
January 15th, 2005, 08:50 AM
Wow - it is actually 50/50.
Nothing with Cydoor adware would get my vote.
Comparing eXeem to SuprNova is like comparing Napster to Napster2.
This program is:
Decentralised, like kazaa
Filled with adware including Cydoor, like kazaa
Is run by a for profit company, like kazaa
Relies on a brandname in order to screw as many unsuspecting newbies as possible, like kazaa
Has nothing to do with torrents, like kazaa
Uploads while you download, like BitTorrent.
pffft. I'm going to ignore this program until the newbies start rolling in asking us how to clean up their systems.
EDIT: I know it isn't really as bad as Kazaa, I was just making a point ;)
Nicely said. :)
aharding
January 22nd, 2005, 02:59 PM
It's shit.
Why didn't they keep Suprnova ffs?
www.bi-torrent.com - I still use that.
c411Z
January 31st, 2005, 12:35 AM
jahaha
haters it works great and is unstopable who cares what is your personal opinion others do u se it and love it. cuase its the best biggest thing
exeem://24/fa27809f0435b8550e1c986d411a40f64c203b6f/Clean eXeem v0.20.exe
the great one
January 31st, 2005, 12:49 AM
I'll wait a little while before I try it!
Mels_Smileys45
January 31st, 2005, 01:07 AM
Recomended by idiots everywhere. Please, do you have to post this same dumb shit in every thread? I don't think anyone will download that shite
c411Z
February 1st, 2005, 01:17 PM
you've said it all
" I don't think"
i see thinking with out feeling in relation to universal intrinsic needs as problematic. especialy when you presume it as assumption grandgure of/for others than your own person,
common you can admit you secretly downloaded it ;-) , closet eXeem user /. zp troll with 2,264 posts in the language of agro w/ vanity pic?
aka peer -hater ;)
as a result of over winmx use and excesive online gaming time loss fustration?
uselesscrap
February 1st, 2005, 03:30 PM
" I don't think"
I do think ur an idiot!
Wolfie
February 1st, 2005, 06:35 PM
This thread is going downhill.
shawners
February 1st, 2005, 07:32 PM
Use it if you want, but it's gonna take alot of users to get on there and make something of it then a leeching network.
uselesscrap
February 1st, 2005, 07:38 PM
This thread is going downhill.
Now why would you go and say that?
Mels_Smileys45
February 1st, 2005, 07:39 PM
If people trust you, let them install anything they wish. I just think some people are smaterer than that.
ourthing2
February 1st, 2005, 07:49 PM
Use it if you want, but it's gonna take alot of users to get on there and make something of it then a leeching network.
you know it's the only p2p app i've ever seen that downloads to a "My Not Shared Folder"
c411Z
February 1st, 2005, 08:31 PM
"prefered ratio" too! that way you can make people share more than leech for stuff you seed so they dont just get and take off with out sharing much back . this is probly a feature that exeem has becuase it has a built in tracker tech in it.
but who isnt a leecher :) i say we are all its just we all are going a differnt speeds depending on many factors.