What is industrial music.... ???

[infringer]

Industrial music to me is a very confused genre of music.

I tuned into winamp radio and listend to industry music and it sounded like oldies mixed with enya booo!

Industrial music to me was always thought to be more something like the likes of Marilyn Manson, Static-X, and Nine Inch Nails... Maybe thats industrial meatal but when I think of industrial I dont think of easy going melodies and walking in fields full of flowers I think of pure energetic testosterone driven music with heavy riffs and industrial like sounds mixed in like for instance 'The New Shit" by Marilyn Manson with the Grinding sound of an impact wrench merged into a song...

Industry and tools pretty easy concept to me...

But at current what I heard on winamp sounded nothing shorter then elevator music.

-infringer-

[ratbag]

check out for real industrial music
Throbbing Gristle,
Cabaret Voltaire,
ClockDVA,
Thomas Leer and
Robert Rental
Marlyn Manson is in my opinion metal

[Siskabush]

Hmm, Industrial in my terms has always been Metal + synths and other electronica instruments.

Some good ones to check out.

Razed in black
Icon of coil (More dark trance, but has industrial elements in it).
Pitchshifter
Pain (Possibly the best industrial out there. There is also a punk band named pain, so dont get the 2 mixed up)

Thats all I can think of right now.

[SanDiegoKid]

Einstuerzende Neubauten is probably the first industrial band, as they used industrial equipment in lieu of musical instruments.
Personally I wouldn't consider Nine Inch Nails, Marilyn Manson, or any artist that uses guitars heavily (or in any appreciable amount) to be true to the original genre. Influenced, yes.

Might wanna check out:

Front Line Assembly - Caustic Grip or Tactical Neural Implant
Front 242 - Front by Front or Official Version (if you ask these guys, they're programmers, not musicians)

[infringer]

What about rammstien industirial metal to me just metal to most

[SanDiegoKid]

When Ministry released Land of Rape and Honey in 1988, it was the first cohesive merger of the metal and industrial genres.
Since then the use of electronics in music production and performace has spread widely.

Great album.. think I'm gonna put it on.

[cletis_van_damm]

what about
skinny puppy
pigface
kdfdm
they are simmilar to ministry

[SanDiegoKid]

.. and I would dare say as well, not possible without them.
Pig Face was started by Martin Akins, a contributor to the Ministry camp since 1989's "A Mind is a Terrible Thing to Taste" and a frequent percussionist on their live tours.
KMFDM was euro-pop techno beat until they adopted Ministry's guitar style.
The B-Side to Ministry's "Burning Inside" single is a cool, and by cool I mean totally sweet, cover of Skinny Puppy's "Smothered Hope".
I guess Skinny Puppy really has had their own thing going on. When I used to listen to them there wasn't anyone else like 'em. Though members of Puppy also show up randomly on Pig Face albums, along with every Wax Trax refugee.

[infringer]

Gotta love listening to Jesus Built My Hotrod that will add some spice to just about any day then theres Bad Blood, New World Order, and Just One Fix all greats by Ministry.


I am getting the basic grasp of industrial now but still many seem to play songs which I wouldnt relate to as Industrial Music. But I guess the industrial music scene can be quite confusing and seems to be to most. Though I'll have to check out some of these bands now only if there was a good encrypted file sharing program with lots of content.... :P

Well it'll come something which I will consider some day for my music testing and listening needs something totally anonymous in content and distribution. Until then I will put em on my list as possible buys until I hear the CD's.


In any case cool cool stuff sounds like a decent genre of music I thought it was but winamps shoutcasted station playing industrial as I said was nothing of the sort.

-infringer-

[gothic_hobbit]

Most likely the radio stations on winamp are playing industrial of the ebm/synthpop variety.

Have you heard of Mortiis ? His new album is very industro metal. You should check it out !

www.mortiis.com

[Siskabush]

I forgot "Violent work of art". Check them out. Excellent music.

[dj_alibi]

heard it started with bands like kmfdm and Ministry hooking up 20 vacumm cleaners on stage
Meat Beat Manifesto was my favorite,

[Elvise]

Marlyn Manson is in my opinion metal

Metal? More like wannabe goth. Or crap, depending on your opinion. As for industrial bands, here's some:

Front 242
Front Line Assembly
And One
Ministry
Funker Vogt
KMFDM
VNV Nation
Icon of Coil
Apoptygma Berzerk
Skinny Puppy

[SanDiegoKid]

heard it started with bands like kmfdm and Ministry hooking up 20 vacumm cleaners on stage
Meat Beat Manifesto was my favorite,

I love Meat Beat Manifesto. My favorite album is Satyricon. It's kind of dancy at times, but Edge of No Control Pt1 and 2 are awesome. That's rhyming right there... not like most rappers today that say everything, but tell you nothin'.

[Potato]

Is Wumpscut industrial?

[Siskabush]

Is Wumpscut industrial?

Honestly, I dont know. Ive heard "Wreath of barbs", I dunno what to classify it as.

It might be industrial, or dark soft techno, or they have a unique undefined sound.

[rebirth]

Stomp Out Loud or Blue Man Group or, I think NIN or others. It's a confused genre.

[ninevolt]

i'm not really an expert, but i keep seeing this topic pop up on the sidebar, so i had to join and throw in my two cents.

short version, industrial is cold, dark electronic music. guitars optional, usually unnecessary.

long version...
the roots of industrial are generally widely accepted to have sprouted from coum transmissions/throbbing gristle, as t.g. created INDUSTRIAL RECORDS (http://www.brainwashed.com/tg/industrial.html). there's deliberation over this with the Neubauten fans as to using industrial noises/dark synths or whatever the debate is. i don't know. anyway, coum/t.g. dates back to the early 70's if i remember correctly, and very little of what they produced sounded like actual music. t.g.'s hamburger lady and beachy head sound more evil than anything i've ever heard, they actually make me feel like i'm doing something wrong by listening to it, which is something no other band/song/genre has ever made me feel. the industrial records bands all actually bordered on what's now considered 'dark ambient', which has no type of structure at all and sounds like weird background noise. also, as an afterthought, throbbing gristle and the author william s. burroughs have a very interwined relationship. i'm pretty sure some of his spoken word was released on industrial.

from this original blueprint, there are a lot of different branches, depending on your ears. wumpscut is definitely industrial, although a lot of their songs are very unique sounding, especially wreath of barbs. wumpscut sort of sits on the small fence dividing industrial and electronic body music (ebm, dark industrial), which is what front 242 is considered to have given birth to. ebm doesn't really have a sound, other than being dark and beaty. it can be a straight 4/4 or a break.

skinny puppy took industrial to a much broader fanbase. i think it was an answer to the lighter synthpop of the time. a lot of skinny puppy is hard to bare with if you've never heard it, but it's certainly more listenable than the industrial records troupe if you're not already into industrial. i don't think anything's ever been comparable to skinny puppy, so in that right, they have their own sound.

nine inch nails i don't feel is much more than pop industrial. it's good for what it is, but it's definitely not groundbreaking. trent dipped his hands into a massive fanbase though, and really spread industrial out.

most of the newer industrial stuff (most notably from metropolis records) plays around inbetween dark industrial and synthpop of the 80's. apoptygma berzerk, vnv nation, funker vogt, icon of coil, suicide commando, project pitchfork, etc. are all similar flavors of this group. the structure tends to be very dancy, usually a heavy synth line or two, usually very catchy. guitars are rare.

there's a lot of darkwave bands too, which i haven't really found a description for. projekt considers their tragically goth stuff to be darkwave, and so does pretty much any independent-label industrial outfit, which tends to sound dancy, and rely more on the synthpop structure of most 80's songs, with darker tones to it. also, less catchy. razed in black, battery, omnibox, any of those god-awful cleopatra label "a gothic industrial tribute to x" tribute albums usually fall in this category. it's pretty hit or miss. on the other hand, projekt's stuff tends to sound a lot more natural, slow, etheral, focused on beauty rather than grittiness and dance.

goth and synthpop heavily tie into this genre. lately, so has electro and a very small amount of house. (i heard some guy spin a nitzer ebb song in the middle of a set one year at demf..)

check out:
older=
t.g. - beachy head, hamburger lady
anything by front 242
nitzer ebb - getting closer, join in the chant
skinny puppy - nature's revenge, spasmolytic

newer=
e-craft - electrocution
funker vogt - the 4th dimension, the international killer
apoptygma berzerk - love never dies pt1
vnv nation - legion, darkangel
wumpscut - totmacher, deliverance

check those for a more broader sense of what industrial is.

[g-smooth2k]

Econoline Crush
Fear Factory
Filter
Front 242
Gravity Kills
KMFDM
Ministry
Nine Inch Nails
Pigface
Pitch Shifter
Rammstein
Skinny Puppy
Stabbing Westward
Static-X
VAST -Visual Audio Sensory Theater
Wumpscut


Yahoo! Industrial Rock Music (http://dir.yahoo.com/entertainment/music/artists/by_genre/industrial/industrial_rock/)

Amazon.com Industrial Rock music (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/467950/1/002-0831366-4764041?rank=%2Bsalesrank&submit.x=14&submit.y=8)

Tower Records Industrial Music (http://www.towerrecords.com/Music/Default.aspx?a_uid=USP825_i01-050221-23%3a19%3a45-223212&a_qid=USP825_i01-050221-23%3a19%3a45-223213&genre=Dance%2fElectronica&sub_genre=Industrial&)

Google Search: Industrial Music (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=Industrial+music)

Vast "Touched" Visual Audio Sensory Theater album
considered Industrial & Goth = Goth. One of their best most popular songs.

Static-X - Wisconsin Death Trip

Rammstein - Sehnsucht; Live Aus Berlin; Herzeleid
Heavy progressive rock metal blended with electronic synthmusic.

Stabbing Westward - Wither Blister Burn & Peel; Darkest Days
Is heavy with synth n electronic rock.
considered Industrial & Goth = Industrial = Alt Industrial

[Bold Items] R 1's I like to listen to

[infringer]

Econoline Crush
Fear Factory
Front 242
KMFDM
Ministry
Nine Inch Nails
Pitch Shifter
Rammstein
Skinny Puppy
Static-X
VAST -Visual Audio Sensory Theater
Wumpscut

If this is considered industrial music consider me a fan...

over 50% of the bands on this list I listen to quite frequently I dunno why but lately I have had the taste to listen to ministry lately... There songs are pretty heavy and full of energy its like listening to a new band for me lately.

-infringer-

[gothic_hobbit]

http://www.eis-brecher.com

Here's an up and coming new industrial act.

Similar to Rammstein but more techno-based !

[Peter Stroker]

Industrial is noise masquerading as music that is so bad you need industrial safety equipment when it is playing...ear plugs AND ear muffs, hardhat, steel-toe shoes, leather work gloves and goggles.

[gothic_hobbit]

Industrial is noise masquerading as music that is so bad you need industrial safety equipment when it is playing...ear plugs AND ear muffs, hardhat, steel-toe shoes, leather work gloves and goggles.

And that's precisely why I love it :)

[crackerjacker]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_music

[Excrement_Cranium]

http://www.angelfire.com/weird2/crackerjacker/index.html



My little pony?

[cyb3rslut]

these are some real industrial bands

Angels And Agony
Apoptygma Berzerk
Angelspit
Animassacre
Assemblage 23
Ayria
Code64
Combichrist
Covenant (not to be confused with the death metal band)
Dope Stars Inc.
Funker Vogt
God Module
Grendel
Hocico
Icon Of Coil
Imperative Reaction
In Strict Confidence
KMFDM
Lights of Euphoria
London After Midnight
mind.in.a.box
Ministry
MORTIIS
NamNamBulu
NEBULA-H
Neuroticfish
Nitzer Ebb
Pride And Fall
Psyclon Nine
Razed in Black
Recon
Seabound
servo.hatred
Skinny Puppy
suicide commando
The Birthday Massacre
The Cruxshadows
VNV Nation
XP8
Zombie Girl

[amart129]

A perfect example of Industrial Music,
Margin of Error is GOD.

<a href="http://www.myspace.com/mar6inof3rror" target="_new"><img src="http://margin-of-error.com/flyer/dcrban3.gif" border="0"></a>

[gothic_hobbit]

KMFDM's latest CD slams !

[Lord_of_the_Dense]

The toilet bowl lid or what?

Tell us about it.

[evilmegaman]

KMFDM's latest CD slams !


my friend loves that band. he's a ginger kid and a goth. kinda douchey... but lol worthy

[carpefile]

I know KMFDM is german something or other, but I have a friend who swears it stands for Kill Mother F**kin Depeche Mode! which I find hilarious.
Anywho,
My fav industrial bands are Ministry, KMFDM, Nitzer-Ebb, Skinny Puppy, NiN, and Cat Rapes Dog.
Basically, if listening to it brings forth an almost uncontrollable urge to drive really fast, break things, and kill people, its most likely industrial music. ;)

[Excrement_Cranium]

Wow... talk about blowing the dust off...

[Lord_of_the_Dense]

You have good taste, carpe.

[gothic_hobbit]

Die Krupps is another good industrial band.

[jamesmnw]

Check out the Aussie group Angelspit if you are into industrial.