View Full Version : 3.3, what's the verdict so far?
View Full Version : 3.3, what's the verdict so far?
MistahMan
September 7th, 2002, 04:53 PM
NT
Power Penguin
September 7th, 2002, 05:12 PM
It's a good program. Now it has a download accelerator built in!
Wish they'd tidied it up more though.
MistahMan
September 7th, 2002, 05:28 PM
As good as 2.6, stability wise? Or still buggy?
Power Penguin
September 7th, 2002, 05:38 PM
I only got the net in about March, so I don't think I encountered 2.6, 3.something crashed with alarge number of simultaneous downloads. Can't say for sure this one hasn't got that bug, as I've been looking at the features, not having a massive d/l session.
Might have some comments to make on this in a few weeks, after I've thrased it about.
AnimeDood
September 7th, 2002, 05:51 PM
its really good, a lot better than 3.2! i like it!
backmann
September 7th, 2002, 05:52 PM
I never had stability problms with any of the versions since 2.6, but in the info of the released they say it has been improved in that aspect.
Ivan
"In the dark we make a brighter light"
Caitlyn Marble
September 7th, 2002, 06:00 PM
I left WinMX running last night after I upgraded it. I got most the rare stuff I wanted cause I stuck everything on auto complete and search for more sources every xx minutes. Very good.
neoufo51
September 7th, 2002, 06:37 PM
WinMX 3.3 is by far the most stable and feature packed version I've seen so far. ( Auto-find sources is a work of art!) It'll be about a week till the user base gets to be as big as it was during 3.22, and the rest of this weekend should have a huge jump in users migrating from 3.22. Right now, from the search results im getting, I'd say 3.3 has about 35-40% of its user base after two days, which is already better than most clients out there.
I say to all the people complaining about not getting files they want at the moment to just shut up and be patient. Honestly, I've never seen a client where its biggest flaw is not in itself, but SOME of the user base.
Crazy Horse
September 7th, 2002, 06:54 PM
Ditto to what neoufo said. No problems. I like it very much.
Power Penguin
September 7th, 2002, 07:15 PM
Don't like the way it kicks 3.2 users off, by not allowing a connection.
Deep Thought
September 7th, 2002, 07:22 PM
What? 3.3 connects to a completely different network from 3.2.
MistahMan
September 7th, 2002, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by neoufo51
WinMX 3.3 is by far the most stable and feature packed version I've seen so far. ( Auto-find sources is a work of art!) It'll be about a week till the user base gets to be as big as it was during 3.22, and the rest of this weekend should have a huge jump in users migrating from 3.22. Right now, from the search results im getting, I'd say 3.3 has about 35-40% of its user base after two days, which is already better than most clients out there.
I say to all the people complaining about not getting files they want at the moment to just shut up and be patient. Honestly, I've never seen a client where its biggest flaw is not in itself, but SOME of the user base.
Would you say that the 3.22 user base is bigger than that of 2.6? Of the three so far, which is leading?
alirio
September 7th, 2002, 09:08 PM
am I understanding this right...3.3 users can't connect to 2.6 users?
jabba|xtra
September 7th, 2002, 09:23 PM
WinMX 2.6 runs on the WPNP (WinMX Peer Network Protocol). winmx 3 runs on the WPN (WinMX Peer Network). They are completely separate, 2.6 does not allow multisource and is in no way connected to 3.xx. Whenever a new version comes out in the 3 series, the older versions primary connections are disabled, so you will upgrade to the latest.
macazar88
September 7th, 2002, 09:58 PM
jafar rite more than 1.9.is there evin a 1.9
jabba|xtra
September 7th, 2002, 10:00 PM
its probably out there soemwhere, but ive never heard of it. The oldest version i know of is 2.1, which is from when winmx was opennap only.
neoufo51
September 8th, 2002, 04:31 AM
The 3.22 user base is the biggest right now, but they will soon migrate completely to 3.3 since 3.22 has some crashing problems related to the primary connection for broadband users. 3.3 is much more stable, reports so far indicate that the chat function is the only screwy thing on it, but who chats anyway?
There are still a lot of people who use 2.6 for some reason, and because of this, they are missing out on swarming, a much more stable connection, etc, but they dont care as long as it downloads. This sucks big time, of course, cuz those precious files they have are unattainable through 3.3. I'd say there are a good 10-15,000 WinMX 2.6 users out there who are incredibly stubborn.
ontwofronts
September 8th, 2002, 04:57 AM
The 3.3 program itself is great, but the actual number of available files is hopeless. I hope this is just a "quirk" of the migration from 3.22 because at the moment I am yet to complete a download in 2 days of 3.3 usage wheras up until friday I could download away on 3.22. The size of the queues is beyond a joke and have you noticed just how quickly you develop an upload queue and just how big it gets?
MistahMan
September 8th, 2002, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by neoufo51
The 3.22 user base is the biggest right now, but they will soon migrate completely to 3.3 since 3.22 has some crashing problems related to the primary connection for broadband users. 3.3 is much more stable, reports so far indicate that the chat function is the only screwy thing on it, but who chats anyway?
There are still a lot of people who use 2.6 for some reason, and because of this, they are missing out on swarming, a much more stable connection, etc, but they dont care as long as it downloads. This sucks big time, of course, cuz those precious files they have are unattainable through 3.3. I'd say there are a good 10-15,000 WinMX 2.6 users out there who are incredibly stubborn.
So between 3.3 and 2.6, which has the most users right now? And what is swarming?
Ken17625
September 8th, 2002, 04:00 PM
"I say to all the people complaining about not getting files they want at the moment to just shut up and be patient."
That statement makes me not wan't to use WinMX. Also the fact that none of these WinMX versions can connect to each other is very screwy. It splits the user base up and makes using one of the 3 not worth your while. I have 3.3. The results I got showed that more and more files were in long Queues and impossible to get. I tired 3 different mp3s and none of them started to download. I got put in Queue. 100, 22, 16 were some of the queues I got on one download that had multiple sources. On one I had 16 sources and never got the damn file. Thats absolutely nuts. 16 sources on the fasttrack network, I would have got my file and fast. WinMX is not better than Fasttrack. Even with fasttrack's recent problems. WinMX has a long way to go. Although i'll still contiune to use and SHARE on WinMX. I encourage others to do the same.
neoufo51
September 8th, 2002, 04:06 PM
Originally posted by MistahMan
So between 3.3 and 2.6, which has the most users right now? And what is swarming?
Oh god, DO NOT USE 2.6, it's for people so stubborn that they will never use anything that MIGHT slow down their precious 300 Mhz Pentium II with 64 MB of RAM. WinMX 3.3 is SO much more advanced, it would be insane to go back to 2.6. Be advised that 3.3 WILL have the largest user base very soon, since people have gripes with the stability of 3.22. Plus, 3.22 has a message at the top of the network window telling you to upgrade to 3.3. Besides, 3.22 doesn't collapse the user list on the transfer window and 3.3 does, which is more than enough reason for ANYBODY to get 3.3. Plus, OGG support will let us get at those cool .ogg files from the audiophiles. According to the latest expert listening and technical tests, the open source .ogg format is far beyond the quality of MP3, and with half the filesize, im sure this format will be MP3's predecessor, both in the market, and especially the P2P scene.
By the way, swarming is the ability to download a file in parts from several users at the same time, which dramatically increases your download speed for people with a broadband connection. ( I get a nice 150k-200kbs speed on WinMX 3.3 when downloading from at least 3 users ) Thus saving time for a LOT of people on p2p networks. So far, pretty much every p2p network, including Gnutella and WinMX have implemented swarming, much to the benefit to the millions of users.
neoufo51
September 8th, 2002, 04:20 PM
Hey iguana, been hearing a lot about you. Seems you have a fan base among us on Zeropaid.
No, that quote isn't supposed to make you wanna use WinMX, its supposed to tell the whiners to just upgrade and soon everybody will be using 3.3 and the amount of files will pretty much equal that on 3.22.
Besides, don't you remember how people WHINED about how they wanted to stay on version 3.1 because Version 3.22 didn't have all the users yet?!?!? Its gonna be the same thing all over so why complain??? I admit though, its a little annoying how WinMX disables a network entirely. However, PEOPLE SHOULD ALWAYS UPGRADE P2P CLIENTS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE NEW FEATURES AND MAINTAIN THE STABILITY OF THE NETWORK AS A WHOLE. NOBODY SHOULD BE A WEAK LINK AND CONNECT WITH AN OUTDATED CLIENT. I can't tell you how many times i connect to Gnutella with Limewire 2.5.5 and be incredibly ANNOYED at the fact that some ignorant bastard is downloading a 20MB file from me at 1.2 kbps with Limewire 2.0.3. I really hate that, and I'm sure some other people here would agree with me that change on the p2p networks is inherently beneficial.
Deep Thought
September 8th, 2002, 05:07 PM
I'd guestimate that 3.3 has the largest userbase by now.
dj spinelli
September 9th, 2002, 07:36 AM
ok.. its been established that 3.3 is more stable and better than previous versions. i also understand that the "peer networking protocol" that i use with 2.6 is not compatable with 3.3 as it once was with 3.2. obviously, this is why it says "stopped" right now and i cant connect.
what anyone hasnt talked about is the multiple servers that 2.6 allowed us to get on. does 3.3 let you connect to multiple servers as before? or do we have to just rely on the peer networking protocol only? up to this point, using the trippymx server list - http://www.trippymx.co.uk - i was able to see about 30 million files at any given time.. is this the same with 3.3?
dj spinelli
backmann
September 9th, 2002, 08:15 AM
If you are talking about the OpenNap servers, you still can.
Ivan
"In the dark we make a brighter light"
dj spinelli
September 9th, 2002, 08:20 AM
Ivan,
yes.. i should have clarified that.
Soniknap, DJNap, NecessaryEvil, etc..
The only reason i havent moved up from 2.6 is because i tried 3.2 and noticed it didnt give me the option to get on the opennap servers (or didnt show me a server list). you say that 3.3 lets you? how is this possible? does it show you the server list or is it just there hidden in the background?
dj spinelli
backmann
September 9th, 2002, 12:23 PM
look, I've honestly never connected to an Opennap server, and I don't know if this is what you mean, but here's what you have (and what you also had in the other 3.x versions): you have connect to the WinMx Peer Network to the left and to Opennap protocol networks to the left.
Ivan
"In the dark we make a brighter light"
dj spinelli
September 9th, 2002, 01:30 PM
actually.. i've figured it out. if you get the napmx program - , it shows a server list then exports it into winmx 3.3
ive connected to about 18 servers and see about 40 million files online. this is incredible. all this and im using the newest version.
thanks for the help you provided to me.
dj spinelli
MamiyaOtaru
September 9th, 2002, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by jabba|xtra
its probably out there soemwhere, but ive never heard of it. The oldest version i know of is 2.1, which is from when winmx was opennap only.
I still have 1.8 (AFAIK the last version of the 1.** line) It only connects to opennap. I like it a lot, the organization of the servers is much better, and I like the layout better. Of course, it is completely dead and I don't use it at all anymore :P
I also have and use 2.6 (until now, since it was cut off) Before it was cut off I used it and 3.3.. lets me connect to all those stubborn people :P Certain searches got me more on 2.6 than 3.22 right up until the end.
I have heard some complaints about how there are more queues in 3.3.. This is prolly due to the auto enter queue feature. Can't have your cake and eat it too.
MistahMan
September 9th, 2002, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by MamiyaOtaru
I still have 1.8 (AFAIK the last version of the 1.** line) It only connects to opennap. I like it a lot, the organization of the servers is much better, and I like the layout better. Of course, it is completely dead and I don't use it at all anymore :P
I also have and use 2.6 (until now, since it was cut off) Before it was cut off I used it and 3.3.. lets me connect to all those stubborn people :P Certain searches got me more on 2.6 than 3.22 right up until the end.
I have heard some complaints about how there are more queues in 3.3.. This is prolly due to the auto enter queue feature. Can't have your cake and eat it too.
2.6 doesn't work anymore?!? Since when?
PatientSaint
September 10th, 2002, 12:25 AM
i like 3.3 yet i'd still reallly like to see more people switch to it.....i think that is a problem is people getting onto new version and BITCHIN about que problems jus make that jump it's worth it :)
MamiyaOtaru
September 10th, 2002, 04:42 PM
2.6 works fine for opennap still, but last I checked you couldn't connect to WPNP anymore. I hope I'm wrong.
AoiM
September 10th, 2002, 04:51 PM
For some people it restart the pc or like in my case just stop responding, besides other few uploads/download issues.
still winmx 2.6 is the best.
2001team
September 10th, 2002, 05:20 PM
I actually do like it. I think Win MX is well on it's way to becoming the next Fasttrack. I also think that they are better than Fasttrack because they actually listen to what the file sharing community has to say rather than turn their back on them like someone (Kazaa, Grokster, IMesh) and all they need to do is make the interface cleaner and sleek, but I would put performance over looks.
Wolfie
September 10th, 2002, 08:16 PM
needs more people. I am not getting as much multipoint dl as I was getting on previous version even on the popular stuff.