Would you pay for a P2P shareware Program?

[mojo-ris-in]

:devil Ok I was just wondering if people would pony out money for a P2P shareware program? Something along the lines of MIRC that would let you try the software for 30 days and require you to buy a license after that time to continue using it. It seems the biggest hurdle in initially getting a p2p program off the ground is lack of funds. This might be a way for an enterprising person to get the necessary funds to get started but would it be enough to keep it going? Just want some thoughts....

[Ken17625]

I like free P2P. No I wouldn't.

[Deep Thought]

To be quite frank i would sooner stop using P2P altogether, i'm not interested enough in music or the various other contents available on the networks to pay for them, i just like to dabble a bit.

[cheapprick]

It still comes down to the fact that a majority? of file sharers don't have access to a credit card. For this reason, I can't see it working.
On the other hand look at nero. You can download and use it for 30 days. At the end of the 30 days, uninstall, rip through your registry, download it again. Not what you were talking about, but the only way I could make use of it.

[mojo-ris-in]

Originally posted by cheapprick
It still comes down to the fact that a majority? of file sharers don't have access to a credit card. For this reason, I can't see it working.
On the other hand look at nero. You can download and use it for 30 days. At the end of the 30 days, uninstall, rip through your registry, download it again. Not what you were talking about, but the only way I could make use of it.

:devil LOL cheap I was thinking along the line of a one time fee like MIRC charges to license their software but your comment leads me to believe this wouldn't work anyways because people would get cracks of the program either off of file sharing programs or from other sources. Oh well it was just an idea. Maybe someone else can figure a way to do it or come up with an alternative.

[Use_The_Forks_Luke]

When they'd make a filesharing client I really like, and it was just a trial... I'd just get the crack file somewhere, or the serial number and register it myself, without paying anything.
If there would be a filesharing network where you have to pay to get on the servers... I'd just avoid that particular network and go to another, free network. There will always be free networks so I'm not worrying.

[MoonMan]

Originally posted by mojo-ris-in
:devil Ok I was just wondering if people would pony out money for a P2P shareware program? Something along the lines of MIRC that would let you try the software for 30 days and require you to buy a license after that time to continue using it. It seems the biggest hurdle in initially getting a p2p program off the ground is lack of funds. This might be a way for an enterprising person to get the necessary funds to get started but would it be enough to keep it going? Just want some thoughts....

I wouldnt pay for p2p lol.. its free and should stay that way =)

btw mIRC is shareware, but paying for it isnt enforced at all... its only if you want to.. and you usually dont even get prompted again if you just close the window.

[isus]

i think if the fee was very small (like $2 - $5), and the network was very usable, stable, and fast (like napster, decentralized), and had a nice gui, i would think about it.

about gui's... nobody makes anything new or exciting anymore. look at winmx 3 or kazaa... kazaa has been the same for years. it recently got a few new icons... winmx uses ugly command buttons... blech. i would not pay for a p2p client if it was ugly... no matter how fast it was or how many people used it. i only use winmx right now because nothing else is available that gives as much info about files and all that other good stuff

[MoonMan]

Originally posted by isus
i think if the fee was very small (like $2 - $5), and the network was very usable, stable, and fast (like napster, decentralized), and had a nice gui, i would think about it.

about gui's... nobody makes anything new or exciting anymore. look at winmx 3 or kazaa... kazaa has been the same for years. it recently got a few new icons... winmx uses ugly command buttons... blech. i would not pay for a p2p client if it was ugly... no matter how fast it was or how many people used it. i only use winmx right now because nothing else is available that gives as much info about files and all that other good stuff

So you would pay for a p2p client if it was good... but you wouldnt pay for a p2p client (even if it was the best) because it has ugly buttons......?

riiiiiiiiiiiight.

[Deep Thought]

but you wouldnt pay for a p2p client (even if it was the best) because it has ugly buttons......?

That just sounds so funny..i'm sorry.

[Crazy Horse]

......With all the legal questions still up in the air I can't see anyone trying to put together a PAY program from scratch to put out to the masses just to go bankrupt. Again, from the consumer side, who's going to pay for a program that may be sued out of existence. I know there are already pay (Pro)services out there charging. Are they really making any money? Then we have the music industrys feeble attempts at pay services... well we all know how that turned out. If the courts rule that downloading files is legal and tells the music industry to change their business model or die and effectively legalizes file-sharing for non-commercial use (like VCR) then you may see some people pay. But the way shit is now.... PAY?!?! I think not!!

[Power Penguin]

I wouldn't but any of the stuff I download.

I would just use freeware.

I have no interest in a lot of it, movies, music, and games aren't my thing. I like to read.

Just do it really, might find something or other.

I don't value the message on P2P apps, and I don't value the messenger.

If they took my PC away, I would probably study linguistics. The two are similar I think. Rules, protocols and all that.

[isus]

moonman - damn straight. there are just too many ugly buttons...

another reason we should pay is because if the network starts to get sued, have 10000 users who have payed $3 a piece would give the guy $30000 to fight legal battles...

but of course, if he went out and bought a bmw with the money, and then had a legal battle and this caused the network to go down, i would shoot him and p iss in his gas tank.

[whiff]

I don't think i'd ever pay for the client, but I probably would pay for certain pieces of content, if the price was right, the quality assured and I had confidence in the provider.

Perhaps that's anathema to the Zeropaid ethos, but that's where I'm at. I want to see that Angelina Jolie video, but I don't want to subscribe to some skeezy celeb site.....

[wonderboy2005]

ok... p2p has allways been about getting the file(s) you want, without paying for them, right? then why should a p2p program be any different? if ur a file sharer, then your probly not gonna say " well i download movies, music, games, etc for free, but im gonna pay for a pretty gui" or somthing like that. on the other hand, i can see the benifits of paying for p2p... the creators are probly going to spend most of their time on it, as it would probly be their main source of income, creatting a better app in theory. but the benifits just dont seem to outweigh the negatives. if there is an app that is a pay service, then i will most likely try to find a crack/hack or somthing of that nature. if all else fails, i will concider paying.

[doofynz]

the only p2p program I would pay for is toadnode I like that and it's only 5dollars us and it is on the gnutella network

[jonny5]

lmfao @ the ugly buttons

I hardly ever bought cd's/music before i started using p2p programs.. and i'm definitly not going to pay for it online.

[jonny5]

the only p2p program I would pay for is toadnode I like that and it's only 5dollars us and it is on the gnutella network - fooynz

errr... toadnode already costs 5 dollars and is on the gnutella network??? *cough* gnucleas, shearza, xolox, etc *cough*

[doofynz]

you are right but I was just saying If was but I am not

[psychotronic420]

Pay for a P2P client?................don't think so
nuff said




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[isus]

If it's good and not too expensive, I'll pay for it. People have to put food on the table.

[notbob]

If it's good and not too expensive, I'll pay for it. People have to put food on the table.

bullshit

they can get a real job

[jacem913]

I wouldnt pay for it, p2p should be free to the users!

[isus]

bullshit

they can get a real job
Extra money helps.

I don't expect somebody to pay for a website or transfer costs out of their own pocket, and when you're hosting popular software, that can get more expensive than ads/banners can cover.

[notbob]

Extra money helps.

I don't expect somebody to pay for a website or transfer costs out of their own pocket, and when you're hosting popular software, that can get more expensive than ads/banners can cover.


why should i care about their problems?

gimme gimme gimme!

[White Crow]

bullshit

they can get a real job

Took the words right out of my mouth notbob.

[kokanezub]

i already pay for p2p we all do....seriously 90% of us do not need broadband.. only reson we pay so much for it is for p2p. so we already do pay...like last month gas was $3.40 a gallon....the guy at the station tells me donate to help hurricane victims... i look and i said to him. i just filled a half tank with 30 $$ and the gas is high because of the victums..i already donated with my gas...so we all are paying in different ways we dont know of. With out privacy with our time with our knowledge with our bandwidth....ect

[.:sp00ky:.]

your a retard kokanezub, go join the MACvsSOG retard club.

[riderx]

i am ok
are u ok
yes i am ok
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smooth something *

[bobhss]

why should i care about their problems?

gimme gimme gimme!

Spoken like a True American!

lol

[ABC123666]

I would never pay for a program I'm going to be using illegaly, esspecualy if its closed source. Who knows what kind of crap the thing is doing with my pc? If I want to support the developers of a p2p program, I'd suport ones who work on an open source app and donating to their project.

[nukehella]

If they had a free trial version I would use that to dl a full version.

[boogiedan]

Totally agree--
p2p should be n alway's will be free
it's a movement, hobby 4 me

[TwoLoud]

i see cracks in my future

[moneoa]

i see cracks in my future
quit staring at people when they bend over then. :icon_salu :icon_tong

[Globalist]

Well... yes... I would. (I hear you all gasp).

Only when it comes to Soulseek, and possibly eD2k.

Firstly, when it comes down to Soulseek, it's 'donation ware'. But most of all, I value it's content of unpopular music genre's, ie most electronic styles of music. So I don't mind giving the network a couple of quid or dollars 'here and there'. Yet, the money donated to it, is primariy 'loyalty' status. ie you won't see many queues, as much as you would without giving them a few dollars a pounds.

Secondly, I don't like eMule for using on the eDonkey network, that's why I use eD2k. Aswell as it not eMule not offering the content that eD2k can offer, and the 'Credit' system by eMule is not a patch on eD2k's 'Horde' system. Plus, eMule doesn't have Overnet either, and becuase of the content of the Overnet and eDonkey networks... again, (I very much value and appriciate the content it offers), I don't mind giving them 10 quid or 20 dollars for the devolpment of the eD2k client.

People pay for their internet connection, in the same logic I would only ever give money to Soulseek and eD2k.

[kokanezub]

.:sp00ky:. ur missing my point ...we pay 60$ for cable..tell me one good reason u want cable at home...90% of us could so just as well with 56k without p2p i mean wut chatting?posting?it all doesnt need broad band

[sorros]

:devil Ok I was just wondering if people would pony out money for a P2P shareware program? Something along the lines of MIRC that would let you try the software for 30 days and require you to buy a license after that time to continue using it. It seems the biggest hurdle in initially getting a p2p program off the ground is lack of funds. This might be a way for an enterprising person to get the necessary funds to get started but would it be enough to keep it going? Just want some thoughts....

NO NO NO P2P is free!!! although the newsgroups offer more security. So if i was in danger of being shutoff for notices id jump to a newsgroup and pay$. Otherwise NO

[CookieS]

You're not talking about just "paying" for software, you're talking about commercializing file sharing. Althought there are small networks that function on an economic system, the overall appeal for P2P is that everyone can access everything. Paying to share files is NOT the solution for copyright disputes or other legal troubles.

What you're proposing actually has already happened to the original pioneer, Napster. Once an open P2P protocol, today its an online store that people must pay to access. The users pay with dollars for access rather than their upload bandwidth. Whenever you centeralize any peer-based service, you give up power to a select few, and thus, censorship comes into play. Who wants that?