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wilecyote
May 7th, 2002, 05:47 AM
id like to know what some of the opinions of private and encrypted net works im about to put up a download server online im an avid fan of gnutella but im afraid to put up 300gbs of files that may or may not be copyrighted ive already received stop activities letter to my isp i want to continue p2p but i dont like the flack ill catch if i do im considering freenet and filetopia and elfnet
what are other options?:cross
Raztro
November 2nd, 2002, 01:06 PM
use filetopia! it's really great!
Sephiroth
November 2nd, 2002, 01:28 PM
Then put up other files.. Look its this simple.. If others can upload off of you then ANYONE can. Doesnt matter who they are. The interent and p2p isnt meant for people to "hide" on.
Encryption secures transferring files. The trade groups scans at least right now the files being offered not the ones being transferred..
Ip masquerating if it even help as all will go slow because other people are most likely to be using that same address and so it will take forever and it is not efficient enough.
I havent had a file start transferring on filetopia ever and its still a small p2p network that is why none of the tradegroups havent done anything to it because its so small and inefficent its not worth it just like its not worth using by many users because its not easy and its not that realible.
gorphon
November 3rd, 2002, 12:37 PM
ars technica privacy faq (http://arstechnica.infopop.net/OpenTopic/page?a=tpc&s=50009562&f=174096756&m=3250941235&r=7990931235#7990931235)
I posted this here once before somewhere.. I dont remember where. its a pretty indepth introduction to how best to encrypt your sensitive data and ways to hepl ensure privacy on the internet... he does not mention p2p anywhere but I believe some of the near real time encryption speeds (the blowfish template is supposed to encrypt/decrypt on the fly, at least on the drive) could soon be used realistically across a network. The files would just have to be encrypted speedily- a few second difference wouldnt be that big a deal- before being sent out....
my understanding of filetopia is that it encrypts the signal, instead, why not encrypt the actual file on the ? with the latest advances in pc hardware coming out, I just cant see it being much longer before this is a viable possibility.
Jowls
November 9th, 2002, 07:13 AM
I got one of them nasty letters from a lawyer too. Didnt get kicked off completely, but my ISP put me on a so called "observation list". Dunno what exacly that means, but I'm not sharing anything for the moment.
I've checked out Freenet, and I have to admit that it is a brilliant concept, probably the internet of the future. But right now it is too slow for serious P2P use. But Ian Clarke is right - we gotta lose the IP-address.
Both Kazaa, Gnutella and Direct Connect gives away your IP meaning that they might as well show your name, address and phone number.
I think that Napster had the idea - with using aliasses instead of IP's. The only problem being, that the cross-reference system was on their server and could be seized by the lawyer-gangs.
If somebody could come up with a way to keep a cross reference table in a totally in-acessable place, the Napster model could be the way of doing truly anonymous file sharing.
I have been thinking a lot about these things, since I got that letter.... :-)
regards,
Jowls
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