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mcovey
August 15th, 2004, 06:57 PM
I have an archos jukebox 20 mp3 player that ive had for over 2 years.

I use it for backing up my hard drive when i reinstall.

I just reinstalled today and now when I try to copy data it gets partway thru then I can hear the drive click and die, and then restart, and the copy resumes. It does this a few times then I get the error "Cyclic redundancy check".

Needless to say I'll never be trusting my data to this device again, but can someone help me get my 2+ GB of music and data from it?

if I hold it real close to my ear i can hear it making a noise, then crapping out, then doing it again, very quietly (its loud reading nd writing).

:shootfujitsu hard drives

Mels_Smileys45
August 15th, 2004, 07:04 PM
Yikes! This is happening with a external harddrive of mine. Some times I try holding it at different possitions to get it to boot or flip it upside down.

FrozenShadow23
August 15th, 2004, 07:13 PM
From my experience with CRC errors, you're screwed. I'm sorry. My understanding of a CRC (Cyclic Redundancy Check), is that the file system says a file is somewhere, but it's not, and there's an alias instead that points back to the origional instructions. Bad explination, but basically, it's a recursive loop, meaning that it doesn't end. I might be wrong, but this is what I've read. It's happened to me with CD-R's of mine and I've yet to be successful in recovering from such an error. Good luck, I think you'll need it, but don't give up just yet, there's smarter people on ZP than I, and they might be able to help you.

IF you don't recieve more info, a last ditch effort would be to reformat the MP3 drive so that you can use it again later. Total loss of info, but at least it'll be useful again, but I suggest you wait for a bit and look for more information, maybe check out the forums or support section on the vendor/creator's webpage.

mcovey
August 15th, 2004, 07:44 PM
as long as i kept unplugging it it worked for about 30 secs, then died. I plugged it in and raced to transfer all the music i paid for, and wrote down the rest. I only lost about 1/4 of the stuff, most of which was expendable anyways. The hard drive isnt even detected now. I opened it up and tightened the hard drives connection with the plug, and pushed down any connections, but it's long gone. Thank God I got the most important stuff though. My warranty lasted 2 years I think, which I'm 3 months over, so at least it led a long, happy life.

I'm going to get a new one sometime, but until then it's CD-RWs.

CCSDUDE
August 15th, 2004, 07:45 PM
Have you been through any extreme temp changes since it started?

A clicking sound doesn't automatically mean the drive is totally fucked...

CRC checks and CRC failures just mean it's having problems reading data...could be a trashed disk or head...could just be a miscalibration based on temps or humind conditions...

Try checking it out at different everyday temps...if you hear clicking every time then it's probably fucked....

Google up some CDR/HD recovery software and see if that works before you go wiping it all out...and crying... :P

mcovey
August 15th, 2004, 07:54 PM
Have you been through any extreme temp changes since it started?

A clicking sound doesn't automatically mean the drive is totally fucked...

CRC checks and CRC failures just mean it's having problems reading data...could be a trashed disk or head...could just be a miscalibration based on temps or humind conditions...

Try checking it out at different everyday temps...if you hear clicking every time then it's probably fucked....

Google up some CDR/HD recovery software and see if that works before you go wiping it all out...and crying... :P

its dead. it worked about 45 mins before when i backed up windows to begin the reinstall.

oh by the way i was reinstalling because quintessential player SClister stopped working... and after a reinstall it STILL DOESNT. :-(

but anyways I lost a lot of popular music that had a lot of uploads, so it should be easy to get back. I made sure to get the rare stuff and paid stuff off it first.

CCSDUDE
August 15th, 2004, 08:17 PM
Well you can replace the drive if you've already busted it open. So it's not a total loss.

I really gotta start actually hitting post after I quote...not 30 or 40 minutes later after cooking and doing a bunch of shit. lol

Mels_Smileys45
August 15th, 2004, 08:25 PM
You can always do the switcharoo. Go buy a new one, stick the old one in the new box, return for you money back because it doesnt work.

FrozenShadow23
August 16th, 2004, 12:14 AM
That is actually the best idea I've heard today Mels_Smileys45, damn cool.

Are you sure you can't reformat the HD from your comp mcovey? Seems like it should be able to, but sometimes my logic fails when it comes to computers.

charlesmelissa
August 16th, 2004, 12:41 AM
I have an Archos JBM 20 gig. Just wondering if it will play music when it is not connected to the computer? The Archos's are sensitive when they are used on a USB port. I found the best way was to turn the drive on and reboot your computer, then windows can assign it a drive letter on startup if you are going to do a lot of read/writes to the Archos (500megs or more). When I plugged my Archos in to the USB 2.0 port to write over 500 megs, it conflicted with an external HP DVD 300e writer after about 500 megs. I started moving everything to my computer to recode then moved it back.

CCSDUDE
August 16th, 2004, 04:20 AM
You can always do the switcharoo. Go buy a new one, stick the old one in the new box, return for you money back because it doesnt work.
Tisk tisk....thats dishonest and he could get into some shit for it...but he's not an adult yet so fuck it.

RMA all the shit you break while your at it... :P

Mels_Smileys45
August 16th, 2004, 04:28 AM
Oh come on, us filesharers dont have many ethics anyway! lol
If it you can do it at wal-mart you have nothing to worry about. Believe me, its been done many times.

CCSDUDE
August 16th, 2004, 06:22 AM
Oh come on, us filesharers dont have many ethics anyway! lol
If it you can do it at wal-mart you have nothing to worry about. Believe me, its been done many times.
Walmart you say? Ah....I assumed he picked it up at some small mom & pop place. Fucking over small biz is 'whack'.

Walmart on the other hand....STEAL outright from them if possible. I HATE Walmart with a passion.... they pg up R movies and fuck up cds no one will ever spend money on unless they're tricked into buying the stupid moral clean version they stock.

The only decent thing about that crap hole is the eye candy... and I'm not talking about the 3 toed hicks....

FrozenShadow23
August 16th, 2004, 11:50 AM
Ya, I wouldn't screw over smaller stores, but bigger ones are fair game in my opinion. They'll steal more than any of us ever will.