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CORRUPTERBUSTER
April 25th, 2004, 10:41 AM
I have been working on a project for about a year now and I need some input on this idea. The idea is more of a concept idea to give people a chance to download music straight from a running server. You wouldn’t have share with other but just download.
I thought about the idea of a membership then I changed my mind because that is how you attract too many snoopy people. You would be able to download MP3’s at high quality at a brit-rate of 224 compensating for downloading across the net and give you the option of compressing it to a standard MP3 format at a brit-rate of 128. I have also thought about just having it in it’s original wav format but that would take up a lot of space. However if I am going t do something like why not do it right and offer both. Almost like BK have it your way.
I have the server and I am building the webpage as we speak now I look for ideas from you. Let me know what you would want from a service like this.
johnsmatrix
April 25th, 2004, 11:27 AM
Umm,, just a quick question here?
Whats to keep you from being sued and shut down in a few days for distributing copyrighted material..??? :tol2
Krell
April 25th, 2004, 11:28 AM
You must love that unlimited bandwidth, how much you paying for that?
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nasrules
April 25th, 2004, 11:59 AM
I was going to say! How exactly do you expect to not get busted?!
MP3guy
April 25th, 2004, 02:06 PM
hey smoke another one for me there kid.
CORRUPTERBUSTER
April 25th, 2004, 02:10 PM
You all get an A for a job well done. I am going to address each of those questions to the best of my ability. I wasn’t prepared for questions but I will give it a shot.
Johns: You asked me, “What’s t keep you from being sued and shut down in a few days for distributing copy right material”? My answer: I think it would take more then just a few days for them to catch up with me. And Besides their too busy trying to shut down P2P download sites. And you have to remember this is not P2P.
Krell: You and d I have bumped heads before in the past and you got a good point too. How much bandwidth do you think I need? We are talking about Gigabyte right? Transferring heavy amounts of information over the internet? First off I had to buy my web space to put my web page which cost me $36.00 per-month not bad there are cheaper places that I could go but seeing this is my local Cable Company all I am paying for is the web space and the outbound bandwidth is unlimited anyway. So I don’t pay for that. Now if I was paying for incoming bandwidth that would be a different story and I am not sure what the cost world be. As I told John, this is not P2P. It is all outgoing.
Nasrules: Another good question, how am I going to prevent from being busted? Well, at this time I don’t know to be honest with you. That is why I was looking for some ideas instead of questions from all of you. As I pointed out above this is not P2P so I am thinking that I won’t be drawing attention to myself right off the bat. That is why I am wondering if I should only have a membership only website so I can pretty much keep an eye on who is downloading any music. But that is where I could draw attention to myself. So I guess my answer to that Question is that I will cross that bridge when it comes to me.
CORRUPTERBUSTER
April 25th, 2004, 02:12 PM
hey smoke another one for me there kid.
Don't smoke and um, I am not a kid.
CORRUPTERBUSTER
April 25th, 2004, 02:14 PM
Come on guys I am looking for ideas and from past postings you all have some good ideas of your own. maybe I just picked the wrong area to post this in. I am not sure of that. Ideas guys Ideas.
sebfernando
April 25th, 2004, 03:20 PM
CORRUPTERBUSTER, trust me, you will get caught by the riaa even though it nots p2p
KingOfTheSlums
April 25th, 2004, 03:32 PM
This a great idea if and only if
1) The server is located in a country with no copyright laws.
2) You find a webhost who will offer completely unlimited transfers (there is really no such thing)
The idea of sharing wav files is completely moronic when you could share lossless files which take up half the disc space of .wav files.
Sounds to me like you are attention seeking.
CORRUPTERBUSTER
April 25th, 2004, 05:52 PM
This a great idea if and only if
1) The server is located in a country with no copyright laws.
2) You find a webhost who will offer completely unlimited transfers (there is really no such thing)
The idea of sharing wav files is completely moronic when you could share lossless files which take up half the disc space of .wav files.
Sounds to me like you are attention seeking.
I was going to adress this post but to save us from arguments I am going to let this one go and go on to the next person. Thank you for the info though.
Ken17625
April 25th, 2004, 05:58 PM
You don't have the bandwidth to support this.
You may think you do, but you don't.
You obviously don't understand anything about bandwidth.
You won’t have to worry about getting caught though; you'll collapse under the bandwidth load.
CORRUPTERBUSTER
April 25th, 2004, 05:59 PM
CORRUPTERBUSTER, trust me, you will get caught by the riaa even though it nots p2p
Hey Seb:
Yes I understand there is a chance of getting caught by the RIAA. But papa has a new bag of tricks loop holes and documents that can protect me from harm. Do you are right anyway. I could get caught, Dang I just wish I could explain it to you with out outer eyes looking down on me. Like the RIAA boyz that hang out in here. right?
CORRUPTERBUSTER
April 25th, 2004, 06:01 PM
You don't have the bandwidth to support this.
You may think you do, but you don't.
You obviously don't understand anything about bandwidth.
You won’t have to worry about getting caught though; you'll collapse under the bandwidth load.
That was a interesting comment. You must know something I don't.
CORRUPTERBUSTER
April 25th, 2004, 06:21 PM
You know what guys; I really want to thank you for all your postings some of them really gave me some ideas on what to look out for. There is one however that I had to leave alone because my days of arguments are over with. People telling me I don’t know what I am doing or that I have no concept of different issues. I don’t play those games. I really thought this would be the area where I could get some positive backing on my idea.
Anything and everything is possible. You just have to know how to get around the mess in the middle. You guys are alright and I am not mad at your comments you are looking out for me and a few might want to challenge my intellect or my abilities that is ok too nothing wrong with a good challenge once in a while. I am going to move on and see what other might have to say.
Peace
MusikBeatz23
April 25th, 2004, 06:38 PM
Maybe you could set-up a membership service, but only allow people you trust register. Also If you let everyone know about the site and anyone can register you'll probably run out of bandwith pretty fast. Also the chances of you getting caught are pretty HIGH. Good luck you'll need it.
Whistler
April 25th, 2004, 07:33 PM
i agrree w/ musicbeats: gl you will need it.
Jorge
April 25th, 2004, 07:45 PM
CORRUPTERBUSTER, you just need to weed out the lame comments. Some people around here don't always act as they should, so you can expect to see some "You don't have the bandwidth to support this. You may think you do, but you don't. You obviously don't understand anything about bandwidth. You won’t have to worry about getting caught though; you'll collapse under the bandwidth load.". Nevermind those types of comments, just keep your focus and knowledgeable comments will arise.
Ken17625
April 25th, 2004, 08:10 PM
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwww...............
I love you too Jorge.
Prove me wrong. Educate me.
mcovey
April 25th, 2004, 08:17 PM
I'm with you all the way on this. If you can pull it off, even if you do have to do memberships or something, it's a great idea, and excellent to see someone taking the initiative to help with the distribution of music. I just hope this isn't a statement against RIAA, but a legitimate attempt to share music... Just a few things:
You should put up a donation form, because if it is as you say, I might donate to help deter costs.
to at least have an air of legitimacy or lawfulness, you should perhaps put a link by all songs:
"Like this song? Buy it from:
amazon
buy.com"..... etc.
That would do you worlds of good.
GOOD LUCK!
Rickio
April 25th, 2004, 08:17 PM
corrupterbuster!
check out this website: http://znail.com Really read there plan. It obviously pays for itself while providing a very cool service.
I like the idea of putting together a website that offers this as a perk of membership.
Just a variation on idea of sharing or making sharing easier.
peace
baghdad_steve15
April 25th, 2004, 08:21 PM
CORRUPTERBUSTER, you just need to weed out the lame comments. Some people around here don't always act as they should, so you can expect to see some "You don't have the bandwidth to support this. You may think you do, but you don't. You obviously don't understand anything about bandwidth. You won't have to worry about getting caught though; you'll collapse under the bandwidth load.". Nevermind those types of comments, just keep your focus and knowledgeable comments will arise.
Is this some kind of reverse psychology? Yes corrupt, go ahead and jump off.
To be honest if you want some good life experiences go ahead and take the risk, just whatever you do, dont drop the soap.
cheapprick
April 25th, 2004, 11:55 PM
I just don't see it working.
Let's say you set it up in your closet. Then maybe your ISP contacts you and asks if they can have a look at your connection because they are getting some strange readings.
Further suppose you refuse to give them access and they send police to serve a search warrant on your closet. The whole ordeal could be most upsetting.
.::BeatFactory::.
April 25th, 2004, 11:58 PM
tcp/ip sends and recieves confirmation packets when you download to make sure that you recieved the data (aka overhead) so wouldn't you eventually use up a lot of incoming bandwidth too even though your outgoing is unlimited or is you isp set up to include those incoming packets?
DudeAsInCool
April 26th, 2004, 12:23 AM
CORRUPTERBUSTER, you just need to weed out the lame comments. Some people around here don't always act as they should, so you can expect to see some "You don't have the bandwidth to support this. You may think you do, but you don't. You obviously don't understand anything about bandwidth. You won’t have to worry about getting caught though; you'll collapse under the bandwidth load.". Nevermind those types of comments, just keep your focus and knowledgeable comments will arise.
CB, dont be discouraged. Progress only happens when you learn from experience Also, I wouldnt dismiss brutually honest comments-sometimes they lead to the right answers, and there is nothing 'lame' about that.
nasrules
April 26th, 2004, 12:49 AM
Jorge: True, it may not have been the best way for him to say it - but he was right.
No ISP is going to offer you truly unlimited bandwidth - if you're offering HTTP downloads of copyrighted music for free the amount of data transferred is going to be huge and will put a huge strain on the server. Also don't forget that you're doing exactly what you do when you upload in P2P - and just because it's members-only doesn't make it legal!
napho
April 26th, 2004, 03:29 PM
I was going to suggest you use Superfastdownload. It's a program that creates small links similar to torrents. You could host them locally and with swarming downloads the speeds would be similar to BitTorrent at it's best. Unfortunately their sites all seem to be down, maybe for good.
"SuperFastDownload has just released a p2p file sharing application designed specifically for webmasters to deliver files and video streaming. Superfastdownload software has been designed with the intention of offering webmasters all the benefits a p2p file sharing network has to offer. Those benefits include reduced bandwidth charges, surviving server crashes when flooded with massive download or stream requests, and the high speed advantage of delivering files in parallel. Using SFD software is very simple and straightforward for webmasters to implement and an SFD file is only about 1 KB in size."
Example http://www.funnymovies.net/
SimbaK2K
April 26th, 2004, 04:55 PM
Youve really gotta look at the bigger picture. It just wouldn't work, you get letters if you share 1 movie, if you shared a whole music store of tunes, you really think there ignore you? No..
tlogank
April 26th, 2004, 07:47 PM
do it...I'll download from you. Just let me know when it's ready.
CORRUPTERBUSTER
April 26th, 2004, 09:11 PM
I just don't see it working.
Let's say you set it up in your closet. Then maybe your ISP contacts you and asks if they can have a look at your connection because they are getting some strange readings.
Further suppose you refuse to give them access and they send police to serve a search warrant on your closet. The whole ordeal could be most upsetting.
Very good now you are starting to see the picture. (Winks) I don't forget.
CORRUPTERBUSTER
April 26th, 2004, 09:17 PM
I think enough has been said about this subject, a lot of negativity though not what I expected. And even an old fried stopped by for a quick visit. I am very impressed with you guys. Thanks for all your comments I will of course take them all into consideration.
Take care I will keep you posted.
The Hunter
April 26th, 2004, 09:23 PM
Or very repetitive, one must study this further. Winks back.
johnsmatrix
April 26th, 2004, 11:11 PM
I have been working on a project for about a year now and I need some input on this idea. The idea is more of a concept idea to give people a chance to download music straight from a running server. You wouldn’t have share with other but just download.
I thought about the idea of a membership then I changed my mind because that is how you attract too many snoopy people. You would be able to download MP3’s at high quality at a brit-rate of 224 compensating for downloading across the net and give you the option of compressing it to a standard MP3 format at a brit-rate of 128. I have also thought about just having it in it’s original wav format but that would take up a lot of space. However if I am going t do something like why not do it right and offer both. Almost like BK have it your way.
I have the server and I am building the webpage as we speak now I look for ideas from you. Let me know what you would want from a service like this.
Ok fine... I would like a search engine or the ability to sort alphabetically. I wouldn't care about ads too much as long as there werent an odd number of pop-ups. Of course it would have to be a current selection of music as well as older types.. Perhaps sorting by year/alblum/genere...Also why stop at movies...perhaps in the future you could offer software... usefull tools with out spyware..Tools to edit websites/photos/// or a new antivirus program.... Actually you could stream movies and/or offer downloads of movies....Same deal...All you would need is a high speed connection and set a spare computer up in your house and then you would just have to worry about your dsl/cable apps...Later on you could add banners/ads which would pay for the additional costs involved in hosting such a benificial website... :devil2
CORRUPTERBUSTER
April 26th, 2004, 11:22 PM
Or very repetitive, one must study this further. Winks back.
Time will tell old frirend time will tell.
crackerjacker
September 13th, 2005, 04:35 PM
hmm interesting thread
bump