Canadian ISP warns Bit Torrent users

[Lord_of_the_Dense]

It seems that Cogeco, a Canadian ISP has begun sending its users warnings about their activities on P2P networks. The strange fact is, the warnings appear to be under DMCA (Digital Millennium Copyright Act) laws, which are U.S. laws, not Canadian laws. The BT tracker that seems to be gaining attention is the Swedish suprnova.org tracker. The emails also encourage the ISP's to limit users from accessing suprnova.org.

These actions can be compared to those taken in European countries for about the past year. Basically, someone affiliated with the MPAA or other anti-piracy organizations would begin a download on a P2P network, then record all the IP's it downloads from. After recording all the data it needs, it would continue to send the information the ISP, hoping that they will deal with the issue. However, there are some complications too. For example, some networks like the donkey network, trade files in small parts and in no particular order. In other words, you may be downloading the end of the file first. Whether you have the full file or not, as long as you have just one part, your client will be able to upload to other users. So would the MPAA ever take you to court for sharing a part of a movie, that is only a couple of MB's and pretty much completely useless without all the other parts?

Read entire story here (http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/5537.cfm) .

[moneoa]

funny the dmca has no power here and they are blowing steam out there ass.
Actually its funny, our police bitch about how slack our Isp's enforcement policies are.

[Siskabush]

LOL! They tried Sweden the other day, now us!

The US companies think they own the world all of a sudden. These idiots should glance at the globe, look at the lines between the countries to see where they can enforce these laws.

[TronixA]

Trust me, it's only a select few in the US who are doing all this crap. If the majority of Americans had their way, there would be no DMCA and no court orders. Don't blame the US as a whole. It's the pigopolists running the show. The problem is that true democracy in the US is only a shadow of it's former self. With all the corporate mergers that have unlawfully allowed to happen in the past decade, corporations have become powerful entities- yet still given the same treatment as an individual. US law considers corporations to be living entities. That's well and good until they are allowed to merge (reducing competition, jobs, and making them way too cocky).. That my friend is a slice of the pie that you see of our "great" nation. Some say that this is capitalism at it's best but it's an outright lie. It's a manipulation of the market to allow companies that can't stay competitive, keep their money by way of political donations- and I'm just not talking about the RIAA either. This goes for all companies... Trust me, the moment congress stops catering to the likes of these companies, the better off this country will be.

[Mels_Smileys45]

I got my letter fo using BT! Now they can blowme! DMCA kiss my ass!

[davec8]

Cogeco's my ISP but I don't use Bittorent. I guess they're trying to scare newbies to P2P who don't visit sites like this and don't know Filesharing's been ruled legal in Canada into quitting. It'll be interesting to see if they try to attack the Fasttrack or other netwoks also or if any other Canadian ISP's waste their time doing the same. It'll be a good laugh if they do.

[stecbine]

Cogeco is my ISP and all Cogeco is doing is passing the email on to the user. They are not limiting bitorrent in anyway nor are they cooperating with the RIAA/MPAA because their laws have no jurisdiction here. The only way that Cogeco will ever do something about it is the offending user was hurting the network in any way by extreme usage that degrades the network (standard action for any isp) or an actual warrant was secured to get the personal info of the offender. Other than that Cogeco is NOT interested in being a police officer they just pass the info on to the user just to let them know that their actions have been noticed it's as simple as that.

[Malicious Intent]

Careful Davec8, all fileaharing hasn't been declared legal.

Downloading only applies to music, but this is about films. Downloading films may or may not be lawful, but very unlikely.

The Uploading judgement doesn't apply to BT. BT has a very different set up to the protocols which were questioned. Much of the judges statement was about shared folders, which BT doesn't have.

So filesharing has not been ruled legal in its entirity.

Also don't forget that although the DMCA has no power in Canada, the WIPO agreements it's based on do. Don't sit back and relax, the battle in Canada is far from over.

I wrote an article on this which you may find interesting: http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=509
It is suppose to be easy reading.

[Lord_of_the_Dense]

Bigger than Krell

Now that's definitely asking for trouble. Wait til rebirth gets a hold of you. :tol

[notbob]

krell is not a tall man

many are bigger than him

as far as posts and intellect are concerned? MI doesn't even stand as tall as krell's shadow, in relation to krell's sharp edge, MI's is like a basketball

[Mels_Smileys45]

He must be talking about some other krell or maybe they put a ruler on their meat and potatoes.

[davec8]

You raise a good point Malicious Intent. It's not as cut and dry as legal and illegal as I originally put it. I guess I was referring to court battles that have ruled in Filesharings favor recently in Canada as an overall victory, but as you say it's not quite that simple.

[Malicious Intent]

What's life without a bit of controversy?

If anyone is genuinely put out, let me know and I'll change it. It is just a bit of fun based on the infamous "bigger than Jesus."

[muffenme]

:fire

I don't use BT at this point but I wasn't doing much download because I been doing other thing.

:hole

[Mels_Smileys45]

Oh, now your comparing yourself to John Lennon and the Beatles! Now I'm pissed!

Just kidding MI! I figured it was meant to be funny.

[elec999]

Bittorent isnt always used for illegal files. Many legal downloads are downloaded with bittorent. Tons of linux distros are downloaded with bittorent.

[Toog]

Big surprise. Is it still true that the powersthatbe in Canada censor the TV airwaves and block out Fox News?

Factoid: US law does not apply outside of the US.

Some torrent sites have posted their hilarious response letters to US law firms.

As you may or may not be aware, Sweden is not a state in the United States of America. Sweden is a country in northern Europe. Unless you figured it out by now, US law does not apply here.