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View Full Version : Kurt Cobain 10 Years ago today
arobinson
April 7th, 2004, 07:03 PM
Gee 10 Years goes quick http://www.ludd.luth.se/misc/nirvana/misc/dead.html
Potato
April 7th, 2004, 08:06 PM
I thought it was the 5th or 6th or something, whatever night I ended up watching 2 hours of Nirvana videos.
Mels_Smileys45
April 7th, 2004, 08:56 PM
At least we have the Foo Fighters! Its sad though. After the release of "You Know Your Right" I just wonder what could have been.
shawners
April 7th, 2004, 09:15 PM
what could of been of what?? I remember when they broke out of seattle.. NIRVANA came out and was signed to Geffen records. He was living on the street the day his album came out.. Got evicted because he had no money for rent. Its sad the music industry killed him. Obviously if you work close to somebody or saw the signs. They could of got him help.. But they ignored it and knew they had tons of material to release after his death.. which they did release lots of albums afterwards of things recorded in studio. They didnt have to give him a cut. And they figured Courtney love be strung out and die a little afterwards so they would have more money.
tackdaddy
April 7th, 2004, 09:40 PM
his death is no more important than anyone else,he was a fucking drug addict.he made the choice that led to his death,it was nobody's fault but his own.
Skywire
April 7th, 2004, 09:47 PM
Curt Cobain was just a burnout asshole with a slight bit of talent. So what he's dead! He would have burnt himself out no matter what. Too bad his asshole wife hasn't done it yet!
g-smooth2k
April 7th, 2004, 11:01 PM
I do remember about the Kurt Cobain incident back in the 90's. Kurt's suicide was from druqs, but he was a good kid before the drugs killed him. He would probably be still alive if without the usage of druqs. I wonder how is Courtney doing with the kids.
cheapprick
April 7th, 2004, 11:06 PM
This guy defined music for a generation. Doesn't matter what people think of him, his stuff is going to be remembered after most of us are toast.
Potato
April 8th, 2004, 12:17 AM
The state took the child away from Courtney Love because she's a nut drug addict. The girl is 11 now. Frances Bean.
I'm not sure what's up with that case now. She does all sorts of stupid shit and I'm glad she's not getting away with it.
Mels_Smileys45
April 8th, 2004, 12:40 AM
Theres a good documentary you should "look" up, Kurt and Courtney, that really presses Love on questions of Kurts death. It will make you believe she had a hand in his death. It makes her out to be the bitch she is.
nasrules
April 8th, 2004, 02:05 AM
Curt Cobain was just a burnout asshole with a slight bit of talent. So what he's dead! He would have burnt himself out no matter what. Too bad his asshole wife hasn't done it yet!
Now, see, that's the attitude of someone who just can't accept other people's opinions. Fair enough if you think he was an asshole, but his music has affected millions of people, both during his life and after his death. Anyone who thinks Nirvana weren't a 'great' band due to the effect they had on music is just plain ignorant, IMHO.
Lord_of_the_Dense
April 8th, 2004, 09:22 AM
When I first heard "Smells Like Teen Spirit" I couldn't stand it. I think I was new to the Seattle scene or something. A few months later, I was hooked and have enjoyed Nirvana ever since. I think it to be a shame that Cobain is no longer here. Much as CP has stated above, music would not be the same without the presence of Nirvana touching the world's ears. I will never regret enjoying them and the memories their music has provided. It is unfortunate that so much drama manifested after Cobain's death. I hope that Dave, Chris & Courtney all find their peace in life soon so that we can focus on the great things that they have contributed, rather than the scandals and bitterness that we already have in the world.
RACKnRAIL
April 8th, 2004, 09:55 AM
This guy defined music for a generation. Doesn't matter what people think of him, his stuff is going to be remembered after most of us are toast.
That is it in a nutshell! And besides, what rock star wasn't a drug addict at some time? Even Pat Boone inhaled!
riderx
April 8th, 2004, 10:05 AM
hmm nirvana rocks man. i got hooked on nirvana and its because of nirvana that i took a great interest in other types of music generes. I use to listen to house music, freestyle, techno. Once again they rock.
Miniver
April 8th, 2004, 12:27 PM
Kurt isn't dead! He lives with Elvis, and plays bocce with Jimi Hendrix and Janis Joplin.
Mels_Smileys45
April 8th, 2004, 02:40 PM
I wish rock would make a comeback. I hate this pussy Mtv bullplop these days!
Skywire
April 10th, 2004, 12:59 PM
Now, see, that's the attitude of someone who just can't accept other people's opinions. Fair enough if you think he was an asshole, but his music has affected millions of people, both during his life and after his death. Anyone who thinks Nirvana weren't a 'great' band due to the effect they had on music is just plain ignorant, IMHO.
Yeah, grundge is one of the zeniths of human civilization! The point is wether or not he became famous with the slacker generation aside, he would have crashed and burned no matter what! He was a shithead burnout.
nasrules
April 10th, 2004, 01:33 PM
I'm not saying grunge is a zenith of civilisation, but I am saying that it (and Nirvana in particular) changed music in a way that a number of bands have done in the past. People liked his music and people liked his attitude.
Maybe he would have crashed and burned anyway, but that's not the point. That being that he changed people's lives, whether you like it or not.
tackdaddy
April 10th, 2004, 03:19 PM
i think nirvana was overrated,they started at the right time when grunge music went big and they got lucky.mtv played that video 30 times a day.cobain was nothing but dopped out rocker who took the cowards way out of life.i have no respect for anyone who takes thier own life.
Mels_Smileys45
April 10th, 2004, 05:01 PM
I happen to have known two people that have taken their own life and saying they took the "easy way out" is a sick statement. Some people have problems that are beyond our understanding. Dont be quick to judge some one elses faults when you dont know what led to the end result. Drugs had a big role in Kurts mental state of being but that didnt make him a bad person. He also had bad health problems people know little about. The point Im trying to make is that its easy to show your disrespect but a better person would try and offer a bit of compassion and understanding.
His music is a matter of debate. Depending on your taste of music youll either love it or hate it. If you listen to Mtv youll probably hate it because they never played their good music. My opinion is he was a musical genius who will be remebered with the likes of Jimi Hindrix and even John Lennon.
Ken17625
April 10th, 2004, 07:25 PM
i have no respect for anyone who takes thier own life.
That's ok, because judging by your worded tone, I’m sure you don't show much respect to the living either. People should consider that, and I think you'll see a reduction in the amount of suicides. Some people are genetically or otherwise screwed, but some could have been saved, had it not been for the presence of "piles of rotting parasitical shit".
Now, I won’t get into the “who cares, the less people, the better” or the “survival of the fittest” because I’ve ran those thoughts through my head, just as they’ve appeared in others heads I imagine, and it doesn’t make any rational sense to me at all. Who’s to say that mere survival is the guiding purpose for all of humanity? It’s a very narrow point of view to have. Who’s to say that the person who killed themselves wasn’t “important” to another’s existence? What is importance? It brings about some very basic questions, which can only “answered”, if one’s mind approves of it.
Now, Cobain was screwed from the beginning. His death could not have been prevented. A naturally depressed person, with a drug habit, is not someone I expect to live long.
But this isn’t the point, as much as Nirvana’s impact on music as a whole. Whether you liked them or not, they changed music for the better. I just wish they were around today, to counteract some of the bullshit music.
I guess we’ll have to keep wishing for more Mel. There are some incredible bands out there today, but we need more.
Shadow, Thief of the Sun
April 10th, 2004, 08:24 PM
I actually think that there was no such genre as "grunge" and it was created by media and journalists who wanted to make a quick buck. Can you actually compare Soundgarden to Alice in Chains or Nirvana to Mother Love Bone ? I don't think so - these bands were from Seattle and they were playing hard rock and were actually quite different.
But at least some of the worst hair metal bands careers were over & Michael Bolton wasn't so popular in the 90's.
TheScaryOne
April 10th, 2004, 09:03 PM
Y'know, I am no rap fan, but $100 says that in a year that no one will post anything about Eazy-E. He'll be dead ten years March 26th of next year, and he helped make Rap. Nirvana didn't help make Rock. Sure, maybe they contributed, but all artists conrtibute. Maybe it's because he blew his fucking head off instead of dying a slow death of a disease.
tackdaddy
April 10th, 2004, 09:50 PM
hey scaryone i always remember eazy he was a true rap icon but most do'nt care cause he was a gangster rap artist.as far as my compassion for life i have alot of it but he had a kid and killing yourself is not the way to take away your problems.killing yourself only causes more by hurting your family and friends.i have had many problems but have never even thought of taking my life.
tidal
April 10th, 2004, 11:15 PM
/hops on pulpit
why do people give such a crap about him today? it's true he was a burn out and it was his own personal choice to do drugs. Nobody said "Kurt you're successful... now do some drugs and die" he chose his own end. The music was ok and courtney love needs to join her dead hubby... she's annoying. ok done. not trying to troll just giving my $0.02
Mels_Smileys45
April 11th, 2004, 02:14 AM
Here people, learn something http://health.yahoo.com/health/centers/depression/0926.html
Bipolar disorder is the cause of most suicides. Its an inballance in the brain. Thats why you cant understand why these people do their self in. They are not in a sain state of mind, like in the case of kurt, the use of drugs makes it even worse. Alot of people with bipolar disorder turn to drugs because they think it helps them feel better but it only makes the low that much worse. Kurt had just escaped rehab when he killed himself. He wanted to get better but was unable to over come his illness and short comings.
if you could just tell someone thinking of suicide that its not going to solve any problems and they would snap out of it and be alright, that would be great. But it doesnt work like that. This subject matter hits way to close to home for me and I hope maybe you can understand, these people arent assholes, losers or burnouts. They have a real illness that left untreated leads to the worse possible scenario.
TheScaryOne
April 11th, 2004, 04:11 AM
Mel, I'm bipolar. I know what it's like to hit constant highs and lows. It sucks. A lot. I've contemplated suicide, but never went through with it, and I never will contemplate it again. Life always continues. You have to remember that. Suicide never has been nor will be the answer. There is always another choice, even if it is to do nothing at all.
Mels_Smileys45
April 11th, 2004, 04:25 AM
your right scaryone, 100 percent correct. Somedays its just harder to see the other choices.
love the Clerks pic by the way!
shawners
April 18th, 2004, 01:25 AM
Heres a great link for all you guys to go to!!!!!!!!!!
www.cobaincase.com
Mels_Smileys45
April 18th, 2004, 11:09 PM
Damn thats a cool site shawners. Recomended!!!!!
mfgbypooter
April 24th, 2005, 09:45 PM
I saw Kurt Cobain working in a 7-Eleven just the other day.
When I reached the counter I said, "whazup?"
An he said, "zup?"
That was about it. Paid for my slurpee and split.
TFoS_Fan
April 25th, 2005, 04:35 AM
i'm a Nirvana fan I must admit, so my views are biased. I dont think the music business killed him. I don't think he was just a druggie (how can people possible described a person by an addiction) and anyone who doesn't care about another human beings life is unbelievable. Why does it matter that he is dead? Because he one of the few people who have touched so many people, especially in recent times of such disillusion. When I read about him, he seems so geeky and so "normal". He may have hated the realization of his dream but atleast, unlike most and perhaps myself, he dared to dream and do what he want, in his own way. Kurt Cobain so easily could have been a nothing, but he wasn't, god or fate or something smiled on him and why not, he is as deserving as most.
I dont like hero worship, but I like decent people, and Kurt for his failings, did his best and hey if we all do that we should all be remembered.
Auggie2k
April 25th, 2005, 05:10 AM
Nirvana were the best around at there time and they still are better than a lot of today's bands! Kurt Cobain was a musical genius and his nirvana's album nevermind, just pure class! By the way my location is not celebrating nirvana, I just happen to be a place of complete bliss and delight and peace! It's great fun, happy hour is from 3 to 10!
RobinSena
April 25th, 2005, 08:10 AM
Kurt, Krist, Dave and Nirvana were a breath of fresh air in an otherwise trite and stagnant industry. Heavy, catchy grunge with meaningful songs about co-dependency and depression, Kurt recanting his decision of music industry involvement, and various other problems associated with music was what made Kurt a rock idol. Following the end of the band, the rock world, and music industry as a whole entered another period of stagnation that continues today.
While Nevermind is considered there signature album, In Utero, my favorite album ever, is a contrite and aggresive piece of music that stands as a truly emotional end to an otherwise amazing life to Kurt Cobain. There is no sadder piece of music as In Utero ends with Kurt in a "All in all is all we are" mantra that finalizes what would prove to be Nirvana's final studio album.
Most emotional Songs: Jesus Doesn't want me for a Sunbeam, All Apologies
Heaviest Songs: Milk It, Scentless Apprentice
Best Song Overall (completely subjective) Heart-Shaped Box
ferrarimodena360
April 25th, 2005, 08:29 AM
can some1 give a link to his sucide note
EDIT
got it :D
ratbag
April 25th, 2005, 09:20 AM
man i still remember that day me and a buddy was traveling on a grehound bus between montreal and ottawa when it came over the bus' radio that Kurt Cobain was dead most of the people had no idea who he was but we did and i must admit it was a sad moment that night my band and and i played all Nirvana songs at our show and that bar had a feeling of another great one lost like Jim Morrison was a great voice and still lives on so will Kurt Cobain and Nirvana
K.C
March 13th, 2006, 03:00 PM
OK OK Kurt here my ears are burning man, why all the interest in me?
Krell
March 13th, 2006, 03:08 PM
OK OK Kurt here my ears are burning man, why all the interest in me?
Now we have some nutcase channelling Cobain in a dead thread . . . .
:icon_scra
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origin
March 13th, 2006, 03:16 PM
his music was good while it lasted but as many others have stated he chose to end his own life its sad but true . so rip curt ill say one thing ill continue to enjoy his music for years to come.
l8
mfgbypooter
March 18th, 2006, 06:04 PM
Last time I seen him he was working nights as a cab driver in Chicago.
*
shawners
March 18th, 2006, 06:23 PM
NO ONE.. WOuld think there the best if they didnt release "Smells like teen spirit.' GEFFEN used them as a cashcow and they played david bowie covers, as well as other bands that really had no voice or sound. Im gonna be SO Shocked if they get in the rock and roll hall of fame later on. Even if hes dead, the others will attend. I seen soo many albums released after his dismise. . BOOTLEGS, DEMOS, soundboards, audience recordings, imports, singles, b-sides, unreleased material that was recorded but wasnt finalized to make the album.
Check here
http://www.binsearch.info/?q=nirvana&max=250&adv_age=70&m=
Mels_Smileys45
March 18th, 2006, 11:05 PM
Shawners, what do you listen to? I gotta know! It seems like you like nothing that is considered great music. Trance I bet. Ugghhh, to each his own I guess. The first tape I had of theirs was Bleach and it is still kick ass. Love Buzz is still one of my favorite songs of theirs. "You know Your Right" is also one bad ass cut
Really had no voice or sound
WTF? They kicked off a rock revolution and killed MC hammer and thats all you can say? I strongly disagree to say the least. Not the best band ever but they deserve a bit of credit. They only played covers on the MTV special they did as Im not aware of any covers on the albums they released other than that one.
Even if hes dead, the others will attend.
Sometimes I have to read your posts ten times to discern any meaning. I still don't get this one! lol
shawners
March 19th, 2006, 06:08 AM
Trust me, others already kicked off a REVOLUTION. It was Punk bands that didnt conform to rock and roll. Sex Pistols lived up to it, but im sure there are other faceless groups.. ALICE in Chains face lift came out in 1990. Pearl Jam Ten.
Even U2 was considered a college station band, early 80's there were getting very limited radio play. Soundgarden appeared before Nirvana.. Nirvana is far over rated.. Not that this matters. But everyone has a top list of albums to own. Nevermind would be on there, and even if bleach recieved the KUDOS it deserved, it still didnt have the tracks like "Smell like teen spirit." And thats why Nevermind will be on people/celebs top album list. People put stupid albums on their top list to own, they have to pick a beatles album such like the white album, and a Bob DYLAN classic, with bob marley and the whalers, as well as any women so they can sound cool, and such like etta james. I mention though that Kurt may been considered the talent at the time in the band, that Grohl would attend to accept something that he didnt deserve. He is alot better and got alot of things done as lead singer of the foo fighters or doing drums on other tracks for other artist. But he should go in Rock and roll hall of fame on his own merit. I never laugh so hard before, they were playing this gig.. And I think its SNL, but he threw the guitar up in the air, and came down and hit him in the head.
Top artist i have listend to and like.
Blur
Pixies
Depeche mode
dave matthews
coldplay
u2
sara mclachlan
Junkie XL
Duran Duran
Bon Jovi
Aerosmith
Very limited Sonic youth amount of cd's.
The Muse
The Postal Service, loved there last album =)
STP
Angelfish and Garbage
Metallica Predating their blackest album (They tried a grunge tactic but looks like their wash-outs.
heres my list! Take aloook of whats on, these dont include whats on my dvd backups.
http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=13UWAR13ACWBU093ZN9Q9GPQYE
shallowhall
March 19th, 2006, 06:22 AM
I happen to have known two people that have taken their own life and saying they took the "easy way out" is a sick statement. Some people have problems that are beyond our understanding. Dont be quick to judge some one elses faults when you dont know what led to the end result. Drugs had a big role in Kurts mental state of being but that didnt make him a bad person. He also had bad health problems people know little about. The point Im trying to make is that its easy to show your disrespect but a better person would try and offer a bit of compassion and understanding.
His music is a matter of debate. Depending on your taste of music youll either love it or hate it. If you listen to Mtv youll probably hate it because they never played their good music. My opinion is he was a musical genius who will be remebered with the likes of Jimi Hindrix and even John Lennon.
I agree with you, drug addiction is a desease, and if he had a mentall illness that would agravate the problem even more