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g-smooth2k
December 11th, 2004, 04:36 PM
Source: NY Times (http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/arts/AP-Wal-Mart-Evanescence.html)

Maryland Couple Sues Wal-Mart to Censor Evanescence Lyrics on CD It Sells or Stop Selling It

HAGERSTOWN, Md. (AP) -- Wal-Mart Stores Inc., which promotes itself as a seller of clean music, deceived customers by stocking compact discs by the rock group Evanescence that contain the f-word, a lawsuit claims.

The hit group's latest CD and DVD, ``Anywhere But Home,'' don't carry parental advisory labels alerting potential buyers to the obscenity. If they did, Wal-Mart wouldn't carry them, according to the retailer's policy.

But the lawsuit claims Wal-Mart knew about the explicit lyrics in the song, ``Thoughtless,'' because it censored the word in a free sample available on its Web site and in its stores.

The complaint, filed Thursday in Washington County Circuit Court, seeks an order requiring Wal-Mart to either censor or remove the music from its Maryland stores. It also seeks damages of up to $74,500 for each of the thousands of people who bought the music at Wal-Marts in Maryland.

``I don't want any other families to get this, expecting it to be clean. It needs to be removed from the shelves to prevent other children from hearing it,'' said plaintiff Trevin Skeens of Brownsville.

Skeens said he and his wife, Melanie, let their daughter buy the music for her 13th birthday and were shocked when they played it in their car while driving home.

Wal-Mart, of Bentonville, Ark., has no immediate plans to pull the CDs from its shelves, spokesman Guy Whitcomb told The (Hagerstown) Herald-Mail. He said the company will investigate the allegations. No hearing dates have been set.

``While Wal-Mart sets high standards, it would not be possible to eliminate every image, word or topic that an individual might find objectionable,'' Whitcomb told the newspaper.

He told the Herald-Mail that the song sample online was censored by Walmart.com, a separate division of Wal-Mart.

Whitcomb didn't return telephone calls Friday from The Associated Press.

The lawsuit also names as defendants Wind-up Records LLC, the New York-based company that recorded the music and decided not to apply parental-advisory stickers; and distributor BMG Entertainment, a subsidiary of Sony BMG Music Entertainment, of New York.

Sony BMG declined to comment on the lawsuit. Wind-up didn't return calls from the AP.

The Skeens' lawyer, Jon D. Pels of Bethesda, said he aims to ``take this case national, even if that means going state by state.''

He dismissed Whitcomb's suggestion that Wal-Mart stores didn't know about the censored version of the song. ``They are a multimillion-dollar corporation and they certainly can communicate among their various entities,'' he said.

serrebi101
December 11th, 2004, 04:42 PM
all over the word fuck, it's not like it's out in the open anyway, lol.

Wolfie
December 11th, 2004, 04:42 PM
They (Wal-Mart) would not be in this mess to begin with they had not appointed themselves the moral police of book, music and movie retail.

SanDiegoKid
December 11th, 2004, 04:47 PM
They (Wal-Mart) would not be in this mess to begin with they had not appointed themselves the moral police of book, music and movie retail.

Well said. By ecouraging the belief that certain words are more than words, but "bad", they've dug their own hole.

rebirth
December 11th, 2004, 04:54 PM
I think it's funny people are suing them for NOT editing something. WTF?

black_magiic
December 11th, 2004, 04:54 PM
I still hate people like that, some people REALLY need to loosen up. When you get down to it, ultimately its only a word; its all in how you percieve it. If you want it to bed a "bad" word then thats what it will be; or you can just say "big deal" its only a word.

hawkburn
December 11th, 2004, 05:17 PM
America as a whole is just nation of prudes. As long as we let the government tell us that un-moral things are horrible, we'll never see anything past Britney Spears.

On a side note: What did they expect from Evanescense (sp?) - it's a gothic type rock band... did they expect it to be a family Christian album?

rainbowdemon
December 11th, 2004, 05:29 PM
Do such words actually come out of Amy's pretty mouth?

:fire :fire

mfgbypooter
December 11th, 2004, 05:30 PM
Walmart sucks. I wish more people would sue them.

BTW how many movies does walmart sell that has the word fuck in it?

ducttapeBigSexy
December 11th, 2004, 06:30 PM
i work in a retail store, and i gotta say, on one day alone, i hear fuck dropped by customers more then i would hear listening to that cd. so, i guess wal-mart's next move should be to ban all people from entering the store, b/c they might drop a word everyone has already heard

moneoa
December 11th, 2004, 06:36 PM
This is just some dudes greedy ass going for the juggular.
His daughter says fuck at least 300 times daily while talking to her friends for sure.
I hope the judge sees this as the frivolous shit it is and throw it out.

ratbag
December 11th, 2004, 06:56 PM
america land of the frivolous lawsuit

moneoa im suing you for saying shit

Malakai1911
December 11th, 2004, 08:38 PM
People shouldn't listen to censored music anyway, its not how the artist originally intended the song.

If you don't like cursing, content, whatever, then don't listen to the band, find someone else that is more your thing.

Siskabush
December 11th, 2004, 08:42 PM
Oh come on. They spazz about the F-word, but they have no problem with letting thier kids watch some whore belly dancing on TV or at a lip-synched concert.

Get real people.

Stownplayer
December 11th, 2004, 08:56 PM
FUCK Wal-mart and fuck stupid lawsuits.

Ne007
December 11th, 2004, 10:31 PM
On a side note: What did they expect from Evanescense (sp?) - it's a gothic type rock band... did they expect it to be a family Christian album?


Well....the funny thing about this statement is that Evanescense is almost pushed into the religious/christian rock category..... :;)

origin
December 11th, 2004, 11:13 PM
iggnorant f**ks this is similar to obese people filing suit against mc donalds for making them over weight. Its there personal choice no one is forcing them do to anything. Same scenario here its iggnorant folks placing blame where ever they think will benefit them most.

l8

MushroomheadXIII
December 12th, 2004, 12:22 AM
They were sued over the use of some stupid lyrics? That's just stupid - no comment.

Siskabush
December 12th, 2004, 01:01 AM
Soon we will see beer makers sued by alcoholics because the beer corps. fucked up thier lives.

Lord_of_the_Dense
December 12th, 2004, 02:03 PM
I fucking hate Wal-Mart.

moneoa
December 12th, 2004, 02:13 PM
I fucking hate Wal-Mart.
Side note off topic, there is a South Park Episode that just aired
where stans father and half the town were completely addicted
to Wal-Mart but hated the shit out of it, Wal-Mart is pure evil......
Surely they checked it for profanity and perhaps missed this one word?

wapazoid
December 12th, 2004, 02:53 PM
It also seeks damages of up to $74,500 for each of the thousands of people who bought the music at Wal-Marts in Maryland.

No argument could ever justify that kind of "damage" claim. What a fine example of the term "frivolous lawsuit". Yeah, I bet thousands hopped on the bandwagon at the prospect of making some money. The Skeens family better lock their daughter in a closet before she becomes corrupted any further. I wonder if they let her adorn her bedroom with posters of Disney's favorite little whore, Christina Aguilera?

Wolfie
December 12th, 2004, 07:17 PM
Gotta love South Park,lol.

Slycktom
December 12th, 2004, 07:30 PM
They have a new CD out?

mp3MaStA88
December 12th, 2004, 10:30 PM
FUCK Wal-mart and fuck stupid lawsuits.
I agree with this... This is over some stupid shit (the f word.) wow.... fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck .... Excuse my vulgarity of the word FUCK, but why would someone sue over this. Obviously this family doesn't have anything better to do except sue some company over one word that people say a crap load of times over a day.

Psilaxs
December 13th, 2004, 12:14 AM
America as a whole is just nation of prudes. As long as we let the government tell us that un-moral things are horrible, we'll never see anything past Britney Spears.

On a side note: What did they expect from Evanescense (sp?) - it's a gothic type rock band... did they expect it to be a family Christian album?

This goes way beyond that. It stems from bad parenting, who in the hell allows a store to make decisions for your children without first checking the material yourself.

And secondly: a Judicial system which allows such nonsensical bullshit lawsuits into the courts in the first place.

infringer
December 13th, 2004, 02:20 AM
Walmart did dig there own hole by selling censored music.
Fuck is a word considered to be a bad word but really if we didnt make it a big deal it wouldnt be we worry about such little piddly shit all the time in our small time spent in exsistance here on earth.
You could be far more derogetory in tone or in a sentance without even using one of the magic words, which we consider curse words... Look at the presidential campaign our country leaders and the sob's you know each one of them used far more personal blows then the word fuck.
But by the looks on there faces they sure wanted to be able to use one of the unforbidden words either that or they needed preperation h. Not to mention as a child growning up in the real world not this fairy tale dream world that were all brain washed to believe that we live in I frequented the words I was not allowed to use along with every other kid that I could remember kids know a lot more then what we give them credit for!

Censord material is not original and therefore should not be allowed to be sold it is borderline infringement on there part editing out the true content of the artists work.
To truely appriciate an artist or there work one should not listen to it in censored manner if doing so you do not really appreciate the artists work therefore why even support an artist you know whos intent is to curse in there original work if you do not believe in the artisit's real work then why suppot them
It'd be like bush funding money for terriosts but only if they used baseball bats and not guns....

FUCKing stupid

g-smooth2k
December 13th, 2004, 03:23 AM
Also K-Mart sell censored music like Wal-Mart

I rather shop at Virgin Megastore or Tower Records for unedited CDs and DVDs.

On some songs it just doesn't sound good with the curse lyrics missing.

isus
December 13th, 2004, 04:42 AM
and this is from maryland... my state. wonderful bunch of prudes we have here.