3,039,941! users?!

[mp3master1215]

I found this many users on kazaa just right now. How is this possible. How did they almost get back to there full potential like that. I dont get it!

[Deuce Up]

glitch in the matrix :tilted

[serrebi101]

it's 3,039,941! riaa bots and n00bies sharing fake files , and the few kazaalite people who are resisting change.

[Deuce Up]

lol :tilted serrebi brings us crashing back to reality!

[FrozenShadow23]

Donno, there's also a few users with their heads buried in sand and don't know there's anything better. I've met a few. I didn't know they even existed. You would think they were extinct, like dinosaurs....

[The Hunter]

There is the rare occasion that i still use it, but it is one hell of a rare file that i cant find elsewhere.

[muffenme]

:fire

2,656,870 on kazaa @ 23:58 GMT

:hole

[downloadalot]

All these people dissing kazaa make me smile. Fact is it is the p2p app with the most variety of mp3 - and things way are going there will not be another. Bittorent? get real! Sure I got all my Gangstarr albums in seconds and I am thankfull for that. But no way will I find my rare files on this network. All these new network are good, but only for popular files (wich is ok for a lot of people since they dont want anything else or know any better). oh no! my britney spear mp3 is fake bouhouhou!. P2p is just not what it used to be in the napster day where you could find almost any obscure track, not only american pop music. p2p is less and less attractive for people like me. The whole point of peer-to-peer was to discover new stuff and get music you wouldnt find in the store. Something that is getting harder and harder, and will just get harder when kazza go down. p2p is going downhill. Sad.

[crackerjacker]

p2p is going downhill. Sad.

thats only if people allow p2p go downhill.
bittorent is nice
cheers

[downloadalot]

The way the bittorent network is structured makes it impossible to host anything but popular files. The more sophisticated your tastes in music are, the less attractive this network will appear to you.

[thongsai]

lol when kazaa goes down it will get easier to get stuff. the noobies will flock to networks with partial file sharing, global searchin and real hashin to keep the fake files to a minimum.

[The Hunter]

Aint that the truth.

[hawkburn]

lol when kazaa goes down it will get easier to get stuff. the noobies will flock to networks with partial file sharing, global searchin and real hashin to keep the fake files to a minimum.
Yet BitTorrent will stay the same. All real files, great speeds because the people that use it are more advanced and thus know how to manage bandwidth, and just an overall great experience when there's lots of users, yet they all have some computer sense.

[Gnidrologist]

All these people dissing kazaa make me smile. Fact is it is the p2p app with the most variety of mp3 - and things way are going there will not be another. Bittorent? get real! Sure I got all my Gangstarr albums in seconds and I am thankfull for that. But no way will I find my rare files on this network. All these new network are good, but only for popular files (wich is ok for a lot of people since they dont want anything else or know any better). oh no! my britney spear mp3 is fake bouhouhou!. P2p is just not what it used to be in the napster day where you could find almost any obscure track, not only american pop music. p2p is less and less attractive for people like me. The whole point of peer-to-peer was to discover new stuff and get music you wouldnt find in the store. Something that is getting harder and harder, and will just get harder when kazza go down. p2p is going downhill. Sad.
Completely disagree. You may have random luck in search for a rare file in kazaa, but all kazaa's flaws way overweights this.
From my experience the best network to find any rare music is direct connect. Soulseek's ok, but it's not getting bigger and usually conteins same old stuff from same old users.
In dc network there are so many hubs and there's lot of specialized hubs. For example, there's hubs dedicated to world music, jazz, blues, techno, trance etc.
I'm mainly looking for 60s,70s rock, rythm&blues, psychedelia and I have found a few hubs with maybe 60-100 users per hub, which has dedicated for this kind of stuff and there are gathered really serious collectionars with stuff so rare I even didn't know it could exist. Not to mention usual rutine of complete didcographies of more or less known bands. No way I could find a 1/1000000 of all that stuff in kazaa and not in soulseek either. So my advice if using dc, don't necesserely seek for biggest hubs, try to search a bit longer and find the one with the type of music/movies you're looking for. You'll find one for sure.
Oh yeah, and Winmx is absolutely the best for music videos. It seems that all the people with rare musicvids use exsclusively winmx which is mistery to me and not too appriciatable, because I hate that app (hoping for major improvements in new version which will never be released).

[Miniver]

Completely disagree. You may have random luck in search for a rare file in kazaa, but all kazaa's flaws way overweights this.
From my experience the best network to find any rare music is direct connect. Soulseek's ok, but it's not getting bigger and usually conteins same old stuff from same old users.
In dc network there are so many hubs and there's lot of specialized hubs. For example, there's hubs dedicated to world music, jazz, blues, techno, trance etc.
I'm mainly looking for 60s,70s rock, rythm&blues, psychedelia and I have found a few hubs with maybe 60-100 users per hub, which has dedicated for this kind of stuff and there are gathered really serious collectionars with stuff so rare I even didn't know it could exist. Not to mention usual rutine of complete didcographies of more or less known bands. No way I could find a 1/1000000 of all that stuff in kazaa and not in soulseek either. So my advice if using dc, don't necesserely seek for biggest hubs, try to search a bit longer and find the one with the type of music/movies you're looking for. You'll find one for sure.
Oh yeah, and Winmx is absolutely the best for music videos. It seems that all the people with rare musicvids use exsclusively winmx which is mistery to me and not too appriciatable, because I hate that app (hoping for major improvements in new version which will never be released).
I agree, dc is the way to go for anything rare that you want with good quality. Fasttrack and gnutella can't compare. Winmx just sucks ass.

[g-smooth2k]

Kazaa Users: 2,336,270 @ 3:24 GMT
1,499,748,506 files

[stecbine]

it's 3,039,941! riaa bots and n00bies sharing fake files , and the few kazaalite people who are resisting change.Yeah I'm with serrebi on this!

[Nolanistic]

Completely agree with the DC Statement. *Cough* Ubernet... *Cough*... (Even though it's not available on Mac, I have to use a PC to rip my music, no bother, though). However, FastTrack is a poorly designed and implemented network, it only spread because it became synonomous with P2P and "Fre mUziK!" "LOLOLLOLLLLOLOL I GET 2 DWNLOD FRE MuzIk U Suk RiAA!!!!! LOLOL" - Example of your average KaZaa User.

However, the figures must be wrong, to quote Blackadder:


E: Since Wednesday morning. I took over the previous electorate when he, very
sadly, accidently brutally cut his head off while combing his hair.

H: One voter, 16,472 votes -- a slight anomaly...?

[Nolanistic]

Continuing on that thread (Apologies for the Double Post), The main reason that FastTrack sucks:

Sharman Exec #1: Okay, I've got a brilliant Idea, you know that new program we're making, KaZaa, I've got an idea how to cut Support requests completely!

Sharman Exec #2: Go on.

Sharman Exec #1: Well, you know how hashing takes forever right, calculating all those stupid numbers, I mean nothing really uses hashing, except multisource downloads.

Sharman Exec #2: Go on.

Sharman Exec #1: Well, lets invent our own system of hashing, where we enable multi-source downloads but only hash a miniscule part of the file. Thus increasing the amount of money we receive. Because we don't spend money on Tech Support.

Sharman Exec #2: But doesn't that mean people could technically spoof that hash and then have a corrupted file?

Sharman Exec #1: Don't be out of your mind. It'll be fine.

Sharman Exec #2: But how will we get the most market share with such a poorly designed program that has these serious security flaws? It won't even do what we claim it will do and it will be plagued with profiteers and viruses!

Sharman Exec #1: Have you ever heard of Microsoft? They followed that strategy to the letter and made billions! Now lets go bathe in the piles of money we make for bundling spyware with our shoddy program and ill-designed network!


Sharman Exec #2: Hurrah!

*They run off and bathe in money*

[Malicious Intent]

No Nolanistic - the problem conversation came later:

Sharman Exec #1: The RIAA are taking advantage of our weak hashing system!
Sharman Exec #2: Who gives a crap?

[dbcalo]

All these people dissing kazaa make me smile. Fact is it is the p2p app with the most variety of mp3 - and things way are going there will not be another. Bittorent? get real! Sure I got all my Gangstarr albums in seconds and I am thankfull for that. But no way will I find my rare files on this network. All these new network are good, but only for popular files (wich is ok for a lot of people since they dont want anything else or know any better). oh no! my britney spear mp3 is fake bouhouhou!. P2p is just not what it used to be in the napster day where you could find almost any obscure track, not only american pop music. p2p is less and less attractive for people like me. The whole point of peer-to-peer was to discover new stuff and get music you wouldnt find in the store. Something that is getting harder and harder, and will just get harder when kazza go down. p2p is going downhill. Sad.


someone hasn't tried soulseek yet.

[dragoonballz]

Ok, yes you're right. DC is a good way for getting files, Kazaa, that is so two years a go. lol, now a days it's mostly Shareaza that is the best program to use. I'll admit, I used Napster almost all the time when it just came out, then it got sued, and shut down. Filesharing when downhill from there, but I'd say Shareaza and DC are the two best ways to fileshare these days.

[kidmidnight]

All these people dissing kazaa make me smile. Fact is it is the p2p app with the most variety of mp3 - and things way are going there will not be another. Bittorent? get real! Sure I got all my Gangstarr albums in seconds and I am thankfull for that. But no way will I find my rare files on this network. All these new network are good, but only for popular files (wich is ok for a lot of people since they dont want anything else or know any better). oh no! my britney spear mp3 is fake bouhouhou!. P2p is just not what it used to be in the napster day where you could find almost any obscure track, not only american pop music. p2p is less and less attractive for people like me. The whole point of peer-to-peer was to discover new stuff and get music you wouldnt find in the store. Something that is getting harder and harder, and will just get harder when kazza go down. p2p is going downhill. Sad.


you are a moron. try soulseek/dc/specialty bt sites if you want rare stuff. Kazza has nothing rare.

[angryasian]

soulseek is great for rare music

[goldcomet]

BearShare is looking great these days. I've been able to find alot more stuff on BearShare than Edonkey and sometimes even Kazaa. And I was able to find alot of Metaphysical Sanskrit music on BearShare like Krishna Das - Hanuman Chaleesa. Don't get me wrong I love my Blink 182, Nickelback, Feeder, and more. And Kazaa still has alot of good Alt Rock. But I'd not diss BearShare if I were you. In fact I preach about it in the Yahoo Chat rooms and make sure my friends use BearShare Pro with no spyware.

The reason that Fast Track is comming alive is because of programs like Imesh Lite and Xolox that use multi networks. Don't forget (Caugh caugh) Morpheus. With that said you can find alot more files and users on Fast Track and Gnutilla.

[Nolanistic]

^ Gnutella really annoys me because of all the Spiders. The network that's really amazing me nowadays is OpenFT. It only has something like 10,000 users, but the majority of them are on extraordinarily high uplink connections and they all share. Well, all except for the Kceasy guys. I've always found it funny that Windows guys don't share but Linux guys do. < Don't take that as an all-encompassing statement, let me reiterate. Windows 'n00bs' rarely, if ever share (Or if they do it's low quality 128kbit MP3 files, and that's inadvertantly)