View Full Version : New Sceenshots of the new Blubster/piolet with Encryption!
View Full Version : New Sceenshots of the new Blubster/piolet with Encryption!
Christoph
June 22nd, 2004, 04:50 AM
http://fileshareworld.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/piolet18-1.jpg http://fileshareworld.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/piolet18-2.jpg
made by Tom on the p2pforums.com...
you can see what will come :)
tamarisk
June 22nd, 2004, 05:43 AM
What use is encryption for?
mcovey
June 22nd, 2004, 06:44 AM
What use is encryption for?
nobody can see what you're transferring if it's encrypted. Unless they run a brute force password cracker or guess it.
eivioolla
June 22nd, 2004, 07:41 AM
nobody can see what you're transferring if it's encrypted.
Except the other end of the transfer of course (like the RIAA etc).
mcovey
June 22nd, 2004, 07:57 AM
well they'd need a password, so they wouldnt be able to unencrypt it. I suppose this isnt foolproof encryption but it's safer. I dont think that the people at RIAA are going to bother cracking a password, there are plenty of other people out there who dont encrypt their files.. like me.
eivioolla
June 22nd, 2004, 08:38 AM
well they'd need a password, so they wouldnt be able to unencrypt it. I suppose this isnt foolproof encryption but it's safer. I dont think that the people at RIAA are going to bother cracking a password, there are plenty of other people out there who dont encrypt their files.. like me.
No they wouldn't. You don't need a password to decrypt your downloads, they are just transferred over an encrypted link and the encryption and decryption processes are automated. What would be the point of sharing password protected files, what is anyone going to do with them if they can't decrypt them.
ducttapeBigSexy
June 22nd, 2004, 08:38 AM
Well, of course the RIAA can see it, but for people on networks, such as college or business networks, the IT department can't see what's being downloaded on it
eivioolla
June 22nd, 2004, 08:42 AM
Well, of course the RIAA can see it, but for people on networks, such as college or business networks, the IT department can't see what's being downloaded on it
..unless they use man-in-the-middle attack so they can decrypt it easily, especially if it's standard SSL protocol so there's existing tools for it.
Psilaxs
June 22nd, 2004, 09:17 AM
I love Pablo and appreciate all the work he has done to reinvigorate MP3 only sharing, but this is such a huge gimmick.
Ken17625
June 22nd, 2004, 10:11 AM
This is like making it appear to be what everyone wants and craves, but it really isn't.
It may make the novice and simple-minded believe they are safe though.
That's dangerous.
tackdaddy
June 22nd, 2004, 10:14 AM
is this out yet?if it is provide a link.
eivioolla
June 22nd, 2004, 10:48 AM
This is like making it appear to be what everyone wants and craves, but it really isn't.
It may make the novice and simple-minded believe they are safe though.
That's dangerous.
Yep, purposefully creating false sense of security is wrong. Encryption is nice but does not solve the main problems and risks in filesharing.
Christoph
June 22nd, 2004, 11:00 AM
is this out yet?if it is provide a link.
there will be an open beta soon
alliercollins
June 22nd, 2004, 11:45 AM
This is like making it appear to be what everyone wants and craves, but it really isn't.
It may make the novice and simple-minded believe they are safe though.
That's dangerous.
That is absolutely true. The only really good benefit that can come from all of this is maybe the network will finally start growing again with a new client out. Of course, people will need to be educated on the risks the same way we educate them not to use Kazaa.
Ambush
June 23rd, 2004, 12:37 PM
Hope there is a clean version. Also this program needs some authenticity rating for files. Its starting to get flooded with fake files.
g0b
June 23rd, 2004, 01:10 PM
Piolet will be clean. No ads or spyware.
Ticalrida
July 7th, 2004, 07:38 AM
well if the RIAA can see whats the use?
meyou123
July 7th, 2004, 09:46 AM
well if the RIAA can see whats the use?
The only use I can see for encryption, is that administrators of networks on college campuses can't see what is being transferred. But when it comes down to it, it basically works like this, someone requests a file which is then encrypted before it is sent to a particular user, then it is sent over the net encrypted and the software on the recieving computer decrypts the file. The TROUBLE with it, is that if the person requesting the file works for the RIAA, MPAA,etc. then you are still screwed.
You can change, hide, do whatever you want to a file, but no amount of encryption is going to stop someone working for the RIAA,MPAA,etc. from downloading what you are uploading. Computers and software do not have the ability to know WHO is requesting a file. Therefore, to say a file is encrypted, therefore it is totally safe is a false assumption. But it can help hide a file while it is being transferred on the net, of course, that depends largely on how strong the encryption is. It just puts a thorn in the side of the people that work for the RIAA and MPAA by making identification of a particular file a little bit harder. Basically it comes down to this, if you fileshare, you take your chances no matter how much the threat of being sued is reduced.
JiMiThInG
July 16th, 2004, 10:55 AM
Yep unless someone can get something like a freenet type system to work well enough that it would be a viable file sharing app...
shawners
July 16th, 2004, 12:20 PM
ITs still utterly stupid, the riaa can still track you down. They will get online, get the filesharing up.. Search the networks and see the same files we see.. then do a trace to find their ip address or proxy server.. and locate you. Even if they dont find you, they can contact all the ISP's and do a block on using that server. It wasnt too hard to block out the little island off of china that was sharing gigs of music for free. Encryption is only as good on campus, otherwise it really has no bearing or use.