WtF is up w/ overnet/donkey network

[fukwan]

has anyone else using donkey clients had the problem of files just not finishing lately? I'm talking about when the file is 95,98,99% completed and keeps getting a corrupted sliver of data and re-aquiring it again and again. Some of these files finish but take FOREVER.
I'm not sure if this is what I've read as "looping" in other donkey network forums. Anyway it's gotten a lot worse as far as I'm concerned in the last couple months.
I was wondering if anyone knows if this behavior is restricted to my computer, the client I'm using, or the whole donkey network. Also, if anyone can shed light on this phenemenon I'd greatly appreciate it. I'm wondering if this is a bit of sabotage by the MPAA type groups or maybe some scaling limit on the network stretched by too many users.

Thanx,

I'm currently running:
Overnet .52 on WinXP

Please dont name your downloads. Thanks The Hunter.

[crackerjacker]

well u need to have patience with the file finishing.
and u are not supsose to name the files you are downloading anyways.
heres a secret...
use bittorent or better yet newsgroups
you can find whatever u want by using newsgroups.

but have patience with the files downloading
that is all u can do.

-
jfn

[Brycen257]

I use E-Mule and have had some files that do seem to take a while to complete but I assume this is just because sometimes it takes a while to locate the final chunk to complete the file properly . I am certain it would be possible to find a bad chunk and complete the file quicker , but I prefer to wait until a good one has been located .I have had my file of bad files for a life time with Kazaa Lite.

Other things you might try :

1. Exit E-Mule and then restart the program. That refreshes the database and many times will result in the file re-starting.
2. Switch to a different server and experiment with different ones. I have my favorites and I do seem to get more downloads and faster, more reliable downloads there. While in theory, all servers should be equal, the reality doesn't always work out like that and on some days, some servers may be functioning better. Give it a try. What have you got to lose ? :tol

[fukwan]

Apologies to Hunter/Zeropaid for the file namage, total brain fart. The point of naming the files though was to point out the growing problem I've had completing downloads.
I've used eDonkey and Overnet for almost 2 years and only recently have I been getting problems like this w/ such frequency. Before, this problem would pop up every once in a blue moon. Now I'm getting it on almost every new file that's been added to the network in the last couple months. It was not this way before.
I consider myself very patient especially considering what a great network overnet is and all but that doesn't mean I'm not going to point out a possible malfunction that may or may not be simply occuring on my end. The purpose of my post is not to b*tch, but to determine if any other users have experienced this issue increasing in frequency like I have.
Hopefully, by pointing out an issue that may be affecting other users, it can be dealt with.
I hope I've made myself clearer on this point.

Brycen257: I don't utilize Emule, it doesn't work well w/ my machine and I get very poor results (not talking any smack about it). Overnet is serverless by design. I appreciate your help though.

I've made just about every setting tweek and re-installation I thought would help. I don't use any 3rd party plugins that weren't installed by default.

Thanx,
fukwan

[Bodhisattva/GoldenSilence]

Happens to me sometimes. . . just a quick shutdown/restart of the app, and the file usually completes in just a couple of moments.

EDIT: I use eMule, but it sounds like the same problem.

[gerbilgenocide]

try setting the option on emule to finish the first and last parts of every file first, that mite help

[Rally99]

Fukwan I have used Edoneky and Overnet for about as long as you have. I only had the problem you are talking about when I used the Donkey. I'll get errors in Overnet but I've never seen it loop like you said. I download quite a bit and never have a problem. I would think it depends on what you are downloading, available sources, and what not. Are your sources verified links or are you just searching blindly on filedonkey or the built in search? The files could be corrupt either by the encoder or even the sharer. Especially if these files are new to the network and what not. It may very well be because of the MPAA/RIAA spreading fake files like on Kazaa, but in what I download I don't get errors. Hope this might help.

[begoodbebad]

I've used all the main clients over long periods and never had this problem. Or if it has happened it didn't seem like a problem. It has more to do with user expectation and an impatience to get that file completed! Yes some files take a long long time before they are complete. When they are at 5% or 10% or 50% or 80% and the download stops and starts or is only a tiny trickle you probably won't notice...but at 95% or 99% it's suddenly a big issue, that's all. Just leave them in your q, they will complete. I had a file complete yesterday...I hadn't seen a complete source for several weeks and thought maybe I never would but I just left it there anyway....so yesterday I wake up, switch on the monitor....a big green bar! I listened to the completed file(mp3 in a rar)....and deleted it, it was crap.

There are certainly a few bugs with all the different ed2k clients but nearly all the "faults" "bugs" "errors" that people encounter can be cured with one simple instruction: "just wait" :;) .

[downloadalot]

I saw a thread about a similar problem and someone suggested that it was some sort of trick : a part of the file was hidden on purpose, so you thing your download is not finished. This way, you keep sharing the file, when in fact the download is complete and you could stop sharing it. Something like that. Cant find the thread though.

[warez-wolph]

Are you using Zone Alarm for a firewall? If so ditch it. It interfers with Overnet big time.

[begoodbebad]

I saw a thread about a similar problem and someone suggested that it was some sort of trick : a part of the file was hidden on purpose, so you thing your download is not finished. This way, you keep sharing the file, when in fact the download is complete and you could stop sharing it. Something like that. Cant find the thread though.No you're wrong. This happens with Bit Torrents, not on ed2k. Here is the link to the discussion about it on ZP BT forum http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=19005

@fukwan. If this is really a looping download or a file that is not ever completeing even when you can see that it is complete on the network then you need to head over to the overnet/edonkey forums and make some searches on the subjects of "looping" and/or "complete". I believe you're going to be learning how to use Big Willy's MetFileRegenerator
....actually I am in a good mood(just ate a big pizza :tilted ) so here is a direct link to exactly the right place: http://forum.overnet.com/viewtopic.php?t=57072

@warez-wolf: well yes ZA does suck but that has absolutely nothing to do with this problem at all.

But you should do the searches anyway cos lots of people have used this and you can get an idea of what to expect when you have a go.

[crackerjacker]

i must add one other thing. newsgroups are good for getting movies as well.
:)
and ebay sells movies for cheap as well :)

[fukwan]

Alright, I appreciate all the comments but I still don't think most of you understand what's going on, and let me reiterate that I haven't disregarded the possibility that this is simply my machine acting up.

a bit of history: I've used this client (eDonkey and Overnet since they're both pretty much the same) for over a year. In all that time, I've gotten files that looped and I either gave up eventually or I waited and it finally came through, but "looping" wouldn't occur very often.
Then, last month, the problems started: I've got 11 files now sitting on the top of my queue, all at 97% or greater, most are very well shared files, all are very large (700 M's). I've been able to download other files, even large ones, but the ones that are stalling are ones that must have been added to the network (hashed) in the last couple months. This is vastly different than anything I've encountered so after patiently waiting three weeks for these to finish I began to wonder if anyone else had this problem because these were new files.
As an example, I started to download three popular files (from an indexing site) of a set of three which I will name:
famous.file.part1of3
famous.file.part2of3
famous.file.part3of3

I download famous.file.part1of3 w/o a hitch. the other two are looping again and again for a week. So I think there's some issue with corruption, maybe my computer got shut down so I cancel part2 and part3 and try again. Same result. That was last month. They're still here. Meanwhile other situations like that one occur, for example another 2 part set where one comes w/o a hitch and the other never finishes. I searched around for looping but every description and solution didn't do a thing. Yes, I've used metFileRegenerator... last month. It occurred to me to simply throw up a post to see if this was a growing problem that no one has mentioned yet, since it was so recent for me.
I'll probably give this another few days to see if anyone has seen anything like this and just dump everything and start over, no harm no foul.
Anyway, I do think that Overnet is the BEST client out there despite all this, which is why I'm willing to question things if something seems suspicious. I don't think it's out of the question for the RIAA/MPAA to program a few P2P clients to f'up downloads, like fake a hash file and corrupt everything. See, I'm protective. So, if anyone has any "internal" experience (like programing plugin's or similar clients) or knows of any forums where that help is available, I would like to be informed of what may be going on. But, if everyone else's client is okay, then the network is fine and it's no biggie.

Thanks everyone,
fukwan

[begoodbebad]

If you didn't already then go and ask your question in the edonkey/overnet forum, use their search and ask the right questions....being specific saves us all wasting our time trying to help doesn't it?

If those links came from a verifieds site they are probably good. If they came from a donkey search they could be anything at all...what do you expect?.

[Sephiroth]

Removed the flaming posts because its against the forum rules. (http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/announcement.php?f=7)

[Psilaxs]

I have been having the same problems with a couple of files, one being a racing game, it goes all the way to 83.80% then continues to loop endlessly, i have let this go on for 3-4 months (YES MONTHS) About a year ago i was able to get this file just fine, not anymore. Something is definately wrong with the network, almost as if it was certain files/ the network was sabotaged.

BTW, this is using overnet

[fukwan]

Psilaxs: what kinds of files are these? are any of them movies? are they all large ( over 100M )? are some of them files that would have been added to the network in the last 3 or 4 months?


Note: I've downloaded v.53 of overnet (claims to have fixed looping DLs) and the files that I had trouble with before, even after restarting from scratch, are still not completing.