Unite the Cows to Re-Open Under New Ownership

[Roadblock]

Taken from www.unitethecows.com Front Page



Hello UTC members. I have some great news... Tom and Ray over at Slyck.com have offered to keep UTC alive. They volunteered to host & maintain the site. Everything will remain as is; all admin and master accounts will stay in place however, the owners will now be Slyck.com. Tom and Ray have vowed to keep the site for you, the members. I will help when I can with future updates, and check on everything. Please be patient for about the next week as it will take that long transfer everything to Slyck's servers and help set UTC back up. In the mean time stop by and show your support to UTC's new owners Tom & Ray, they deserve it for taking on such a huge task As always, take care and keep grazing.
-unite-

[crackerjacker]

rtw

[cheapprick]

Good stuff. The wider the p2p community the easier it is to stay informed.

[Dark Messenger]

Great news...thanks guys. :-)

[Jorge]

ah, just wait for what zp has lined up.

[Slycktom]

Can't wait!

[MoonMan]

Originally posted by crackerjacker
rtw

Not trying to be off subject, but what does rtw mean?

[Roadblock]

"ah, just wait for what zp has lined up."


What, for us cows at UTC? Thanks Jorge! I can't wait either! :wings

[cheapprick]

Jorge and Dubstylee have graciously allowed you to keep your fans informed through their site. Though there has been tension between the sites,(Read gentle competition), there is no need to quibble. UTC fans are as welcome here as anyone else, but you have to expect that Zeropaid doesn't want to stoke you up too much.

[Roadblock]

"Jorge and Dubstylee have graciously allowed you to keep your fans informed through their site. Though there has been tension between the sites, (read gentle competition), there is no need to quibble. UTC fans are as welcome here as anyone else, but you have to expect that Zeropaid doesn't want to stoke you up too much."


cheapprick
That was a friendly jibe, not an intention to quibble. I am aware that Jorge (as well as several other ZP members) has never been a fan of UTC. What I don't know is why? Competition? Jorge has 120,000+ members to our 11,000+. We aren't in a position to compete. Any so called tensions between the sites were not created by anyone at UTC. When Slyck.com added forums to their great site, if you look, you'll see that UTC people were the first ones to post there congratulating them. We had no trouble "stoking" them. We were certainly gracious in our thanks to Jorge when ZP posted the news about UTC getting booted off of our server for hosting Dr. Damn's clean Grokster.

We do not compete with other similiar sites. Does ZP feel the need to compete? They certainly shouldn't. There is room in this for all of us. We should be in this thing together. The real enemy is the RIAA & MPAA. I have always looked at it that way. Besides, I was a member of ZP before UTC, should I not be allowed to post an opinion, that is mature, clean & non inflamitory? There certainly seems to be plenty of room here for the other kind.

[cheapprick]

A fine answer. Perhaps I was wrong about your post. I thought you were being capricious. I like the idea of all the sites working toward a common goal, but each one will always have a little different taste, and that's just as useful. Good luck to you and yours. Moo.
However to say that there is no reason for competition at all is shortsighted. I'm far from being a Darwinist, but the more popular sites do tend to live longer.

[Ken17625]

"Not trying to be off subject, but what does rtw mean?"


That means, I believe, "Ride The Waves".

[Crazy Horse]

This is good news. My puter was down for a week and I come back to find out UTC is down. I was wondering what happened.

[Jorge]

Originally posted by cheapprick
Jorge and Dubstylee have graciously allowed you to keep your fans informed through their site. Though there has been tension between the sites,(Read gentle competition), there is no need to quibble. UTC fans are as welcome here as anyone else, but you have to expect that Zeropaid doesn't want to stoke you up too much.

true dat!
Thanks for the kind words cheapprick.

[MoonMan]

Originally posted by Ken17625
"Not trying to be off subject, but what does rtw mean?"


That means, I believe, "Ride The Waves".

ahh i see, thanks!

[Roadblock]

Cheapprick,
Thanks for the nice reply. Perhaps you are right about the competition thing. I think my comments were more utopian than short sighted. I must admit, that is the way it should be, not necessarily the way it is. Folks have different tastes, therefore we have different sites. We have tried to keep our site more "family oriented", therefore some folks think we are restrictive. Well, compared to here, we certainly are. Although many of our members are members here as well, myself included. I personally was turned off from this site by the flaming, racism and childishness that is too often allowed to be posted in replies to the news stories here. (The forums are much better controlled.) Does that make ZP a totally bad site? Of course not! ZP is a great site. You wouldn't have 120,000+ members were this not the case. And Jorge, despite what u might think, I want to see ZP grow and succeed as well as Slyck, UTC and other sites about file sharing. It is good for all of us. Can't we all work together for the common goal: DEATH TO THE DMCA & RIAA!

[Jorge]

Originally posted by Roadblock
...turned off from this site by the flaming, racism and childishness that is too often allowed to be posted in replies to the news stories here.

News story comments are now being moderated. Thanks for the support.

Jorge

[Slycktom]

If Slyck.com and UTC.com can cooperate, there's no reason why ZP can't be included on some level. I think ZP has to conceed that a large P2P community thrives outside their realm...one that's perfectly willing to coexist. We don't feel as though there is any tension between the sites, although posts on ZP's forums would suggest otherwise. Nor do we feel a need to compete; for and to what end?

Better communication would go a long way...many feel as though ZP chooses to ignore what goes on outside their community. While this may or may not be true, our lines of communication are always open......

[dubstylee]

I read Slyck.com for the good writing and the scoops they get. I didn't look at utc because I thought the name was dumb and I dont like having to register just to look at the site. I'm glad Slyck is taking them over, becasue I am sure both sites will be better for it. Zeropaid isn't here to dominate the p2p space, shit in the beginning it wasn't even about that. We just started a music site with a cool name and then along came gnutella.

I think the negativity comes from the fact that the sites are in the same space, and we do all make some sort of revenue (however measly). That makes this business, and therefore competetive by nature. But we are not out to wipe out other sites, on the other hand we like to maintain good relationships with everyone in the p2p space.

Peace out

Chris

[Slycktom]

I absolutely agree with you. However to better coexist we need to open up better lines of communication. I think what many would like to see is for better relations between ZP and Slyck, not that things are in an unfavorable situation. In addition, it would be mutually benificial if there WERE relations between the two....something that's currently lacking. As I've stated prior, our lines of communication are always open...

[Crazy Horse]

No wet sloppy kisses. LOL
While I do spend most of my time on ZP I feel I owe no allegience to any one site. I am registered at ZP, Slyck, Napjunk & UTC. I gather useful information from all these sites and have friends at all of them. I might also add that alot of the people I "see" here I also "see" on the other sites. While there may be a little competition in someones mind I don't see that as the driving force. We are here and at the other sites to be a community first. We are here to exchange ideas and information, to make friends & generally just do our thing.
So what it boils down to is .... We CAN all just be friends..... E Pluribus Unum (out of many - one)

[wiggum]

News story comments are now being moderated

Great. Step 1 to improving the news comments has been done. Now can we go even further and limit replies to those who are registered and improve the news comments software or direct people to put comments in the forums?

If Slyck.com and UTC.com can cooperate, there's no reason why ZP can't be included

Tom, is there any way particular way thing you think the 2 sites can co-operate with?

I read Slyck.com for the good writing...

Same here. As I have said to him the quality of his articles are second to none. He has an excellent style of writing which combines intelligence with a good degree of easy to read simplicity.

[Sephiroth]

I still dont get why this issue is being brought up.. The immature comments of a few do not speak for the whole. I personally dont have anything against other sites even though im not a regular visitor of them or anything because they dont really appeal to me..

I dont see the need of some kind of offical relationship between slyck and zp.com is really needed or would be that beneficial either.. I think zp.com could improve in a few areas and attrach even more people here and i think that some of the things are being done like the news comments being moderated so that when new people come here they dont read the news comments and think that this site is just for immature kids who want to go off on about ignuanas, use foul language and post other unintelligent and crap which gives a really bad false impression of this site..

As for the material thats produced here and posted like interviews and etc. I think those could be improved a little bit and i would be more than happy to help out in this area..

[Morgwen]

Originally posted by Sephiroth
I dont see the need of some kind of offical relationship between slyck and zp.com is really needed or would be that beneficial either..

The admis decide... if they want they can talk and see if a relationship would be helpful or not... - end of the discussion.

Morgwen

[evilmegaman]

I think I will sound stupid but I thought there already was a relationship between UTC, Slyck and ZP... And I think if there isn't already the benefits may be to get more special insider-news from one another or maybe if you're a member at one site then yyou can have a few extra specials for joining the others.

I think I am making a complete idiot of myself but I had to say it.

-Evilmegaman:mellow

[Roadblock]

News story comments are now being moderated. Thanks for the support.

Jorge


Kudos to Jorge, dubstylee & ZP! I appreciate your efforts to make ZP all that it can be. I have failed to mention that I really like the format that ZP is now using. (Sorry for being late) If UTC comes back on-line, it will still be my main home, but I look forward to visiting and posting here more often. I also agree with SlyckTom & the others with positive comments about us working together. I too am registered here as well as UTC, Slyck, Napjunk, & Winamp just to name a few. Friendly competition is good for all. We push each other to become better.
Dubstylee - I suppose you are right about our name being silly. But I must admit we have had a great deal of fun with our name and all the cow related puns. As far as registration is concerned, to my knowlege, you could always read the posts at UTC without registering. But in order to post, you must be registered. And all registration required was an email address. It didn't even have to be a valid one. At any rate, I look forward to working with Slyck (New Boss), ZP and all the others to take on the real enemies of our freedom to share files!