I'm in trouble!!!!

[holdemillhitem]

I just got the dreaded email from my ISP today. Apparently, I was sharing some copyrighted material (movies). I'm using emule and have been connecting to both ed2k and kad. I got nailed on ed2k. I quit sharing the files in question and have switched to kad only. How safe do you recon I am?

[evilmegaman]

I am sure you are at basically the exact same risk level. I am certain that kad has nothing to prevent RIAA from finding you.

[shawners]

Dont share copyright material!!! PERIOD!! That goes with movies only though. There anal, Share music, but not quantities. Share a folder or two.. THere not going to bust you but the movie industry could get your cable/dsl turned off.!!!

[mountain_rage]

Movies are fine if you don't have anal isp, mine hasn't complained yet, although I also live in canada.

[holdemillhitem]

The infraction was on ed2k, though. That's where they're watching me. If I only use kad, which I've done until recently, it would stand to reason that they may not be watching for me there. Is this thinking flawed? BTW, I'd already moved most of the files in question before I got the email. The others were part files and I've moved them and anything else that might be questionable for now. Also, I'm a mighty big cable customer. They don't want to loose me and I have other options.

[shawners]

Movies are fine if you don't have anal isp, mine hasn't complained yet, although I also live in canada.

It dosent matter if you have an anal isp. They will send out the letters to the companies, and the companies will have to give out a letter of warning and fall through on it. They give the isp number, time, the file that was found, what program was running. And they check their log books saying, yeah that user was connected to so and so at that time, and its that number. and send the warning out. Regardless, if you do it again and they get another letter.. You could lose your service.

[MalikCash]

Companies are on FastTrack and ED2K.

[CyRaX]

Does it mater where you live? I live in Canada.

[mcovey]

movies are at blockbuster. bring a gun and a mask and theyre free there too, same risk as p2p.

[Malakai1911]

movies are at blockbuster. bring a gun and a mask and theyre free there too, same risk as p2p.
Or a razor blade, no mask. You wouldnt even need to talk to people up front. That'd prolly be the same risk as p2p. :-P

[Mels_Smileys45]

You guys talk like P2P is stealing or something. I don't need a gun or a razor to get me wares, I just need to pay my high ass ISP bill every month. Broadband is useless except to get free stuff and play games. If ISPs mess with people too much they'll lose all their clients.

[simon_says_horrible]

probably they're dealing with MPAA/RIAA... change yur ISP might help.

[goNucks]

Whats the worse that happens, ISP bans your? or will the corporate companies come to sue o.o

[begoodbebad]

The infraction was on ed2k, though. That's where they're watching me. If I only use kad, which I've done until recently, it would stand to reason that they may not be watching for me there. Is this thinking flawed? . Also, I'm a mighty big cable customer. They don't want to loose me and I have other options.

Yes your thinking is flawed. You are exactly as visible using kad as using ed2k servers. The servers refer clients to other clients who hold files. With kad clients refer other clients to the clients holding the desired files. The same people and the same files and the same activities are equally visible. Otherwise it wouldn't work would it!
And if you are a home user you are not "a mighty big cable customer". Which ISP could actually give a shit about your 30 bucks a month? If the choice is between ending your service or paying the their legal dept to write a letter to a copyright holder they will cut you before you can blink. OK if you're the CEO of Exxon I'm wrong but probably you're not a bigshot and you are paranoid, no one is watching you, they're watching files being copied. Basically they don't give a shit who you are so long as you stop copying their copyrighted works.

[holdemillhitem]

Which ISP could actually give a shit about your 30 bucks a month?

Try $250 bucks a month. I've got a HDTV/DVR hookup, plus 4 other TV connections, two phone lines, and the internet. I get two calls a week from their competition. I instantly deleted the files in question. They were only partial files I was trying to d/l. Most everything copyrighted that I was trying to d/l is available to me on Showtime or HBO or the several other premium channels I subscribe to. I can copy them with my DVR, but I can only view them on one TV. I often purchase DVDs, but I have issues with Blockbuster who have managed to run all the local rental stores out of business.

I'm not paranoid, I just don't want to go thru the trouble of switching ( or modifying my behavior) ISPs. To rephrase my question, has anyone else been contacted about sharing on ED2K? Has anyone been contacted about sharing on KAD?

[begoodbebad]

Try $250 bucks a month. I've got a HDTV/DVR hookup, plus 4 other TV connections, two phone lines, and the internet. I get two calls a week from their competition.


what are those tasty little things that go great with beer? Oh yeah, peanuts. :upside

[Travis982]

Install Wi-Fi (if you don't have it already).
Tell your ISP you have no such files on your computer and never had. Tell them they are in error.
If they persist, claim you have noticed activity on your Wi-Fi that may be war drivers in your neighbourhood, but of course you can't be responsible for their actions and you are not going to dismantle your system to please some low-life movie studio.
Any further persistence should be met with subtle threats of legal action.
Needless to say, if it gets this far you should wipe your drives and re-install everything (except P2P stuff). BTW don't just wipe, write 0's to all sectors. Takes some time but erases everything.

[holdemillhitem]

begoodbebad,

You mean the cable co. won't go out of business if they loose my account? They will feel it, if 50 customers like me are cut off. I have complied to the letter with what they wanted me to do ands informed them of it. They thanked me profusely. I have also stopped using the ED2K network. My question remains "Has anyone gotten a letter for using the KAD network?"

[ShawnD]

holdem, the answer is that you are not safe on just Kad. Here's an example of why it doesn't matter.
Suppose you are sharing a movie. User A on both the Kad and eD2K networks starts downloading from you. User B is trying to download the same file, but is only connected to the eD2K network, so he can't directly find you. User B finds User A as a source (because they're both on eD2K) and requests a list of User A's sources. User A sends a list of sources to User B, and you are included in this list. User B starts to download from you; you are listed as Source Exchange in his download list.

Either connect to both networks or stay off both networks. Sticking to just one network will not help you.

[my name]

move out of the us, return when that country is back again of the people. currently its owned by wallstreet.

[EmuleUser]

I have two questions about this:

1. What if you are downloading pornographic movies from eDonkey or Kazaa which are from porn paysites? Is this being watched and clamped down on? As serious?

2. Does this mean ISPs monitor what their customers do? I would have thought that is invasion of privacy. How do they handle monitoring so many users?