Nero/Dart Pro

[Lenin1928]

Was reading through a discription of Dart Pro and it mentioned its ability to record audio cd's to the Redbook standard, I was wondering does Nero have the same ability to create audio cds that are playable on all cd players?

I currently have Nero and all adds on possible, and I would fear having to switch.

[notbob]

fear this--dartpro costs 400 bucks

[Lenin1928]

I don't work with demos or trial software, I only have full versions of everything I own, I can more then afford Dart Pro.

[notbob]

its an ok program, not any better than nero, though

[Lenin1928]

Did a little research and discovered, that DAO Disk At Once mode which is available on Nero full satisfies the requirments of IEC 908 which is Redbook, meaning it will play on any CD player, as long as you create an image first then burn.

TAO Track At Once comes close but misses the mark,
it should play on any CD player from post 1988.

[Rickio]

Fireburner is very good and to me it is not cost that I look at but quality.
You may be surprised how good a audio cd will sound after using Fireburner.
At least for me compared to Nero, fireburner burns fast and is very efficient and sounds crisp and clear.
Try it and see. It is a small one file app. (very well coded) they give you a free trial use. After you use it a few times you can decide.

I do feel it is best for audio cd's. Now other may be better at other aspects of burning, but audio, bin/cue and iso files. Fireburners is very, very good.

[Lenin1928]

I will give it a try, although you are aware Nero has filters you can put on the audio tracks to improve quality, for example you can boost the sound of the CD on stereo devices.

[Lenin1928]

Checked it out, seems the same I don't know what advantages you can get because its based on Borland Delphi. Well the size is always a plus.

Other then that, I'm using Clone CD to create copies Monkey Audio to manage my music and Nero to burn with.

[Rickio]

I simply found nero to be slow and using filers made it slower. But I download only high bitrate mp3's and don't tend to need to use any filters.

You might like the new NeroMix, it is about the same but adds the feature of buring your titles onto audio cd's and you can fade tracks into each other if you wish for a dj or smooth transitions.

If I need to work on a mp3 file I use fuerio which is actully made by ahead, same as nero. But seems faster to me.

feurio is also no restrictions trialware. No time limits. Just a nag screen. But it is just a bit quicker for me.

I am surprised you do not note any differance, and I actually don't think I have good ears! :-)

what media do you use?
It's generally accepted that taiyo yuden makes the best cd's and fuji film cd-r's are made by taiyo yuden. other manufacturers also use taiyo yuden but you need to read the atip to find out most times.
you can read that info with a utitilty like EAC's cd burning mode under tools.
other manufacters like memorex are sometimes taiyo yuden but only way to know is to read the atip as I mentioned
I can hear the differance with the media and with the app that burns the cd. I am not a audiophile , I am not that dedicated. But will use a bit of effort if it is no big deal, to get good quality.

[Lenin1928]

I didn't actually burn useing fireburner I compared specs on both, just to see if there was an actual difference. You see I am very picky about what goes on my system, I hate having all sorts of applications and programs, I'd rather have it down to a science on what I need and that is having the best. Usually everyone defends their choice of program, "it does this it does that better" I'd rather know for sure.

But, I am going to give it a try, I only want the best for my audio burns.

And yes, I have feurio, don't have nero mix,YET, but I'm not sure if its usefull to me. I also noticed that as well about Fuji film and taiyo yuden media in general, I always thought before I was able to look at overburning statistics that Fuji film was just another CDR like any other, I have been using CMC Magnetics media for the time being.

[Rickio]

There are 2 types of cd'r media.
cyanine and phthalocyanine, also called write strategy.

cyanine was developed by taiyo yuden and is considered best quality.
phthalocyanine has become most used however and it is considered to be a longer lasting media.

but between both types, I would rather take care of my media and have better quality.

here is a utility that reads the atip on most cd-r's. some manufacturers do not write to the atip, usually those are lower quality.

also here is a website where I either gleaned some of this info from or followed links from their. check out their forum.

http://www.cd-rw.org/

[Lenin1928]

Checked out their webpage which was down, ( I got the specs on another webpage) then I checked around in some forms it seems Fireburner is very umcompaitable with XP with consistant problems, I'm running XP pro any suggestions?

[Rickio]

best wait till fireburners webpage is back up so you can confirm
but the newer version does work with xp.

I am not using xp and I do not clearly remember the exact details of what I have read. But I remember clearly fireburner does now work with xp.