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miss_silver
August 7th, 2004, 08:19 AM
Hi

Recently dl a big file, more than 8 gig. Those files are DVD images, 2 of them zipped. The problem comes at the end of the very long unzipping session, where a message pops up saying ''Access refused, Write error : only NTFS file system supports files larger than 4 GB''

Strange that i'm able to download more than 8 gig but can't unzip those 4 gig files. Any thoughts on this mystery?

Thanks

BTW, i'm running window Me.

miss_silver
August 7th, 2004, 08:31 AM
Yes I do, more than 20 gig. Tried several times unzipping those folders but no luck :o(

YWD67
August 7th, 2004, 08:34 AM
Hi

Recently dl a big file, more than 8 gig. Those files are DVD images, 2 of them zipped. The problem comes at the end of the very long unzipping session, where a message pops up saying ''Access refused, Write error : only NTFS file system supports files larger than 4 GB''

Strange that i'm able to download more than 8 gig but can't unzip those 4 gig files. Any thoughts on this mystery?

Thanks

BTW, i'm running window Me.

NTFS systems supported by XP and 2000 only I bleive.

YWD67
August 7th, 2004, 08:39 AM
Yes I do, more than 20 gig. Tried several times unzipping those folders but no luck :o(

Found this at ntfs.com:

NTFS Boot Disk NTFS Reader for DOS

NTFS GENERAL INFORMATION
Data Recovery Software
QUESTIONS & ANSWERS






NTFS - New Technology File System
designed for Windows NT, 2000, XP
NTFS is a high-performance and self-healing file system proprietary to Windows XP 2000 NT, which supports file-level security, compression and auditing. It also supports large volumes and powerful storage solution such as RAID.
The most important new feature of NTFS is the ability to encrypt files and folders to protect your sensitive data.


according to the above your Windows ME may not support it, sorry.

miss_silver
August 7th, 2004, 08:45 AM
NTFS systems supported by XP and 2000 only I bleive.

So i've been told YWD67, don't mind switching operating system, but I was also told, not to convert to NTFS for reasons that, something about not being able to reboot under dos?

YWD67
August 7th, 2004, 09:07 AM
So i've been told YWD67, don't mind switching operating system, but I was also told, not to convert to NTFS for reasons that, something about not being able to reboot under dos?

I have always had XP and never dealt with an ME system so I really cant tell you. I have read several threads here where people have attempted to switch operating systems and had nothing but problems after words.
Hopefully someone with a hell of a lot more insight into the WIndows operating system then me will come up and offer a better solution.

Miniver
August 7th, 2004, 09:43 AM
So i've been told YWD67, don't mind switching operating system, but I was also told, not to convert to NTFS for reasons that, something about not being able to reboot under dos?
Dos doesn't exist on xp, 2000, or 2003. You can't boot to dos. I think you are screwed unless you have a friend who can extract and burn them for you.

Miniver
August 7th, 2004, 09:46 AM
You could set up your computer as a dual boot system, but only if you have 2 drives so that you can keep one FAT for Millenium Edition. Your NTFS drive will be inaccessible from ME though.

YWD67
August 7th, 2004, 10:18 AM
I knew you would come to the rescue Miniver.

miss_silver
August 7th, 2004, 10:25 AM
Many thanks YWD67 for the NTSF info :o)


Dos doesn't exist on xp, 2000, or 2003. You can't boot to dos. I think you are screwed unless you have a friend who can extract and burn them for you.

Miniver, you're right, i'm screwed but only about the unzipping. For burning, i'm ok. i've ripped only one dvd so far but even tho the initial rip was well above 7GB, I had no such gig limitation problems, no message telling me that I can't rip past 4 GB. Also downloaded files that were unzipped, past 4 GB and they burnt well. Maybe it's a winrar issue?

I just don't get why, those files won't unzip !?!

ducttapeBigSexy
August 7th, 2004, 11:00 AM
When you rip a DVD (well, at least unencoding it) they're all split into smaller, 1 GB files, which connect to form the whole movie. The FAT32 file system, used on any partition larger then 2 GB on Win 98, ME, and possibly XP, cannot have a file larger then 4 GB. The only solution is to upgrade to Win 2000 or XP and have a partition formatted with NTFS (New Technology File System). If I'm not mistaken, there's no file size limit under NTFS.

If you don't want to lose your FAT32 partition (I don't, for example, because I dual boot with Linux and I need to be able to read and write to my Windows partition), get another hard drive or partition your drive, one with FAT32, and another with NTFS. If you don't feel like a reinstall, Partition Magic (apparently now owned by Symantec - http://www.symantec.com/partitionmagic/ ) will allow you do change your drives.

miss_silver
August 7th, 2004, 11:49 AM
When you rip a DVD (well, at least unencoding it) they're all split into smaller, 1 GB files, which connect to form the whole movie. The FAT32 file system, used on any partition larger then 2 GB on Win 98, ME, and possibly XP, cannot have a file larger then 4 GB. The only solution is to upgrade to Win 2000 or XP and have a partition formatted with NTFS (New Technology File System). If I'm not mistaken, there's no file size limit under NTFS.

If you don't want to lose your FAT32 partition (I don't, for example, because I dual boot with Linux and I need to be able to read and write to my Windows partition), get another hard drive or partition your drive, one with FAT32, and another with NTFS. If you don't feel like a reinstall, Partition Magic (apparently now owned by Symantec - http://www.symantec.com/partitionmagic/ ) will allow you do change your drives.

Thanks for the reply ducttapeBigSexy. Like Miniver stated above, I could have 2 operating system on 2 drives. The only bid icky thing is that I won't be able to read the other HD and vice versa wich is a drag. Partition Magic? Could I partition the same drive to have both win Me and win 2000? at this point, i'd almost do anything to burn that movie!

moneoa
August 7th, 2004, 12:00 PM
Thanks for the reply ducttapeBigSexy. Like Miniver stated above, I could have 2 operating system on 2 drives. The only bid icky thing is that I won't be able to read the other HD and vice versa wich is a drag. Partition Magic? Could I partition the same drive to have both win Me and win 2000? at this point, i'd almost do anything to burn that movie!
Honestly Miss Silver
Fat32 is supported less and less. I would almost suggest upgrading to Xp with a clean install and let it set up under NTFS.
All you would need is to back up your important info...
Its more straight forward than partitioning the drive and setting it up to dual boot.
Unless you need fat32 for some reason

miss_silver
August 7th, 2004, 12:21 PM
Honestly Miss Silver
Fat32 is supported less and less. I would almost suggest upgrading to Xp with a clean install and let it set up under NTFS.
All you would need is to back up your important info...
Its more straight forward than partitioning the drive and setting it up to dual boot.
Unless you need fat32 for some reason

Thanks moneoa! Don't think tho I could upgrade to winXP... got a pIII 933 and 256 rams, heard to make xp work decently, one needed 512 rams. Guess window 2000 would be a better option.

Don't think I really need fat 32, never understood those terms anyway (greatly embarassed) I knew that under win95 it was a 16 fat, under win 98 it was/is a 32 fat.... I'm so dumb when it comes to tech talk! One of my friend really scared me by telling me in no way I should format in NTFS, unless I liked more pc problems!

moneoa
August 7th, 2004, 01:02 PM
Thanks moneoa! Don't think tho I could upgrade to winXP... got a pIII 933 and 256 rams, heard to make xp work decently, one needed 512 rams. Guess window 2000 would be a better option.

Don't think I really need fat 32, never understood those terms anyway (greatly embarassed) I knew that under win95 it was a 16 fat, under win 98 it was/is a 32 fat.... I'm so dumb when it comes to tech talk! One of my friend really scared me by telling me in no way I should format in NTFS, unless I liked more pc problems!
Believe it or not the problems with NTFS are usually compatability probs with Fat lol
(one of them being people usually install Xp but keep the underlying Fat32 structure)
If os upgrade was your option I would say Windows 2000, clean install, NTFS.
With a back up of important files on disk.
Then you just put your software on and replace the important files.
Your computer should be happy running nice after the clean install and
you can now have files over 4 gigs :upside

Edit: for example I have owned a Laptop for a year and it is Xp with NTFS but it still runs like a baby.
Its not all that bad a file structure

Miniver
August 7th, 2004, 01:30 PM
You are screwed with the burning as well because, from what I understand, these are .img files and not video_ts folders.

My second box (the downloading workhorse) runs xp on a 700mhz p3 processor and only one stick of 256 ram you shouldn't have any trouble running xp. You will have a higher memory load to begin with but so long as you don't need to run memory intensive applications it shouldn't be too much of an issue. Besides, memory is cheap now, you could pick up another stick for 40-50 bucks or less.

Both of my machines drives were converted directly from FAT to NTFS with all data still on them when I upgraded to xp. I had no issues. The ability to store larger files alone, for video capture and dvd images, makes it worthwhile. Also, NTFS allows you to set compression on individual folders or entire drives without having to zip/unzip to access them.

Your friend has no idea what he/she is talking about. If anything NTFS is more stable and useful than FAT, why do you think the switch was made.

Once Longhorn is released with its new WinFS system we'll have to do this all over again.

DTBS, I believe the theoretical limit is in the multi-terabyte range.

origin
August 7th, 2004, 07:22 PM
winrar (http://www.rarlab.com/)

l8

ferrarimodena360
August 7th, 2004, 10:03 PM
you dont need to format to convert a fat32 to ntfs, it can be done easily, google it.

just convert fat32 to ntfs, and u will be able to unzip...

but i recommend fat32, as if ur comp crashes, and u boot from 98 or some other startup disc, an ntfs partition wont even show up, u will have to make the hdd a slave and do something bout it....sadly u can convert ntfs to fat32 only by formatting

http://aumha.org/win5/a/ntfscvt.php