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Nintendoid
July 21st, 2004, 01:22 PM
OK, I've come here prepared. I've read every FAQ there is about Bittorent and my client, Azureus. I've followed the advice of the Zeropaid Bittorrent guru's. So why are my downloads slow? This isn't a regular 'n00b needs help cause he forgot to search first'-thread.

I've already thried the following:

Opened up ports 6881 to 6991, well, I didn't completly opened them (I'm paranoid), I permitted Norton Internet Security Professional 2004 to allow Azureus to use those ports for TPC/UDP in and out communication, or isn't that the same as opening them?

I've set the upload limiter to the recommended percentage of my upload bandwith (70 percent) which rounds down to 44.

Yes, I have a new Ethernet DSL modem, which is also a NAT (all new ones are NAT's). I've checked it's port forwarding and port 6881 is already forwarded. Or should I forward the entire range of 6881-6991? (please say no, I can't forawrd a whole range in one go, you have to do it one at the time).

The Windows XP firewall is off. (checked it, it's still off and hasn't turned itself on behind my back)

Just added my internal IP address to the 'trusted' list in Norton. I got one or two 'intrusion attempts from it, and that can't be cause it's the pc itself'. So that's fixed, but I'm still not seeing high speeds.

What it all comes down to is to ask you what is a resonable download speed for a 1024/512 DSL connection. You all say you have downs of 300kb but that must be cause of your big 8Mb connection, right? I've got ONE download right when I first started using Azureus that downloaded at the expected 100Kb. Now the highest I'm getting is an avarage of 22Kb.

Also, when I look at the amount of peers connected, I see there are, lets say, 128 people in the swarm, and I'm only connected to 18! How come?

To make the summery complete: no, I don't have yellow smilies signifying a NAt problem. There all green, but with terribly slow speeds like 20Kb. Putting all other uploads and downloads on hold doesn't really help either (that, and that I feel sorry for those people who suddenly have a drop in download speed themselves because of me stopped uploads).

Could it have somthing to do with the tracker I use? Most of my downs and ups come from Demonoid.com. I can't remember which site I used when I got the 100KB/s download, so it's just a hunch.

Yes, I have Norton Antivirus 2004 Professional, but usully when it tries to scan files it pops up a message. It doesn't do that during download.

I've now limited my upload speed to 33Kb, but that doesn't do very much either.

I've done everything in the guide by Malicious Intent, (very comprehensive, good job man) but my downloads are still not quite fast enough. Or am I just expecting to much?

Malakai1911
July 21st, 2004, 04:58 PM
Edit: Do you have a router in addition to the modem?

P.S. Norton blows.

Nintendoid
July 22nd, 2004, 06:35 AM
I think the modem is a router. Does Alcatel Speedtouch 150 ring a bell?

PS: Recommendations for a better antivirus program?

lizardsforall
July 22nd, 2004, 07:04 AM
I'll try to answer some of your questions.
Here's what I have...
Dell Latitude LS (so old it came with NT)
Mandrake linux 10.0
java 1.4.2sdk and 1.5.0 beta2
latest Azureus build
2 different internet connections
-home 1024/768 cable modem - linksys router with azureus range open for all IPs
-work T1 - all ports open above 6000

for azureus you want to open the whole range. the program will try to catch any connection on those ports as far as i know about the java code. as far as the connections, there are connections all over the world, some are too far away to recieve a good connection (other people on shitty connections)
and now for the slow speeds. At home on my modem I will probably get 12 kbs total download (better than my windows server that gets about 2kbps a file on bittornado) when at work I will get high download speeds at around 200-300 kbps. the difference is the type of connection. the t1 line (from the same isp as the home network) is unfiltered up to the firewall and work while the cable modem network has been locked down by my isp for limiting virus and p2p traffic. before the lock down (which occurred durring the blaster and sobig viruses) I was able to download at higher speeds, but now I have to be content with the slower speeds.

PS. I have no virus protection on the windows or laptop and have no need for them. but if i did, i'd use McAfee

Poullos
July 22nd, 2004, 09:32 AM
Azureus needs only one port. To check if its ok, stop your download, and restart azureus running a port check. It should state OK. Now if your ports are filtered by your ISP, I don't know. The best way to find out is to use some of the known ports ISPs don't filter: 80, 21, 22, 25, 443(I don't know if there more). You should get higher speeds with these ports in use but some trackers blck them.

Btw, if you see green smileys and the tracker status is ok, then you shouldn't be facing a NAT problem. Also check the ratio in your in peers/seeds and the size of the file. Large files tend to get lower speeds because they are created in larger pieces size making them more difficult to download ie. a torrent with a dvd-r movie of 4.4 GB will most propably have pieces of 2 mbs. If you devide 4400 by 2 you get 2200 pieces. If the piece size was 256 kbs there would be 17600 pieces. Not to mention that large files get slower speeds also because fewer people download them and seeds are very few.

To conclude, try different torrents just to see if it works.
Don't forget to share...

freefalling
July 25th, 2004, 10:49 AM
I get the same problem - also have a adsl CONNECTION BUT ONLY AVERAGING AT at about 20kB. At this rate I'll have Spidey 2 next week if i am lucky!

Betamax
July 25th, 2004, 02:44 PM
If your ISP is blocking ports then use thsi solution from torrentbits:

"TorrentBits does not allow clients to use ports commonly associated with p2p protocols. The reason for this is that it is a common practice for ISPs to throttle those ports (that is, limit the bandwidth, hence the speed).

The blocked ports list include, but is not necessarily limited to, the following:


Direct Connect
411 - 413
Kazaa
1214
eDonkey
4662
Gnutella
6346 - 6347
BitTorrent
6881 - 6889

In order to use use our tracker you must configure your client to use any port range that does not contain those ports (a range within the region 49152 through 65535 is preferable, cf. IANA). Notice that some clients, like Azureus 2.0.7.0 or higher, use a single port for all torrents, while most others use one port per open torrent. The size of the range you choose should take this into account (typically less than 10 ports wide. There is no benefit whatsoever in choosing a wide range, and there are possible security implications).

These ports are used for connections between peers, not client to tracker. Therefore this change will not interfere with your ability to use other trackers (in fact it should increase your speed with torrents from any tracker, not just ours). Your client will also still be able to connect to peers that are using the standard ports. If your client does not allow custom ports to be used, you will have to switch to one that does.

Do not ask us, or in the forums, which ports you should choose. The more random the choice is the harder it will be for ISPs to catch on to us and start limiting speeds on the ports we use. If we simply define another range ISPs will start throttling that range also.

Finally, remember to forward the chosen ports in your router and/or open them in your firewall, should you have them. See the Why am I listed as not connectable? section and links therein for more information on this."

http://www.torrentbits.org/faq.php

freefalling
July 25th, 2004, 10:17 PM
Should I try to open new ports even though i don't have a firewall or proxy connection. Will that make my speeds faster?