Sick of bash polls/threads? [Archive]

Sephiroth

April 15th, 2004, 06:24 PM

Am I the only one who is REALLY sick of the polls meant to bash another Zeropaid member?
especially the "Do you think $USER should be banned?" polls and the "$MODERATOR is a jerk and needs to be stripped of his power because $REASON" If there is a legitimate dispute there are better ways to go about voicing your complaints.

Yes im sick of them, problems between memebers need to be taken up with a moderator and let them deal with it, thats our job. When people start doing things on their own, it only leads to more problems, flaming and etc.

As for the numerous polls about me, im not going to let the personal problems that a small group of people have about me, interfere with the forums, if they have a problem with me then they can take it up with me. Because its not a forum issue, its their personal issue. Im sorry i didnt do it sooner maybe it would have spared the vast majority of people here the drama and bickering.

IHATEJIMMYPAGE

April 15th, 2004, 06:25 PM

I think negative opinions are just as valid as positive opinions...

notbob

April 15th, 2004, 06:27 PM

As for the numerous polls about me, im not going to let the personal problems that a small group of people have about me, interfere with the forums, if they have a problem with me then they can take it up with me. Because its not a forum issue, its their personal issue. Im sorry i didnt do it sooner maybe it would have spared the vast majority of people here the drama and bickering.

it is always easier to blame others than to look at oneself, isn't it?

it would be a shame if you stepped outside yourself and saw yourself as others do. you might actually learn from the experience

denial is an awful thing

downloadalot

April 15th, 2004, 06:27 PM

It is a forum issue that needs to be adressed.

Sephiroth

April 15th, 2004, 06:36 PM

It is a forum issue that needs to be adressed.

How it is a forum issue. What forum policy or structure is the issue here? Singling out one mod that they "hate" for personal reasons like people like notbob here is not a forum issue, forum issues are not specific to one person, and if it is a forum issue and involves moderators then it involves how things are done by all the moderators.

To be fair for a while i thought the reasons for deleted threads were publically viewable. They are not, that was a mistake. All the other issues were already changed and not because of the flaming and spamming and playing the blame game that has been going on either.

shawners

April 15th, 2004, 06:39 PM

Its pointless and stupid to have a Do you believ in God thread, or does God exist.. Obviously these threads should be closed as fast as the hate seph threads.. or just as fast.

Jorge

April 15th, 2004, 06:46 PM

I think ppl should stick to creating intelligent threads, not bandwidth wasting polls such as the ones i have spoted over the past couple days.

IHATEJIMMYPAGE

April 15th, 2004, 06:52 PM

why is it pointless??, i only just joined ZP, but from what i've seen it is much more than just file-sharing-troubleshooting-polling-reference place, it's much much more, and the site is much greater because it hasn't strictly limited itself to one topic...only good comes out of ZP providing discussion of areas outside filesharing...

downloadalot

April 15th, 2004, 06:54 PM

How it is a forum issue. What forum policy or structure is the issue here? Singling out one mod that they "hate" for personal reasons like people like notbob here is not a forum issue, forum issues are not specific to one person,

It is a forum issue. It is not a matter of structure or policy. When you have the vast majority of active posters who have the same problem with the way a particular mod (no for personal reasons, for public reasons since the moderation affects everybody here and not just "me" or "you") it becomes a forum issue. If you add up 100 personnal issues for the same thing, become public issues.

"and if it is a forum issue and involves moderators then it involves how things are done by all the moderators."

Sorry man you're alone on this one. You dont ear complains about other mods (not to that extent). Its about the way you use your power, not about the policies, stucture, hierarchie or what not.

You see, its a forum issue. A forum issue all about you. I'm beginning to think you enjoy all this, beeing the center of attention and all this. Thinks havent changed since I joined a year ago. These exact same threads could have been written over a year ago.

notbob

April 15th, 2004, 06:54 PM

I think ppl should stick to creating intelligent threads, not bandwidth wasting polls such as the ones i have spoted over the past couple days.

i think admins should listen to the members' concerns, since the members, not the mods, are the ones who make the site what it is

but yeah, a set of blinders and a sheet of denial is probably a better solution. just like a fire--why throw water on it? it'll just burn itself out eventually, right?

downloadalot

April 15th, 2004, 06:57 PM

Its pointless and stupid to have a Do you believ in God thread, or does God exist.. Obviously these threads should be closed as fast as the hate seph threads.. or just as fast.

It his not pointless nor stupid. It is one of the deepest question man has ever asked. Plus people really beleive in that shit.

notbob

April 15th, 2004, 07:00 PM

Its pointless and stupid to have a Do you believ in God thread, or does God exist.. Obviously these threads should be closed as fast as the hate seph threads.. or just as fast.

hey! he wants to censor ideas he disagrees with, and has a cursory grasp of the english language! make that man a mod!

begoodbebad

April 15th, 2004, 07:19 PM

bash threads/polls: pointless ugly and stupid. doesn't really matter what the content is or if I agree or disagree with it (speaking as someone who has managed to piss off Jorge with one post and have another deleted by Sephiroth this week). oh yeah those bash threads and polls have one other quality: very very boring. a bit of flaming and/or trolling...well sometimes people really ask for it and sometimes....you just do it cos you can and cos its fun and its funny but a long campaign to keep pushing one person into inevitable actions which he is accountable for and can't avoid....that sucks....I can't see who it helps. I think, like most people here, that too many threads are closed for totally obscure or mistaken reasons and that whole subject should be reviewed by all the mods as equals or things won't ever get worked out, but most people who get permanently banned have really worked hard to get to that point.

I think ppl should stick to creating intelligent threads, not bandwidth wasting polls such as the ones i have spoted over the past couple days
I think we should all use as much bandwidth as we like as long as we are within the rules, it isn't our concern as members and it shouldn't be brought up in the forums, it's strictly an admin matter. . Already two of the best longrunning, friendly, non controversial, everyone can join in, threads here have become totally lame because you can't see the pictures anymore...that is the desktops thread and the photography thread. its a big loss for certain of us.

Sephiroth

April 15th, 2004, 07:21 PM

It is a forum issue. It is not a matter of structure or policy. When you have the vast majority of active posters who have the same problem with the way a particular mod (no for personal reasons, for public reasons since the moderation affects everybody here and not just "me" or "you") it becomes a forum issue. If you add up 100 personnal issues for the same thing, become public issues.

"and if it is a forum issue and involves moderators then it involves how things are done by all the moderators."

Sorry man you're alone on this one. You dont ear complains about other mods (not to that extent). Its about the way you use your power, not about the policies, stucture, hierarchie or what not.

You see, its a forum issue. A forum issue all about you. I'm beginning to think you enjoy all this, beeing the center of attention and all this. Thinks havent changed since I joined a year ago. These exact same threads could have been written over a year ago.

I dont think the majority of people here have a personal problem with me, they have a problem with me because they dont get slack on the forum rules, or because what happened with their buddies or whatever.

I dont care if the "cool kids" dont like that but moderating needs to be consistent between all members. Its not fair and its not consistent to let senior members abuse the forums especially towards other upstanding members simply because they have more posts.

In fact even one of jimithings numerous clone names posted that the problem here is that senior members feel they didnt get the slack they felt they deserve.

This is not good and i think many others will agree that this kind of thing has to be stopped. These forums are here for everyone, that is a goal from the beginning and is nothing new. If im wrong about that and if it was "just me" as it has been assumed then i probably would have been booted a long time ago.

notbob

April 15th, 2004, 07:28 PM

another good one was the "show yourself" thread, and the fofs site

lots of people posted, we saw these faceless, nameless, people as other human beings

i don't mind being reprimanded by fellow human beings--i do however take offense when some faceless, nameless guy hiding behind a handle tries to tell me what to do or what to think

zeropaid (was?) a community of fellow humans having a good time together--why didn't seph want to be in that community? i don't know. i'd much rather relate to him as a human being than as a cartoon character and some lame catch phrases, which is the only way i can right now

Dark Messenger

April 15th, 2004, 07:29 PM

I didn't "quote" anyone here...and I'm not typing this out of anger or with malicious intentions. Notbob I think you are cool...legitamitly cool person and no not because he stands up to and challenges authority figures..but because he speaks his conscience and his mind and unashamedly..he is a real true person..and has character.

Jorge..zeropaid now has a reputation among slashdotters..if you will as being the lowest common denominator in the p2p community..originally I thought the problem was Sephiroth too...now it seems the ultimate responsibility is to you..zeropaid is what you as its visionary founder and leader make of it..it is what you want it to be.

Sephiroth you did a great job in the beginning..but it is time you stepped down and let others take the helm..cast down your 'mantle' as elijah did to elisha (in the bible) and allow someone else a turn at forming the future fate of filesharing here at this forlorn forum.

All mods currently in place need removal..as they have been tainted with the corruption of 'krell' who is out of touch with reality spending far too much in his fantasy online world and not enough time with others.

Allow me to take over the helm here..and control every aspect from the horizontal to the verticle and you will see a change for the better...you will see zeropaid take a bold new direction that will delight you and admonish you...a filesharing renaissance led by the master architect and builder known to you as the dark messenger who in this juncture speaks hope for you.

Here is an observation:
The first time anyone cries 'foul' in a forum in a post to a thread in a messageboard..that thread is closed immediately because one tiny mouse squeaked..the major squeakers are
1)nazrules
2)kyle06
and
3)method77

The two or three mods who are quick to close threads are:
1)Janet999
2)theHunter
3)Sephiroth

Let me offer you this idea..have you ever heard of 'containment'?...containment means stopping the flow of these 'useless and unnecessary drama's ' as you call them being displayed here now...how is this done?

Simple leave a single thread open for the free voicing of disdain opinion against you as admin or moderation..no matter how bitter the taste or vile the imagery painted in your mind..the hardest thing to take is criticism of one's self.

If you would leave THIS THREAD open..never locked, closed or deleted..and allow members to post their uncensored thoughts and opionions (personal shots left out of it of course. no talking about one's family, race, religion, and no posting of porn or warez)..allow some swearing...then no one would feel the need to make ten separate posts..it could all be contained..and people who have read it and find it uninteresting or themselves offended..have the simple choice to ignore it..if something offends you don't keep looking at it..most people who do...are those who secretly love the very things they profess to hate..like the subject matter of this thread..which is a perceived animosity towards 'mods' and or 'admins' for personal vendettas or other forum affiliations or whatever excuse given in order to negate the validity of the poster or his shared opinion.

thanks for listening.

-Dark Messenger..sincerely hoping this thread doesn't get closed, deleted.

aqlo

April 15th, 2004, 07:40 PM

Hey which choice do I pick if I would like this thread closed too! and dark messager banned.

Stellar

April 15th, 2004, 07:50 PM

I dont care if the "cool kids" dont like that but moderating needs to be consistent between all members. Its not fair and its not consistent to let senior members abuse the forums especially towards other upstanding members simply because they have more posts.

Yes I agree completely.

That should include moderators who flame people who aren't even there.

edit: *other "upstanding" members

begoodbebad

April 15th, 2004, 07:51 PM

zeropaid now has a reputation among slashdotters..if you will as being the lowest common denominator in the p2p community..originally I thought the problem was Sephiroth too...now it seems the ultimate responsibility is to you..zeropaid is what you as its visionary founder and leader make of it..it is what you want it to be. so who are these so cool slashdotters and why should anyone give 2 shits? as far as I can see ZP is not about being exclusive or elitist...it is a portal for everyone with an interest in p2p...

All mods currently in place need removal..as they have been tainted with the corruption of 'krell' who is out of touch with reality spending far too much in his fantasy online world and not enough time with others.

Allow me to take over the helm here..and control every aspect from the horizontal to the verticle and you will see a change for the better...you will see zeropaid take a bold new direction that will delight you and admonish you...a filesharing renaissance led by the master architect and builder known to you as the dark messenger who in this juncture speaks hope for you. so no overinflated ego problem here then....that's good to know. Nice approach tho....say how lame the place is, how it just isn't cool anymore....and then offer yourself as leader...what happened...lose your job?

Here is an observation:
The first time anyone cries 'foul' in a forum in a post to a thread in a messageboard..that thread is closed immediately because one tiny mouse squeaked..the major squeakers are
1)nazrules
2)kyle06
and
3)method77Kyle06????? you are confused. All mods currently in place need removal..as they have been tainted with the corruption of 'krell' who is out of touch with reality spending far too much in his fantasy online world and not enough time with others.
hmmm..he's not the only one with an active imagination is he mr Dark Messenger?

Let me offer you this idea..have you ever heard of 'containment'?...containment means stopping the flow of these 'useless and unnecessary drama's ' as you call them being displayed here now...how is this done?

Simple leave a single thread open for the free voicing of disdain opinion against you as admin or moderation..no matter how bitter the taste or vile the imagery painted in your mind..the hardest thing to take is criticism of one's self.

If you would leave THIS THREAD open..never locked, closed or deleted..and allow members to post their uncensored thoughts and opionions (personal shots left out of it of course. no talking about one's family, race, religion, and no posting of porn or warez)..allow some swearing...then no one would feel the need to make ten separate posts..it could all be contained..and people who have read it and find it uninteresting or themselves offended..have the simple choice to ignore it..if something offends you don't keep looking at it..most people who do...are those who secretly love the very things they profess to hate..like the subject matter of this thread..which is a perceived animosity towards 'mods' and or 'admins' for personal vendettas or other forum affiliations or whatever excuse given in order to negate the validity of the poster or his shared opinion.That is actually a really good idea, best I heard around here for some time. almost everything else you wrote sucks like a sucking thing at a suckathon.

Dark Messenger

April 15th, 2004, 07:59 PM

That is actually a really good idea, best I heard around here for some time. almost everything else you wrote sucks like a sucking thing at a suckathon.

well i'm glad you found at least something to agree with me on. :tu: ;)

thanks,

-DM

lil_amb

April 15th, 2004, 08:00 PM

The only thing I've really seen here that I do not like is the fact that problems w/ the Staff are open to public ridiculing. I am new and I have no idea what ever happened here b4 I was here so I have no judgements on whos right/wrong etc but the fact that there has been at least 3-4 "I hate Seph threads" in the past 2-3 weeks is a bit ridiculous. I feel that this is a forum , it isn't like he's your neighbor...hate him in private.

The staff on any forum is not out there to be anyones friend they are there to do a job.

DudeAsInCool

April 15th, 2004, 08:04 PM

Allow me to take over the helm here..you will see filesharing renaissance led by the master architect and builder known to you as the dark messenger

lol

Here is an observation:
The first time anyone cries 'foul' in a forum in a post to a thread in a messageboard..that thread is closed immediately because one tiny mouse squeaked..the major squeakers are
1)nazrules
2)kyle06 and
3)method77

rofl

Kyle06

April 15th, 2004, 08:10 PM

Here is an observation:
The first time anyone cries 'foul' in a forum in a post to a thread in a messageboard..that thread is closed immediately because one tiny mouse squeaked..the major squeakers are
1)nazrules
2)kyle06
and
3)method77

Wait, what did I do, call me stupid or slow(slow=better) but what do you mean when you say that the thread is closed immediately because one tiny mouse squeaked?...

do you mean like say something bad? cause I ususally don't back talk anyone here maybe have a disagreement but nothing major......

if you speak Kylish I might understand ya

oh and Kylish is mainly speaking plain, NO METAFORS lol

Krell

April 15th, 2004, 08:21 PM

I think ppl should stick to creating intelligent threads, not bandwidth wasting polls such as the ones i have spoted over the past couple days.

And you didnt have a problem with 4,782 freaking RIAA threads!? Or 2,791 ESV threads?

"OMG! Whats your favorite "Down with the RIAA \ Save the universe - I hate the moderators " thread? HUh huh huh?"

Ha HA HA HA HA HA

Ha HA HA Ha
HA

HA HA

HA

HAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHA

.

CompuGeek

April 15th, 2004, 08:23 PM

Hey now, hating Kyle is like saying you want to drown a kitten because it can't do Calculus.

:playboy

Dark Messenger

April 15th, 2004, 08:23 PM

Wait, what did I do, call me stupid or slow(slow=better) but what do you mean when you say that the thread is closed immediately because one tiny mouse squeaked?...

do you mean like say something bad? cause I ususally don't back talk anyone here maybe have a disagreement but nothing major......

if you speak Kylish I might understand ya

oh and Kylish is mainly speaking plain, NO METAFORS lol

okay..there was another thread here i was participating on recently where you asked: "if it's such a problem..why not close or remove it?" it was closed by Janet999 almost as if in response to your request..as if you...one person..were the major voice for the entire forum.

too tired to find that specific thread for you right now..it was a dumb thread and pointless..there are no 'wars' going on here..no one is being physcially harmed in any way shape or form..if something offends you..stop watching it..it's as simple as that.

now that you've read this thread..you have some idea of what it's about..if you don't like it..simply don't click the link for it again..most people secretly enjoy the drama but refuse to admit it..thinking that by forming the appearance of being offended it somehow makes them look more mature or something..i dunno really..i'm quite tired..had a hard day at work today..so we'll see what transpires tomorrow.

one last note: please remove the ability for members to delete their own posts..if the person who started this thread deletes the first post in it..all these other comments go right along with it.

okay, nite folks..and my apologies to the offended..just be careful you don't protest too much or i may think you secretly enjoy it ;)

Kyle06

April 15th, 2004, 08:34 PM

okay..there was another thread here i was participating on recently where you asked: "if it's such a problem..why not close or remove it?" it was closed by Janet999 almost as if in response to your request..as if you...one person..were the major voice for the entire forum.

Did you ever stop to think maybe, she wanted to close the thread but was just waiting for someone to say something I mean the thread was old and there was no point of bringing it back up... I mean when Rickio sounded like we was going to close it also, I mean come on think about it....

For those that don't want to look for the thread that he was talking about here it is

http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=11984&page=3&pp=15&highlight=close+remove

shawners

April 15th, 2004, 08:37 PM

Well seeing how we ended up being a file sharing site.. and not a religion church group site. I hate seeing people say they dont believe in God, cause its along list to put on my prayer list... People arent always going to agree and everyones at a point in their lifes where their mind is made up if their is a God or if theirs not.

shawners

April 15th, 2004, 08:45 PM

Hey now, hating Kyle is like saying you want to drown a kitten because it can't do Calculus.

:playboy

or spell calculus :P~

I think zeropaid is becoming to place where their is two sides.. and later its going to be a rebellion..

WHy cant we download more, and help the noobs more. without createing polls or threads that will only build up a flame war or go on forever quoting each other.trying to get someone that will never agree with you to agree with you when they got so heated and frustrated that they will never quit arguing to even see your point of view or acknowledge that its a reasonable understanding.

Ken17625

April 15th, 2004, 08:53 PM

Dark Messenger,

You're either the greatest prankster comedian on the planet, or you're serious, and in need of mental help.

I thought you were joking. Please tell me you're joking. Please.

**Waits to see if his fragile reality will be shattered**

Lehk

April 15th, 2004, 09:23 PM

....Already two of the best longrunning, friendly, non controversial, everyone can join in, threads here have become totally lame because you can't see the pictures anymore...that is the desktops thread and the photography thread. its a big loss for certain of us.

Does the forum code allow linking to remote images? (I do that for Fark Photoshop contests but I'm not really familiar with vBullitin image handling) if not that could help bandwith on image intensive threads.

/going off topic on a thread I started

Sephiroth

April 15th, 2004, 09:46 PM

Does the forum code allow linking to remote images? (I do that for Fark Photoshop contests but I'm not really familiar with vBullitin image handling) if not that could help bandwith on image intensive threads.

/going off topic on a thread I started

Yeah its the [img] tag. I think you can even attact pictures, the faces of file sharing site is set up just for pictures, and its much better than the forums in doing it. I dont care if people create desktop threads as long as they understand when we clean up old threads they are the first ones to go which is usually months after its died out anyways.

another good one was the "show yourself" thread, and the fofs site

lots of people posted, we saw these faceless, nameless, people as other human beings

i don't mind being reprimanded by fellow human beings--i do however take offense when some faceless, nameless guy hiding behind a handle tries to tell me what to do or what to think

zeropaid (was?) a community of fellow humans having a good time together--why didn't seph want to be in that community? i don't know. i'd much rather relate to him as a human being than as a cartoon character and some lame catch phrases, which is the only way i can right now

Did you ever stop to think that maybe i have no way to get my picture onto a pc even if i wanted too or did you just assume all that automatically? I dont think its too hard to understand why im not exactly going to be best buddies with the same people who flame me either.

As for faces of file sharing, for whatever reason my account doesnt work there, dunno why, i did register another account which i use just there..

notbob

April 15th, 2004, 09:53 PM

Did you ever stop to think that maybe i have no way to get my picture onto a pc even if i wanted too or did you just assume all that automatically? I dont think its too hard to understand why im not exactly going to be best buddies with the same people who flame me either.

As for faces of file sharing, for whatever reason my account doesnt work there, dunno why, i did register another account which i use just there..

you are at a college--i will guarantee there are digital cameras, scanners, etc in either the IT, library, or art departments

even the piddliest, tiniest community colleges have that stuff (and public libraries)

Sephiroth

April 15th, 2004, 10:19 PM

you are at a college--i will guarantee there are digital cameras, scanners, etc in either the IT, library, or art departments

even the piddliest, tiniest community colleges have that stuff (and public libraries)

Yeah but you dont realize just how big the University of Florida is. The computer labs which are also large, dont have web cams, which i dont need to use the labs anyways. Plus i dont feel like walking all over campus.

Honestly i didnt think its that big of a deal either.

DudeAsInCool

April 15th, 2004, 10:43 PM

As for faces of file sharing, for whatever reason my account doesnt work there, dunno why, i did register another account which i use just there..

I had the same problem. I also had to open up another account to use Faces of Filesharing.

Lehk

April 15th, 2004, 10:59 PM

Thank you Seph for the help with how to do images, I knew how to attach images but did not know the [img] tag.

as for notbob's comment about people "hiding" behind avatars (I am not trying to flame here), I do not see how having a pic of someone tells you anything more than what their DNA was programmed to make them look like, If anything i think someones choice of an avatar to represent them tells at least a little about their personality as they choose to project it while online. Case in point being, just to select someone, I'll pick on Krell for this , I think His Avatar (and back in the day the giant sword guy sig) were totally Badass ( Badass: adj. cool, calm, willing to kill when provoked, also expert, similar words: awesome). That said, how would a picture of what Krell happens to look like in real life or the name given to him by others contribute? I don't see forum posting as "Hiding" at all but instead it is a chance to be yourself.

Ok, this is two posts in a row that are not exactly on topic :cross and worse it is in the thread I created that i am going off topic... oh well.

Ok, to make this a little on topic: I really hope that this thread gives people a chance to step back a bit and realize that Personal attacks are inappropriate and immature.

Siskabush

April 16th, 2004, 12:58 AM

The bash threads are stupid, yes. very.

But whats so bad about the god thread shawners? Is anyone bashing other people there? no, its simple, what do you beleive in?

Man, this place is going to be censored just as bad as Anti-bush news on CNN

YWD67

April 16th, 2004, 01:34 AM

Anyone with a posisiton of authority or control must live in a perpetual state of grey. There can not just have a black and white mind set. Mainly that is how life is in general really. Someone though with with the ability to control the intelectual posting of ideas, beliefs, or conclusions, holds more power then any, law enforcement officer, or law maker. You must live outside the topic and veiw it as a neutral third party while you are in the control posisition. Most people in this posistion of controling the forums have been able to do this. Like other posisions of authortiy there are those who are unable to disconnect themselves personnely from a situation that they have strong personnel feelings about. Wheather it is politics, religion, Santa Claus or what ever you have a strong passion for, you can not let your personnel feelings or beliefs dictate how you use your authrity. To do so you are no longer using the proper authority of control as the rules are laid out. Rather you are a dictaitor who controls by your own set of rules and prioritys. You must also be above personnel attacks. If you are thinned skinned then you are for sure someone who should not seek or be in a possisition of authortiy. Like I said this goes for all levels, cops, politicians, mods, whatever.

cheapprick

April 16th, 2004, 04:06 AM

Anyone with a posisiton of authority or control must live in a perpetual state of grey. There can not just have a black and white mind set.

Personally, I could never afford to maintain the drugs needed to uphold that theory.

However, this thread has pointed out what is truly wrong with the site. Kyle. No doubt his seemingly innocent grammatical errors are some form of dark mind control.

Dark Messenger

April 16th, 2004, 06:20 AM

However, this thread has pointed out what is truly wrong with the site. Kyle. No doubt his seemingly innocent grammatical errors are some form of dark mind control.

MY point exactly and ken I would never shatter ur illusions about me, man. ;)

p.s.

cj roks* ;) :p

unicornstastelikechicken

April 16th, 2004, 10:14 AM

I at least find it intresting that a LOT of forum users seem to think both sides of the situation should be expressed. And if you don't like a thread you don't have to view it. And everyone should try to keep things above personal attacks, but to debate ideas can never be a wrong thing.

Induna

April 16th, 2004, 11:19 AM

Its pointless and stupid to have a Do you believ in God thread, or does God exist.. Obviously these threads should be closed as fast as the hate seph threads.. or just as fast.

Of course God exists H i s n a m e i s S e p h i r o t h !

unicornstastelikechicken

April 16th, 2004, 11:25 AM

Of course God exists H i s n a m e i s S e p h i r o t h !

The we are all totally F***ed... :tilted

Rickio

April 17th, 2004, 01:42 AM

I read the first page and got bored...
this is the most self absorbed forum I have ever seen. Get off it folks and get a life.

Post relevant interesting things and cool it with all the weirdness here.

I couldn't login for a week and I come back and it's lame as can be with all these long boring threads.

peace out

muffenme

April 17th, 2004, 05:46 AM

:fire

I like polls and if it something I don't like then I try to avoid it. I do admit I didn't like the poll under who should be kick off but not enough to do anything against it. People here should lighting up a litttle bit because no matter what some people are going to flame you for what you are or what they think is you.

I was thinking to create a poll but until I find something that worth voting on then I wouldn't but I not stopping anyone from creating a poll base on whatever, ex best batteries on the market or what was the coldest day where you live this winter. If someone does make these I would vote just as easy as if someone made a poll on which p2p server is the best.

:hole