Peerguardian Safety

[DefCoN]

I use peerguardian 100% of the time i am on the computer.
However alot of websites get blocked that i wanna see..I know i can turn it off to view them but its a pain..lol
Would you suggest keeping it off while surfing the net?..And just have it on when downloading whatever off p2p programs?

[notbob]

the fact that websites are blocked at all should be a sign that their lists are useless

you'd be as safe without it as you would be with it (that level being not very)

if you use public p2p, you take a risk--if you can't deal with that, don't use public p2p

[fireforce555]

I use peerguardian 100% of the time i am on the computer.
However alot of websites get blocked that i wanna see..I know i can turn it off to view them but its a pain..lol
Would you suggest keeping it off while surfing the net?..And just have it on when downloading whatever off p2p programs?



I really wouldnt run it while NOT using a filesharing program. Theres really no point. In additon to blocking some sites it of course uses your CPU. Now you know PG wont 100% protect you from being busted right? Its just a little thing that might help. Mainly I noticed it serves me by blocking the download of fake files on kazaa. When I first started running it, I noticed many downloads even with 50+ sources said that it needed more because it couldnt connect, I couldnt understand why but then I looked at my PG log, it was blocking hundreds of attempts to log on to "fake servers". So yeah it has its uses, but dont place all your safety on it.

[johnsmatrix]

I agree. Peerguardian's real use if for P2P.. I wouldn't use it for regular surfing...

[method]

You can allow connections to port 80 via the options in PG but of course, that'll leave you exposed to anybody listening on.. or ..connecting out via port 80.

You will soon be able to enter a website address into PG and it will find the IP/range and exclude it from blocking automatically for you. (work in progress, release due in the next 2 weeks)

[Krell]

You can allow connections to port 80 via the options in PG but of course, that'll leave you exposed to anybody listening on.. or ..connecting out via port 80.

You will soon be able to enter a website address into PG and it will find the IP/range and exclude it from blocking automatically for you. (work in progress, release due in the next 2 weeks)

I cant help you benchmark it until June. When I get a copy, I will run it thru some tests. I am interested in the import\exportabity of the addresses and ranges.

It would be nice to block not only the FBI, RAII, MPAA known IP ranges, but also some of the malicious porn and warez sites.

Attached is a reg file that will import a list of malicious sites in to your registry for IE to block, but I would rather have this info processed elsewhere, than have a (more) bloated registry.

I would also like to see the list that Spybot uses importable, if this is possible.

Finally, I would like to see it exportable to Sygate Pro Firewall as an Advanced Rules list(s).




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[shawners]

not that its useless.. its just blocking a wide range.. i would look at your site to see what the IP is.. and find it and unblock it. I keep it on, and i get blocks on bit torrent.. So its helpful. WHy else would the file be half way downloading.. from the users then start blocking ip's i put in that says kazaa fake hashes, or RIAA..

[method]

(I'm gonna be hated for thread resurrection today!!)

New PG is in the pipeline and due soon... (Kernal-level blocking, ALL protocols, 0% CPU)

More info... http://methlabs.org/methlabs.htm

So if you are going to benchmark it Krell.. might as well wait til v2.0.

[matt merch]

peergurdian is about as useful as a tinfoil hat

[crackerjacker]

peergurdian is about as useful as a tinfoil hat

so dont use it if you dont want too no ones forcing you to use it.

[tackdaddy]

well matt you are about as useful as a tinfoil hat.i love peerguardian i use it whenever i use a p2p program.thanks to method make making this handy program,keep up th good work.

[matt merch]

well matt you are about as useful as a tinfoil hat.i love peerguardian i use it whenever i use a p2p program.thanks to method make making this handy program,keep up th good work.

keep telling yourself it will work you may even believe it

[swamphox]

the fact that websites are blocked at all should be a sign that their lists are useless

you'd be as safe without it as you would be with it (that level being not very)

if you use public p2p, you take a risk--if you can't deal with that, don't use public p2p

got any good suggestions for non public p2p?

[method]

I'm assuming Matt's referring to the whole IP blocking genre of apps as a whole..

Well... it got triggered by the first fakes people have found on Shareaza. (ask shawners) It helps people get cleaner downloads on some p2ps. (reported hundreds of times!!) - It has blatantly saved people from many validated p2p-enemy IPs in the past (including BayTSP) - peerguardian.net was full of reports from users to this effect and after reporting that they've been targetted.. the blocked IPs still matched those companies.

We can't guarantee that a few won't slip through the net and nobody has ever claimed that PG or similar application are 100% or even 50% effective... BUT... PG offers at least a statistically significant reduced risk of being caught sharing files.

I've based my opinion on user reports/feedback, user IP-blocking logs/firewall logs, general research into the relevant companies and experience from coding my own applications that can hunt for companies/IPs that screw with the p2p networks.

Please let me know what you've based your opinion on Matt.. Thanks dewd. :)

[matt merch]

if the ip are static that p2p enemies are using then a ip blockin list may be useful but i am sure the p2p enemies have access like anyone to peerguardians list so they are well aware of what is going on it may offer a small level of protection but i talk to a lot of ppl who feel peer gurdian is the complete answer dont fool yourself that you are safe because you use this app use it sure but be awrae you are still at risk

[tackdaddy]

just like method said you can never be fully protected but if it gives you a little protection is better than nothing at all.at least method is trying to help protect people and making a effort to help people.....tell us MATT what have you done to help fellow p2p'ers?until you put in the kinda work method has done STFU and quit being so critical.

[spikky219]

peerguardian is useful because it block those bastard riaa/mpaa.and all of there ***holes