Could shutdown of sites cause slowed d/l rates?

[rdallen21]

This may be a very dumb question, but here goes....

I downloaded several .torrent files from sites such as isohunt.com that pointed to the original file as being from suprnova or torrentbits. According to the isohunt stats, there were several hundred seeders and over 1,000 peers. When I tried downloading the files through Azureus, I could barely get over 3kB/s (sometimes about 15kB/s in short bursts) and some of the files showed no seeds and 1 or 2 peers (contrary to what was shown on the isohunt site). Before these sites started shutting down, I was getting literally around 175kB/s.

Do the trackers for these files get shut down when the sites the files originate from get shut down? If so, does that render the .torrent files I already downloaded useless? I hope I'm making sense here...

Any info would be appreciated.

[rainbowdemon]

Been wondering that myself. Lately my bt speeds have been pretty sucko too.

[rebirth]

mine have been maxing my connection still, not noticeably slower, only was when I was configuring my routers still...I hate switching ISPs.

[hawkburn]

Well if the torrents you are getting were used to being exposed on SuprNova and the likes that were shut down, it is a great chance that much of the traffic was taken away, even if it's still shown on a smaller site. SuprNova had started to become the 'kazaa users' migration site and once it was taken down, everyone went into a scramble again I guess heh.

I'd give it another month until the next true players in the torrent industry show themselves. I'm betting on torrentspy, and I would think elitetorrents is the next torrentbits.

[TheGateKeeper]

I just DLed something from ISO Hunt and and the DL was fine for me, I was getting 50KB/s+. The file DLed in about an hour.
As far as slower DL speeds, it hasn't seemed to affect me, my speeds have always been determined by how many seeder/leechers I can connect to. I mean my avg. DL speed on most of my torrents are between 50-400KB/s
So as far as Im concerned the supernova shutdown hasn't really affected me much. Im good!

[talkinghand]

this is how i see it:>

there is no direct reason that the shutdown of sites would affect your DL speed, but
i would bet there is a possibility that for some indirect reason, it would affect you in some way. now that way is prolly small but hey.

[cjules13]

My BT speeds have remained unaffected - same as always.... great!

[Malicious Intent]

At first I thought that it must be because of the sites closing down. But it has since carried on. I thought that it must be me, but clearly not.

Torrents are nearly always yellow and I seem to struggle to connect to anyone at all. Strange.

[cuplatnum]

well the fact that sites shutting down should not directly effect your speed if the site got shutdown and they were running a tracker then yes the tracker would go down as well. THE reason you can't seem to connect to alot of torrents is now that alot of trackers have been taken down the torrent search engines have not taken them off there indexes yet. with people looking for new alternatives the trackers that are still up are overloaded with new traffic. just give it a few more weeks i have already started to see things already improve

[Malicious Intent]

It is the people that I struggle to connect to, rather than the trackers.

[freeloader767]

It is the people that I struggle to connect to, rather than the trackers.

In my continous hunt for proxies I found out that England has Comcast as an isp is this correct? If so theres your problem MI!

[Malicious Intent]

I believe NTL purchased Comcast UK from Comcast. I use Tesco.net, which is operated by NTL.

I can't find Comcast as an ISP in England. The Comcast website says that the run some internet shopping services here, but nothing else.

What is really strange is that non-copyright files are green, but it still has problems connecting. That must be coincidence.

[notbob]

less link sites means less users

less users means less bandwidth

less bandwidth means less speed

the end

[Malicious Intent]

I'm connected to 78 other users (11 seeds). Not a single one is a remote connection. It has been the same since SuprNova went down. I have had a tvtorrent.tv torrent go green and so have the Azureus updates. Oh - and a video of the Tsunami.

Films, computer games and software have all failed to turn green. This isn't about user numbers.

I dont really believe that my failure to get remote connections is connected to SuprNova going down, but it is strange that rdallen21 has noticed the same.

[notbob]

I'm connected to 78 other users (11 seeds). Not a single one is a remote connection. It has been the same since SuprNova went down. I have had a tvtorrent.tv torrent go green and so have the Azureus updates. Oh - and a video of the Tsunami.

Films, computer games and software have all failed to turn green. This isn't about user numbers.

I dont really believe that my failure to get remote connections is connected to SuprNova going down, but it is strange that rdallen21 has noticed the same.


then maybe your isp is throttling you--who knows?

it's hard to tell without being at your house looking over your shoulder

but without link sites, bt is in big trouble regardless

[Malicious Intent]

I have no idea Notbob.

Hopefully I will get it sussed. I know what you mean about the shoulder thing. You should see some of the e-mails I get asking for more help on my BT guides thread. I feel like saying

Stage 1) Get scissors and cut your phoneline. Once you have done that, IM me and I will tell you stage 2.

[libbydude]

Hmm. My 2 cents on the whole website shutdowns affecting your downloads. I have not been able to find a decent torrent link in 2 days. If by chance I had, I would surely be uploading to you. As it is I have a very nicely appointed program that specializes in downloading and sharing files that don't seem to exist for me right now. I went down the whole list. Torrentreactor apparently got hijacked and now that site is a mess. Everything I tried ended up in an error message. Funny how things come and go. If I had actually payed for this program it would have been better served to throw the money on the street.

[nukehella]

. Not a single one is a remote connection.

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Same here.Yellow smileys and no remote connections.
Thank God for alternatives.

[Afn]

Stage 1) Get scissors and cut your phoneline. Once you have done that, IM me and I will tell you stage 2.
That is very funny Malicious Intent.


I think the slow down in net speeds is due to the holliday season (kids and parents home from school and work go online.

Santa also adds more machines every year than he takes offline, so this also causes a slow down.

There was talk about the net reaching bandwith saturation and melting down to where no traffic can pass, but I think it is holliday traffic slowing the net down and bandwith throttles, not a larger problem.

Internet2 should solve the bandwith problems once internet2 is deployed to office and home users. yea!

[Rajarius]

When you DL a torrent, it gives you info about the tracker. When you connect to the tracker, it gives you info about the # of peers/seeds and how to connect to them.

Then you connect to said peers. If the tracker goes down, you can't connect to new peers, only those you have already connected to. Check the status of your DLs to see the tracker status.

The tracker has nothing to do with the web presence of an index site. Almost always they are seperate.

But notbob is also correct. Less people means less BW available. And usually, stats on websites are horribly inaccurate.

[rdallen21]

Don't quite understand it, but I've been toying with my incoming TCP listen port in Azureus, and have gotten some interesting results. The default is 6881. That worked for a time, then my DL's got really slow. I changed it to 16881 and got spectacular speeds for about a month. Then everything went back to crap. I brought it back to 6881 today and am back to ~175kbs, which is about the fastest I've gotten with this client. BTW, I also limited my upload speeds to 55kbs, which seemed to up the DL speed a bit more. Don't know if all of this is just a fluke or the ports were/are being blocked by the ISP after a certain amount of activity??? Who knows?