FREE-Loaders suck LoL!, talk about Free-Loading

[PowerMan57two]

any of you guys freeloaders? I'm on 56k, and I share 296songs, with only 2 uploads allowed since I'm 56k user, but my friend is a free-loader, and I can't stand it, they don't support p2p they just use it for themselves, I give my friend crap about it, but what do you guys think about free-loading?

[PowerMan57two]

I think they should have a rule where you like have to share at least 2-5files within the 1st week of registration, or something.. I duno.. I think thta would be nice.. but then maybe I'm not seeing that down part on it...

[Caitlyn Marble]

freeloaders do suck, especially the kind that put out thier entire collection for everyone to see but then cancel anyone who tries to download.

[crackerjacker]

leeching suks. but no matter what p2p program, u use there are going to be leechers, aka moochers. if your uploading to a leecher, dont cancel the download, first see why they arent sharing, and even if they do leech, let them. maybe they dont understand about sharing, or are not leeching for selfish reasons. sometimes they leech just to see how a program works.
the way i figure, leeching isnt good. you can cancel them. and if they dont get the hint then all well. maybe they are newbies and need help to share there files. or they dont care. they need to realize they are part of a community of filesharing users. one day, they might understand the value of sharing and giving back.
i upload to leechers, because sometimes i am not at my computer. if its a small file or mp3 i dont mind. but if its a big file or something, and i come back to my computer and they are leeching, and i asked why they are not sharing, and i wont get a response from them, then i wait a bit, and figure they arent at there computer. but after awhile i dont receive a response i surely cancel the upload. i mean its good to share, but i like to share with those who share. i am capped on my uploads too, so its not like they have an excuse for not sharing.
share a dam webpage, a gif, a p2p program, anything, make a tutorial on something/.. i am sure some one, anyone or everyone has a talent. so write a poem, anything, but give back to the community its not so hard to share.
and to those leeches, leech on if ya want, but remember that one day, those files wont be available to you anymore, and u will understand the value of sharing.

enuff said, bye bye
rtw*

[Morgwen]

Originally posted by PowerMan57two
, but what do you guys think about free-loading?

:finger

Morgwen

[[KwestSeeker]]

I think it's a matter of educating ppl, of making them understand that kind of "hit 'n' run" attitude will shorten the lifespam of that precious resource for information interchange called p2p.

I do understand that, sometimes, that is caused by mere ignorance, I've gotten replies of ppl telling me : "How do I share my files", I guide them step by step and there pops up about 5 gb of mp3's, text files,some images and a couple of games in their shared folder.

I understand 56k'ers but those lame ass excuses comming from broadband users such : "My ISP limits my UL" - then limit your UL bandwith to something you can control like 64kbs or 32kbs. "UL sl0ws d0\/\/n /\/\y DL's d00d3" - then limit your UL bandwith so that it won't hinder Ul's- "I'm on a T3 but having ppl downloading so fast from gives me goosebumps" - .....

If a 1/4 of the kazaa leachers shared 1/2 of what they got, avaliable sources would skyrocket and make things much easier to get for everybody...

[PatientSaint]

yep leechers suck. It hurts the entire community in a way. btw man everyime i see ur bottom photo all i can think is that song Stan... :cross

[crackerjacker]

hey patient saint, *behold* the birth of a nation.
just kidding, i like your new signature. hmmm
later
rtw* = good luk and peace and take care
hmmmm
just rtw* rtw* rtw*

[PatientSaint]

thanks Crackerjacker :cross

i liked the fast face changing avatar you had lol that was great :)

an i was wondering what rtw meant :)

[crackerjacker]

rtw just means peace out ride those waves. good luk, peace, ride those waves.
or more like rok on.
la la

[WRFan]

in theory I am a freeloader, but in practice I am not. that's because I am too lazy to move the files I downloaded from the share folder to another folder, so that they stay there and everyone can get them. but if I were not so lazy, I would move them, 'cause I don't like spending my bandwidth for uploading. but actually I don't care, if a programme doesn't force me to share. kazaa doesn't enforce sharing, so I have something like 50 mbs in the share folder. but edonkey forces me to share, and I hate being forced to anything, so I cracked the damn thing, set the upload to 0.01. and besides there's no incentive to share to edonkey, you never get anything in return: have been trying to get a file for 4 months now, and still over 60 mbs to go, basically I get 1 mb in 6 hours. on kazaa I get 100 mbs in an hour (average), so what the hell, if I download so much, I don't care that much about uploading

[notbob]

wow...that took a lot of balls to admit--whats your IP so i can ping flood you?

laziness is no excuse jackass--maybe you can't get anything because everyone is on to you and aren't letting your d/l continue

i'm glad shitballs like you can't get into dc--minimum shares are great

[WRFan]

dc requires minimal share of 750 mbs to 5 up gbs - that's why nobody uses your shit*ty dc. and now look at fasttrack - 2 mio users and 2 terra bytes of data, although no sharing is enforced. That's why I like fasttrack and that's why I share a little on fasttrack - because nobody forces me to, and because download speed is so great. But I would never share on networks that force me to share.

[notbob]

then its doing its job--minimum shares keep people like you out thank god

look at the "quality" of crap on fasttrack--no rare stuff, tons of fakes, and lots of people like you--do the math

as for dc being shitty, the music hub i frequent has 3 TB of data, between 75 people, and its all real files, no garbage, no fakes, so go ahead and not share on kazza, it doesn't hurt me one bit

hell i saw one guy with 1.4TB of movies HIMSELF!! i just think that that is encouragement enough to share something decent on dc--to get a crack at collections like that--sharing isn't that hard, its easy--set up a folder, a couple of slots and forget about it--that's all there is to it

[WRFan]

so what, fakes on kazaa, there are fakes on all p2p clients. if you use sites like http://www.fasttrackmovies.com/ then you won't get a fake
and what do you mean, no rare stuff, I got all music and all movies I ever wanted from fasttrack.

do the math yourself - 2 terrabytes of data on fasttrack, isn't that enough? enough for me, at least. If I get everything I want, I don't care whether it's 2 or 10 terra bytes, the only thing I care about is whether the files I need are there, which is the case

[GizzardViolator]

Hey guys & gals, keep in mind that the X terabytes of data quoted doesn't necessarily mean jack shit. Hell, there may be 10TB of Eminem out there, for all you know. Who the fuck wants that shit? Quality, not quantity, is what counts. I find that all p2p networks have both pros and cons.

[gorphon]

direct connect is the bomb. at least if you have a decent connection and a big hard drive. and are patient. and not a twit child. I'll be back on it as soon as I get a bigger hard drive. Which is now about the 6th time Ive mentioned that here...
second..... frelloading. freeloading sucks. and not because of the inherent selfishness of freeloaders... well not just that. searches have a certain TTL right? Which means, they 'die' after a certain, set, period of time. So. Ifyou've got a lot of freeloaders on a network and want to search for something...well.... your chances of finding it decrease rapidly in corrolation to the number of freeloaders on the network. If there are too many people with no files shared the search will sometimes die before it finds what you are looking for. So. Its not that there arent rare files on kazaa necessarily, its that you have to get lucky to find them, largely due to freeloaders; its like looking for a needle in a haystack. Now Im not saying that kazaa's or any other fsp's method of search is efficient and lacking only due to freeloading, just that freeloaders and leechs hurt the network in real terms- they areny just selfish people. So. All you freeloaders reading this- please, share at least 5 to 10 files. If you have more than that, broadband, or are just otherwise cool people you should share more than that.

These are gorphon's feelings! :cross

[GizzardViolator]

OK, Gorphon, I agree with you and just about everyone else....freeloading sucks. But I must note that, when I was limited to a 56K connection, I really couldn't afford the bandwidth to let people upload while I was downloading. Did I let that stop me from sharing? Hell, no. When not downloading myself, like when I was at work, I just let people get what they could from me, albeit one user at a time.

This is what we should encourage others to do....share when your bandwidth is available...don't just log off.

Now that I have cable access, my files are available nearly 24/7. Look for this same username on just about any/all the p2p networks......I'm there.

[JDionic]

And I was born and raised here!
But, having a mother that speaks 5 languages, travelled the world, and brought over the best picks from each country visited - it is inevitable that a person (like me, whose whole life evolves around music) is going to be a 'world-wide' freeloader.

Metallica? Pantera? You won't catch me with their music on my P.C. ... I already bought their CD's ten times - the same ones!
I am looking for the truly eccelectic - music that your average American cannot perceive existing.

[MoonMan]

dc sucks anyway.. 25 gig file sharing requirements, resource hog.. its outrageous.

[notbob]

80GB hdd are like 100bucks now--if you share the minimums on dc (which aren't all that big--everybody overstates the big shares thing, as most hubs only ask for 3GB average) you will fill it in a very short period of time

i'm glad the overstated rumors of big shares keep the leeches away--that's a great thing, because we don't need them anyway--i like being able to download anything i want at any moment i want to and not have to check every file to make sure it is what it says it is

[Ken17625]

"i like being able to download anything i want at any moment i want to"

I have tried DC and I can't say I have been able to do the same. I have connected to hubs and met the minimums. But I can't say this is true for me.

[notbob]

i'll admit, finding the right hub is key, and not easy. once you find that horse though, ride that baby to death!

here's a good one to start--10 meg minimum (you have 4 mp3's right?)

keepup.serveftp.com

250 users, all manner of stuff, 4 TB of files, nice ops that'll leave you alone (but answer questins politely if you need them)

[BiffTannon]

that was what was so cool about audiogalaxy.
it was perfectly automated fro Dls but at the same time dicreetly always allwoed uploads

why can people make more services similar?

i hate all these P2p services that you have to babysit or they cancel Dls. and time out and such.

I have 56k, and disconnect every 2 hours. AG didnt care in the slightest i could leave my pc for days and i would always have the tunes i wanted by the end

Bless the forgotten soul of AG...

[ashep612]

When I was back home on my 56k and I first got Kazaa I thought it was awesome that I could download and not upload... but then I wanted to share my music and I shared every media file I had... and on Kazaa uploading doesn't steal a whole lot of bandwidth, most of the uploads that I had were done within 30 seconds besides if you see someone downloading off of you, they might have the same tastes as you and you could find something REALLY cool... keep your minds and the p2p networks open!
So there is NO excuse for freeloading, if I can share on a 233 MHz Pentium One with a 2 gig HD and a 56k connection, anyone can!!

[TipYourBartender]

I have always shared my files, no matter what. Even when I was on a 33.6 modem. I repeat, I WAS ON A PIECE OF SHIT 33.6 MODEM WITH A PENTIUM I 99MHZ AND I *STILL* SHARED ALL MY MUSIC.

Why?

I can't tell you how many times someone has PMed through Napster, when it ran, or now WinMX, saying, "I was looking all over for that. Thanks!", or asking me for a good song to download. Those types of connections I've made are really what makes the P2P community more than people looking for bits of data, for me, anyway.

Leechers spoil EVERYTHING. They take and take and take, but they never give anything back. More importantly, they sour you on the whole experience. Who wants to put their files out for download when you get no new music in return? This creates a domino effect where people feel they have to stop sharing because no one shares with them.

You know what happens when everyone ends up being leeches, right? Right?

WRFan, you are a grade one asshole, and I don't know how to ping flood, but I hope notbob does it for me.

[dazedandconfused]

:hole

Got one come on today, I don't have as many files as others do, around 2,500 files, but he was 76 in my queue and was msg constantly demanding to be transferred now.

I whois and find he has 3 files on his system and 20! downloads running on a 56k modem!

So I told him to take his turn like everyone else and this jerk was abusive and threatening.

Leechers SUCK.

Why can't we set a limit like someone has "x" number of files on their system before we transfer. Most of the stuff I have up (tho not all) is home ripped and I don't see why people like that should be allowed to leech and then not share.

[freeloaders]

Ya Just haterz lol.... yea http://freeloaders.8m.com

[Havoc]

editttttttt

[TC75580]

Originally posted by WRFan
dc requires minimal share of 750 mbs to 5 up gbs - that's why nobody uses your shit*ty dc. and now look at fasttrack - 2 mio users and 2 terra bytes of data, although no sharing is enforced. That's why I like fasttrack and that's why I share a little on fasttrack - because nobody forces me to, and because download speed is so great. But I would never share on networks that force me to share.
Hahaha... yes they force you, but you are a dumbass. I would share anything to get full albums from people like notbob that share 78GB of music 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
You are selfish, and it's people like you that ruin networks like fasttrack. Fasttrack is ONLY good for popular files like Top 40, nu metal, and popular rap. If you're looking for older stuff or electronica, you will have to go someplace else. Freeloading and leeching does suck... that's why DC is so good sometimes. The only bad thing is when people set the amount too high... but a 3GB limit is good enough.