Shareaza SUCKS - Cablevision - Legal Notice...

[fcastro]

Highly dissappointed I just got a legal notice from cablevision from the BSA Business Software Alliance that I was sharing illegal software. Can you believe that $hit? I am deleting shareaza completely...

You would think the software could hide your IP info but no its staring me right in the face...

[Lehk]

yea except you cannot make a connection without giving out your IP address unless you want to use freenet

[isus]

lol...

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[que-em]

This discussion has taken place over and over again. In order for someone to make a connection to your computer you need an IP address. In other words they didn't get it from shareaza they got it when they made a connection to what you were "illegally" sharing.

Kazaa doesn't reveal the IP address to you but countless people have been snagged by the RIAA.

[Skeptikal]

Highly dissappointed I just got a legal notice from cablevision from the BSA Business Software Alliance that I was sharing illegal software. Can you believe that $hit? I am deleting shareaza completely...

You would think the software could hide your IP info but no its staring me right in the face...


hey...where are you from ?
cause "cablevision" sounds to me like you live in Mexico... am I right ? 'Cause if you are using this provider to share files, you ARE in big troubles... since Mexican Cablevision uses static LAN IP... and the BSA is monitoring Cablevision 24/7...
It is not shareaza, it is the provider in this specific case...

[baghdad_steve15]

hey...where are you from ?
cause "cablevision" sounds to me like you live in Mexico... am I right ? 'Cause if you are using this provider to share files, you ARE in big troubles... since Mexican Cablevision uses static LAN IP... and the BSA is monitoring Cablevision 24/7...
It is not shareaza, it is the provider in this specific case...

Cablevision is also an American cable company. If he were in mexico I dont think he'd be getting that notice.

http://www.cablevision.com/
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Ip address arent a big secret. For example for you to be able to see the Zeropaid page your client (web browser, i will make a "wild" guess and say you are using IE) sends an request for the page to the zeropaid server (Apache, I hope; im skipping the dns part also...). The data your client sends is your ip address so that the zeropaid web server knows were the hell to send the page. Webservers log everything for security. Which means that right now, unless you are using a proxy, ZP knowns your IP address. Dont be shock thats how the internet works (TCP/IP).

The only real way to have a safe P2P app is to program it to redirect packages all over the place (freenet). What you should really do is just move whatever they are crapping their pants about off your share folder.

[fireforce555]

Just using something other than kazaa doesnt make you 100% safe. I think alot of people dont realize that. They assume that if you arent on kazaa that no one is out there looking to bust you. Well they are. The ONLY way to hide yourself is to use a proxy between you and the person you are sharing with.

Otherwise anytime you connect to someone they can see your IP address. Most likely they just sent a C&D letter to make you stop. Comply with it and keep your nose clean for a long while.

[nasrules]

The only way to be 'safe' is to run through innumerable proxies. Of course then you have to remember that all the proxy data may be logged and any organisations that really want to find you could just follow the chain...

[notbob]

that's right!

blame cablevision! it must be their fault you were sharing something that you shouldn't have been! it's shareazas fault that internet packets need addresses so they know where to go!

at no point should you ever take personal responsibility for your actions!

it has to be someone elses' fault

[MoonMan]

Yep, and I'm going to take the even easier way out and blame Yoda.

Bastard.

[aboi]

its not the program, its your isp

[notbob]

its not the program, its your isp

no, it's what he's sharing

if he shared something else (legal files for instance, or nothing) there would be no problems at all

[Ezza6745]

lol...

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lol thats all I can say too :gj

[begoodbebad]

The only way to be 'safe' is to run through innumerable proxies. Of course then you have to remember that all the proxy data may be logged and any organisations that really want to find you could just follow the chain...

only way to be safe.....go to the store and buy it

[shawners]

Take responsibility for your actions, nothing is as safe as you may think.

[carolinawolf]

anyone use peerguardian? WHY ARE YOU BLAMING SHAREAZA???? :fire

[Cydor]

Shareaza displays your IP in front of you when you download a Bittorrent file.....The RIAA don't have to work that hard to get your IP.

[risingfoam]

although Shareaza displays your IP in front of you.....They don't have to work hard to get it lol

Shareaza is one of the lesser save P2P prog out there in my opinion!


wtf did u just say?

[Cydor]

wtf did u just say?

haha i notice what i just said. :ass

[IshareManyFilez]

Yeah blame shareaza, your computer, your software, your OS, your friends, family, websites, hell how about the world.

[TheBlackSnow]

If you wanna to know my opinion, I don't advise to use shareaza. 1. the overall sucks 2.I can't say, that there are a lot of music or videos. I don't know, why I should use it: for video, music... :D No, thx

[failed_experiment]

If you wanna to know my opinion, I don't advise to use shareaza. 1. the overall sucks 2.I can't say, that there are a lot of music or videos. I don't know, why I should use it: for video, music... :D No, thx

Hmmm... just use a) a hardware firewall b) peerguardian and c) a proxy (like JAP) :goodjob

also
1. don't share 1000's of files
2. throtle your bandwidth
3. don't be on the network all the time
4. every week change your name to something random like: fjskfjs, fjasojfosa,weir9wfme, or even (im gettin really creative) fjisojff8ewj34r89439sf :goodjob

[Mels_Smileys45]

Doesnt Sahreaza Have BT support? If so thats probably why you got targeted.

[mxpwx]

just a little heads up, when using the g2/g1 protocol please be aware that some clients enable people to see your entire ip address, which makes it far easier to trace and catch you doing something "illegal". I think gluz and kceasy are two clients that do that but im not 100 percent sure as for i have not used gnutella in awhile except for the occational paragrenation into Limewire Pro

[Travis982]

"The only way to be 'safe' is to run through innumerable proxies. Of course then you have to remember that all the proxy data may be logged and any organisations that really want to find you could just follow the chain..."

You don't need innumerable ones, just one that is safe. There are a lot of free ones; but they are slower and go off and on intermittantly. Pick one in a country that doesn't give a f**k about the U.S. copyright laws...I have one in Argentina for example (no logging). It costs approx $4 U.S. per month and is well worth it and bandwidth is usually decent. Check out www.proxy4free.com for some more info on free ones.

[mxpwx]

Im all about proxies we used to have a huge proxy list on site before we had to take it down due money issues. I recently got an email from aol concerning kceasy use and it say somethign laong the liens of someones downloaded a syamntec product and symantec would appreciate it if i stopped.

[hawkburn]

You wanna get banned, dont you? You CANT post direct links to warez here.

[black_magiic]

You ignorant fool

[pravdaspain]

ignore and share its a tactic of send letters to all users but really not do nothing

[method]

Get the file that you were apparently sharing... burn it off.. but DON'T delete it from your HD... instead...

Use a hex-editor (or other app) and zero everything after the first 512kb/1MB - whatever...

Now you've got two choices... Either..

1. Claim the download hadn't even got to 1% and you gave up on it.. how the hell could you have been 'sharing' a file that you didn't even have 1% of??

2. Claim that the file wasn't real and that you were testing for hash-weakness exploits in the software they mention (because you hate evil pirates and the damage they do!!) - tell 'em they should have downloaded a few MB and they'd have known it wasn't the real file.

Usually the companies that go after you on p2p networks don't look for much more evidence than seeing your IP listed by a hub/tracker/etc or by your p2p app responding to a search request. - They rarely download any of the file content as evidence as it's supposedly illegal.

[clarencebev]

Highly dissappointed I just got a legal notice from cablevision from the BSA Business Software Alliance that I was sharing illegal software. Can you believe that $hit? I am deleting shareaza completely...

You would think the software could hide your IP info but no its staring me right in the face...
How many files are you talking about?

[crackerjacker]

How many files are you talking about?

haha that person might not answer u see how old the story is?
did u even bother to look at when the thread started.

lmfao
it dont matter how many files he was sharing btw, he was sharing illegal files and he got busted. i mean sharing isnt a crime.

[Omyn]

Whether it is a static adress or not, I would still be able to bust your ass and find out your ISP without even having to do much research.

You see, many ISPs keep huge logs of all internet activity such as, what users are tied to what addresses at certain times, so even if you were to change ip addresses, all I would need was the exact time I found the information and the IP address, from there I could contact your ISP and ask for your user information for legal purposes.

The reason they do this is they like to keep track of who does what, that way when someone does something stupid like hack a government computer and steal the infiltrate the networks, then all they have to do is ask nicely for that users information then you are screwed.

Anything you do on the internet requires your IP address no matter what, it is always sent.

You people who think that "Oh my IP address isnt static, so let me hack some government computers or spread viruses to corporate networks are going to get it straight up the ass in the end.

As I said before IP addresses are tied with the exact login times and user information that can be obtained for your ISP, different ISPs have different ranges of IP addresses they have bought for their customers, simply looking at the first part of the IP address I can find out what ISP you belong to.

Just because your computer isnt "tied" to a face that someone can recognize by first sight, doesnt make you invisible.

Remember kids, anything you do on the internet you are doing in the presence of others, always keep that in mind, you do not have super powers :p

[crackerjacker]

Whether it is a static adress or not, I would still be able to bust your ass and find out your ISP without even having to do much research.

You see, many ISPs keep huge logs of all internet activity such as, what users are tied to what addresses at certain times, so even if you were to change ip addresses, all I would need was the exact time I found the information and the IP address, from there I could contact your ISP and ask for your user information for legal purposes.

The reason they do this is they like to keep track of who does what, that way when someone does something stupid like hack a government computer and steal the infiltrate the networks, then all they have to do is ask nicely for that users information then you are screwed.

Anything you do on the internet requires your IP address no matter what, it is always sent.

You people who think that "Oh my IP address isnt static, so let me hack some government computers or spread viruses to corporate networks are going to get it straight up the ass in the end.

As I said before IP addresses are tied with the exact login times and user information that can be obtained for your ISP, different ISPs have different ranges of IP addresses they have bought for their customers, simply looking at the first part of the IP address I can find out what ISP you belong to.

Just because your computer isnt "tied" to a face that someone can recognize by first sight, doesnt make you invisible.

Remember kids, anything you do on the internet you are doing in the presence of others, always keep that in mind, you do not have super powers :p


you do realize this is an old thread?
second of all of course its easy to trace peoples ip address. even if you use a so called proxy your not safe. *depends on if the proxy is out of the usa jurisdicton and isnt allies with the usa because then the people who runs the proxy out of the usa dont have to give any information to the usa etc*.

but like i said thats good information which i knew but the people that you were telling this to are probably not even here anymore, in essence this thread is like a 5 months old and the person who started the thread aint probably around no more.

[Larry Vagina]

what about using a different port?

[Whistler]

you do realize this is an old thread?

changing ports wouldnt help if they just check to see what your sharing

[method]

Only way to be totally safe using p2p is to use a truly anonymous p2p (which routes packets through other peers to cloak the source of the data). There's always newsgroups, FXP boards, private trading, etc. too.

[crackerjacker]

changing ports wouldnt help if they just check to see what your sharing

thats a known fact. i know that. but he can disable the browse feature in shareaza.
even though this is a very old thread lol.
point is u can share and disable browse features in lots of p2p applications and what not.
people dont get busted for sharing one file, its when the browse feature is on is when people get busted for sharing files.

like i said filesharing isnt a crime its sad that they are suing people.