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CORRUPTERBUSTER
May 31st, 2004, 06:27 AM
http://www.zeropaid.com/news/articles/auto/05312004a.php

People this has to stop!

I don’t know about the rest of you but I am not falling for all this BS about the lawsuits and them going after downloader’s, and now uploaders? Give me a break, how long do we have to deal with all this BS; I mean it is so easy to protect yourself from things like this.

So here is the question, how many people honestly believe in this crap?

SuitablyTwisted
May 31st, 2004, 07:29 AM
Reads like Grade-A propaganda to me. Pick a couple of comments out of an entire proceeding and frame an article around it. A pro p2p reporter not shilling for the RIAA could have written a completely different article about the same hearing. Only believe half of what you read, and then only if it can be backed up with three independent sources. I'm waiting for a complete transcript of the hearing, and then I'll decide for myself.

CORRUPTERBUSTER
May 31st, 2004, 11:25 AM
Reads like Grade-A propaganda to me. Pick a couple of comments out of an entire proceeding and frame an article around it. A pro p2p reporter not shilling for the RIAA could have written a completely different article about the same hearing. Only believe half of what you read, and then only if it can be backed up with three independent sources. I'm waiting for a complete transcript of the hearing, and then I'll decide for myself. I guess I could have came up with that, maybe not. Nice, simple and Clean!

smokingbevel
May 31st, 2004, 02:16 PM
The brief outlines a series of factual considerations -- such as the default settings of KaZaA and possible errors that can arise when using IP addresses to identify individuals. It also considers the larger, substantive issues at stake in the lawsuits, including fair use defenses and the question of whether making files available in shared folders constitutes a violation of the copyright holders' "public distribution" rights.Attorneys for the RIAA took issue with several points in the Berkman Center's brief as "off-base."A pro p2p reporter not shilling for the RIAA could have written a completely different article about the same hearing.If this statement is meant to be a claim that the Berkman Briefings and Mary Bridges, Project Assistant of Berkman, are heavily biased in favor of the RIAA, please offer "real" supporting evidence. In actuality, the article appears to be little more than a Berkman self-promotional piece intermingled with some facts.

Attachments:

photo of Mary Bridges
Berkman amicus brief (with bookmarks added)

Mels_Smileys45
May 31st, 2004, 02:33 PM
As far as I know the RIAA and MPAA have only sued uploaders. I guess we can pretend its not happening or is in the news.

CORRUPTERBUSTER
May 31st, 2004, 10:15 PM
You know, not to offend anyone on this site but just in this weekend alone I counted at the least 6 new stories about how the RIAA is getting tough. What I would like to know is how come the RIAA has to write so many articles about how they are going to stop file sharing all together. Everyday there is something new on the internet, and holy crap! How many of these do we have to read about.

I hardly hear about file sharing lawsuits on world news, as of matter of fact the only place that I ever heard about file sharing has been on Tech TV. So if these are such big news then why don’t we hear about it on the news everyday like the OJ Simpson Trial? It is all made up Bull Crap propaganda and we are all falling for it tooth and nail. Here is what I oppose we do about it, let’s not post their articles and don’t comment on them anymore. Let us all here at Zeropaid just fight back by not reading about it for just one day. Have you ever thought like one person in here put it, we are the fuel of their stupid articles and the more we keep on posting these stupid gossip articles the more we all have to worry about something new coming from their mouths. As a promise to everyone in here from this posting on, I am not going to comment on any of them or will I read them anymore. If I can get a few of you to stand with me in this and some of us just write to Zeropaid and explain why we don’t want to read about it anymore just maybe they will hear us and join in too.

For the love of God, Lets talk about something new in here. Let us all move on the better and new things that we can enjoy. If you don’t understand why just take a few moments to understand and to read all these postings in just the last month. If they isn’t enough proof for you, then I don’t know how to make you understand. Come on guys, we are all smarter then this and the more we fuel this fire the bigger it gets. It is time for us to close this book and reach for another. To help each other, to stand together as a team to put a stop to this crap once and for all.

Mels_Smileys45
May 31st, 2004, 11:26 PM
Well i'll just have to disagree. Ignoring the facts wont make them an less real or go away. Knowledge is power, ignorance is bliss. You pick which one you want the most.

CORRUPTERBUSTER
June 1st, 2004, 09:13 PM
Well i'll just have to disagree. Ignoring the facts wont make them an less real or go away. Knowledge is power, ignorance is bliss. You pick which one you want the most.
Ok you have a good point, but how many times do you have to be told that you are doing wrong?

CORRUPTERBUSTER
June 1st, 2004, 09:20 PM
Wow I am surprised; people really eat this stuff up like a good steak. I understand though it is really human nature and you just can’t get a lot of people to fully understand. I did find out one thing that was interesting. Zeropaid is a big supporter of P2P file sharing, and all the news that comes with it. Dang, people have to talk about something.

Mr. T
June 1st, 2004, 09:22 PM
http://www.zeropaid.com/news/articles/auto/05312004a.php

People this has to stop!

I don’t know about the rest of you but I am not falling for all this BS about the lawsuits and them going after downloader’s, and now uploaders? Give me a break, how long do we have to deal with all this BS; I mean it is so easy to protect yourself from things like this.

So here is the question, how many people honestly believe in this crap?

Then make it stop and quit with all the jibber jabber.

Ken17625
June 1st, 2004, 11:46 PM
Wow I am surprised; people really eat this stuff up like a good steak. I understand though it is really human nature and you just can’t get a lot of people to fully understand. I did find out one thing that was interesting. Zeropaid is a big supporter of P2P file sharing, and all the news that comes with it. Dang, people have to talk about something.

I don't understand, what exactly is the problem?

Do you feel you know something that nobody in the entire known universe knows?.......That you are above a certain group, and have achieved a higher understanding?

I sense a bit of a self-centered personality, shining through your posts.

It’s information. People can do whatever they want with it, including not reading it. This site posts news. That includes news on the legal aspect of file sharing, which just happens to be in abundance. 72 program/updates aren't released every day, and other news isn't coming out every minute. News sites, and such, like Zeropaid, need news articles to post.

There is the answer to your "why?".

CORRUPTERBUSTER
June 2nd, 2004, 01:32 AM
I don't understand, what exactly is the problem?

Do you feel you know something that nobody in the entire known universe knows?.......That you are above a certain group, and have achieved a higher understanding?

I sense a bit of a self-centered personality, shining through your posts.

It’s information. People can do whatever they want with it, including not reading it. This site posts news. That includes news on the legal aspect of file sharing, which just happens to be in abundance. 72 program/updates aren't released every day, and other news isn't coming out every minute. News sites, and such, like Zeropaid, need news articles to post.

There is the answer to your "why?".
Got yea, good point.

cjules13
June 2nd, 2004, 05:45 AM
Ok you have a good point, but how many times do you have to be told that you are doing wrong?
I want as much news as possible. The more I know, the smarter I am about filesharing. News is a good thing as long as you don't take it 100% everytime. Use your noggin and you'll get good info between sources.

You know what you're doing is illegal already, get over it! :;)

CORRUPTERBUSTER
June 2nd, 2004, 01:25 PM
I want as much news as possible. The more I know, the smarter I am about filesharing. News is a good thing as long as you don't take it 100% everytime. Use your noggin and you'll get good info between sources.

You know what you're doing is illegal already, get over it! :;)
I guess I was wrong and you are right

cjules13
June 2nd, 2004, 01:59 PM
I guess I was wrong and you are rightNaw, I can see what you meant... after all, hearing bad news all the time can be frustrating...

CORRUPTERBUSTER
June 4th, 2004, 02:15 AM
Naw, I can see what you meant... after all, hearing bad news all the time can be frustrating...I think it is hard to explain what you mean putting them down in words that is and trying to understand other people’s feeling also can be a job. It is all about taste and what you want to know, however when you wake up in the mornings and you come to your computer that first thing you see when you pull up this website is everything about how these agencies are coming up with something new. After a while everyone gets tired of hearing about it.

As for Zeropaid.com this is what this whole website is about. So how could I ask people not to comment on these issues? There are so many nice people in here and I enjoy talking to them. Some times they might agree with me and other times they won’t, but that is what this site is all about. Talking about these issues that surround us.

shawners
June 4th, 2004, 05:26 AM
they was always going after the uploaders, their the ones shareing the files. and spreading copyright material.