Yahoo Attempts to Counter Google's Gmail

[Lord_of_the_Dense]

Yahoo Attempts to Counter Google's Gmail by Fortifying Service With More Storage

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- Internet giant Yahoo! Inc. is fortifying its free e-mail service with 25 times more storage and freeing up millions of previously claimed e-mail addresses in an effort to thwart a looming threat from its increasingly disruptive rival Google Inc.

Beginning Tuesday, all of Yahoo's free e-mail accounts will be upgraded to 100 megabytes, a move spurred by Google's plans to offer 1,000 megabytes of free storage through its Gmail service, which has remained in a test phase since early April.

Yahoo has been offering 4 megabytes of free e-mail storage, although some people with accounts opened several years ago have 6 megabytes of free storage.

Read entire story here (http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/040615/yahoo_mail_1.html).

[nasrules]

Pah. 100MB. No comparison ;)

And it's Google!

[alliercollins]

i was happy with 4 when they had free pop access. After they discontinued it, instead of just using yahoo pops, I pretty much gave up on them and just registered a bunch of domains and ran my own mail server. I still log in once in a while though to check my spam accumulation.

I'll be second in line for a gmail account, first will be my mother who calls me once in a while to check her email for her when she is going to be out of town. She has an addiction to spam lists and freebies, plus a hotmail account, which equals all space taken up after a night of emails, even if you clean it all out. With a gig of space, she will be the happiest woman on the planet.

[Christoph]

1000mb mail plus many more features and there are no ads:
www.youvegotpost.com

[mcovey]

i have plus and just logged in today. I have to say i liked the old interface better. This new one works awful with opera and is plain ugly. 2 gigs of space is nice, as is no ads.

[lizardsforall]

/me streches his arms out of his formerly cramped inbox

Ahh. more space. I reality, I don't need 1gb of space, but 3 mb was just cramped. When someone sends a few pix, you get the red bar and a big bold message saying your over your limit. Now that it's 100 mb... I'll probably still only use 0-1% of the storage space. I doubt I will need to send myself a 700 mb avi file to myself.

[mcovey]

I wonder if the storage is .... i dunno the word

I wonder if they have it so that if you're using 3MB of space, that's all you get until you need more. So if 2 accounts are on a 200MB hard drive and one is using 100MB and the other is using 3MB, there is 97MB free space, or are there partitions (or something like them) so that each account takes up that much space.
Regardless I still think it sucks that it doesnt work good in opera. But gmail doesnt work at ALL in opera.

[Oppressed]

Heres an idea. With 100mb of storage and the ability to send larger files. A Yahoo email account can now be used to share files. All you need is a message board where you request a certain file and post your email address. Hey Zeropaid!!!!! We need a new catergory.

[Lehk]

I wonder if the storage is .... i dunno the word

I wonder if they have it so that if you're using 3MB of space, that's all you get until you need more. So if 2 accounts are on a 200MB hard drive and one is using 100MB and the other is using 3MB, there is 97MB free space, or are there partitions (or something like them) so that each account takes up that much space.
Regardless I still think it sucks that it doesnt work good in opera. But gmail doesnt work at ALL in opera.

exactly, they give out 100 megs for the same reason gmail gives out a gig, very few people will use it, and the data can be compressed.

[mp3master1215]

hmm 100 megs to 1000 there not even close! how can it counter? it cant!

[LordLOC]

1000mb mail plus many more features and there are no ads:
www.youvegotpost.com

They aren't offering 1 GB, they are offering 20 MB now. Originally they offered 1 TB, but there were problems. If you read my neowin thread you'd see what happened. Needless to say I and many others won't be using their service because of what happened.

[camoor]

what is hotmail offering? are they even going to try and catch up?

[DampCold]

mcovey, I am pretty certain they just store all the messages in a database and keep track of the current size and start rejecting messges once the limit is reached. That way they don't waste space by allocating space before it is used.

I think Hotmail is still 2MB and I haven't heard of any plans to increase it. Previously Microsoft was trying to reduce the size to get more people to buy their premium package since they signed an agreement that says they will offer Hotmail for free for life when they bought Hotmail out. Of course with Yahoo increasing the size, they may follow suit.

[lizardsforall]

... Originally they offered 1 TB, but there were problems.

that terabyte was a misprint and google made a statement the said such. they were only offering the gig when they first started.

[LordLOC]

that terabyte was a misprint and google made a statement the said such. they were only offering the gig when they first started.

As I posted in my original Neowin thread, it WAS 1 TB originally.

[DampCold]

So how many years do you think it would take to fill up that much space?

Also, LordLOC, do they limit the max size of an individual email?

[LordLOC]

No no, the limit is now 20 MB on YGP.

Supposedly they will give you more space when needed (they still say it's "unlimited space" increased as needed) but myself, nor others from Neowin will bother with YGP now. So if you want to try it, you can do it, IF you can register an account.

[mcovey]

all of my friends use hotmail, and I tried to convert them to something better. I told them that yahoo had twice the space, wasnt as insecure, not so slow... maybe theyll start listening now that yahoo has 50x their space.
I'll start sending huge attachments to my friends. then they'll complain that i'm clogging their inboxes and I'll say "get yahoo mail, or gmail. they dont suck".
I have a grudge against hotmail.

[MoonMan]

I welcome Yahoo's decision to expand the accounts from 4 megs to 100. Though I mostly use Gmail, I do have a Yahoo account from a few years back.

[lizardsforall]

@lordloc
...
d@mn...

[Christoph]

when can everybody get gmail??? what is the best email service? youvegotpost.com kicked me because I got a 88mb file!!!!
I need a real big accound,spam stopper and not much ads..thats what youvegotpost.com was for many time!please help

[LordLOC]

Gmail should be available for the general public in the summertime, but Google usually takes a long time with their tests.

Aventuremail.com offers 2 GB email, but they only allow about 10,000 sign ups a week.

Yahoo is now 100 MB for the free account, 2 GB for paid account.

www.jlmail.com offers "unlimited" mail, I don't have an account with them, but people on Neowin do and like it.

[Christoph]

jmail.com...well they have a flash animation and music on there startpage and the guy who owns this jmail.com wrote that he is sorry for the crahs some days ago,he tried to watch a dvd movie and the pc crashed!..not very professional..Ill wait for gmail

[nasrules]

As I posted in my original Neowin thread, it WAS 1 TB originally.

No, it wasn't. It was merely a glitch that affected the display in some users' accounts. Nobody ever really had access to 1TB storage.

[Psilaxs]

when can everybody get gmail??? what is the best email service? youvegotpost.com kicked me because I got a 88mb file!!!!
I need a real big accound,spam stopper and not much ads..thats what youvegotpost.com was for many time!please help

yeah youvegotpost is shit, i signed up, got an account, and now it REFUSES to let me log in, and i haven't even given the address out to anyone yet. Very lame.

[DainBramaged]

No, it wasn't. It was merely a glitch that affected the display in some users' accounts. Nobody ever really had access to 1TB storage.
Was just going to say that but you got to it first :-) First thing that jumped out to me too... just a display rounding error, or somesuch.

[tvaddict817]

Heres an idea. With 100mb of storage and the ability to send larger files. A Yahoo email account can now be used to share files. All you need is a message board where you request a certain file and post your email address. Hey Zeropaid!!!!! We need a new catergory.

With Yahoo, you can send up to 10MB at a time so it would work great for MP3s but not much else.

[Psilaxs]

With Yahoo, you can send up to 10MB at a time so it would work great for MP3s but not much else.

thats what rar archive files are for, break it up into 9 meg chunks and away you go.

[LordLOC]

No, it wasn't. It was merely a glitch that affected the display in some users' accounts. Nobody ever really had access to 1TB storage.

It may have been a glitch, but a glitch for 2 days? And a glitch that the person in charge of it said was ok for me to post on another major site, knowing it would bring in a ton of people, right.

LONDON, ENGLAND -- (OfficialWire) -- 06/14/04 -- You've Got Post Limited owner/operator of the popular FreeMail, You've Got Post! who recently launched You've Got Dialup! has endured a harrowing 48 hours at the experienced hands of a number of Internet thugs, lead by a small band of GMail users.

The saga began when a Neowin.net user, who goes by the handles "LOC" and "Lord LOC", requested permission to post a message on the forum about YGP's extraordinary offer. YGP offers unlimited Email storage—a free service, which is not supported by ads but instead relies upon the occasional donation of its users. The message first appeared on the forum's "Back Page News" under the title of "[Screw Gmail, etc etc] Youvegotpost 1 TB Webmail, You heard me right".

Amy Jackson, YGP spokesperson, confirmed: "I authorized the posting, although I didn't know the exact contents before they were published and later, LOC was a little slow in telling me where he had promoted our service. Ironically, he said YGP was offering 1TB of Email storage, when in fact, we offer an unlimited service."

Jackson explained this was because the initial storage level set by their system was 1TB, incremental by 1TB, as space was required by user, as if that wasn't enough!

I won't post the rest of it, but you catch my drift. They DID offer 1TB, whether you had it or not is another story, If they want to offer 20 MB and then increase as needed that's fine, but don't "glitch" offer 1 TB to people and then BAN them when they ask questions about file attachments.

OfficalSpin Article (http://www.officialspin.com/main.php?action=recent&rid=1611)

[gamecock]

With the larger mailbox sizes coming out, what's the possibility of using email to distribute large files similar to the AOL-IRC-Email Method (http://zeropaid.com/news/articles/auto/06092004d.php)?

I know that Yahoo's 100mb still isn't going to do the trick, but Google's (and other services) 1 gig limit would work if they allow 10 mb attachments as well. Actually, Yahoo and it's 100 mb may work well for stuff like albumwraps, music videos or smaller DivX TV show releases.

Say, for example: a group releases a popular TV show each week. Wouldn't it be efficient to have everyone who is part of this group join the same email service. Then just have a mailing list to distribute the show each week. Upload just once and cc the emails to everyone on the list. Include 10mb rars and have par files to eliminate the missing peice problem.

For security, you could password protect/encrypt the rar file and use a generic name for the archive so the email service wouldn't know what the file is. The uploaders could go through AnonX VPN so nothing could get traced back to the uploader.

It would be neat to have mailing lists set up like: "DVD-rip of the day" or "xxx-movie of the day" or "******** TV episode of the week." You could upload a movie a day and send it to everyone who wanted it in one mailing.

Or simply have an IRC chat room and request system set up like the AOL method.

Anyone out there with the knowledge to get something like this going? Will they have something in place to block something like this?

[Lord_of_the_Dense]

thats what rar archive files are for, break it up into 9 meg chunks and away you go.

Heh heh....cool. :black

[Lord_of_the_Dense]

Yahoo bolsters e-mail storage to 1GB

Yahoo on Tuesday said it plans to once again boost its free e-mail storage limit--this time to 1GB, the same amount offered by archrival Google.

Beginning in late April, Yahoo will upgrade free users to the new storage limit of 1GB, up from its current 250MB. The company said it will take about two weeks for all Yahoo Mail users to see the boost.

Yahoo's storage upgrade comes one week after Google started offering Gmail accounts to random visitors of its home page. This has led to heightened speculation in news articles and blogs that Google plans to open Gmail's doors to the public on April 1, a year after it launched in its current test form.

Brad Garlinghouse, Yahoo's vice president of communications products, said in an interview that Yahoo Mail's storage upgrade was not in response to Google's latest moves. Instead, he said Yahoo is "paying attention to what users are doing and how they're using their in-boxes."

Read entire story here (http://news.com.com/Yahoo+bolsters+e-mail+storage+to+1GB/2100-1032_3-5630773.html?tag=nefd.top).

[Auggie2k]

New title for this thread...

EVERYBODY Attempts to Counter Google's Gmail

[Lord_of_the_Dense]

Hey, honestly, if this goes through, I don't see much use for Gmail anymore.I find that I barely use it as it is.

[the great one]

I don't use my yahoo account that often,but it's about time they caught up with google.
The more space the better.

[Stownplayer]

I'll never use yahoo like i used to years ago even though they will up the storage to 1 gig. They still probably won't allow pop3 access. Therfore, gmail still kicks ass. But hell since i still have an active yahoo account, i'll use it for spam since that is what i recieve a lot of at yahoo. Havent recieved any at gmail.

[Sk8er Boi]

Gmail is the only thing I use.

I used to be an avid hotmail user, but they pissed me off with their limited space, so I said goodbye to them. I've never liked Yahoo. I find instead of trying to be a good company, they try and up Google in everything instead of coming up with original ideas.