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lazyarse007
February 15th, 2004, 06:58 AM
I was wondering. if CDs were cheaper would you buy them? Is it ease of lack of funds with which to purchase music that you download it? Is anybody here a student? Generally those who download have the rep for being young but plenty of older (30+) do it too.
Sorry I doing a bit of research on it, I d/l too from WinMX and love it
crackerjacker
February 15th, 2004, 07:05 AM
I suggest you read through out these forums because you will see massive amounts of reasons why people dont buy cds.
One reason is the expense.
But like I said there is many threads on this topic you should feel free to search throught them.
hmm
lazyarse007
February 15th, 2004, 07:42 AM
yeah but if you've seen how many thousands upon thousands of threads there are. If anybody reads this and feels like replying then please do, if not sorry for taking up your time.
crackerjacker
February 15th, 2004, 07:52 AM
yeah well some people will just tell u what i told u as well. they will say to look at the threads but u wanna know something i will feel you in.
the price of cds is one reason. the tactics that the riaa used. the riaa treated their customers like criminals.
the price of cds. is main issue to.
thats from what i see many people say. and personally from me that is the main reasons.
RACKnRAIL
February 15th, 2004, 08:08 AM
It's always been the price for me. $20 for a piece of plastic that can be damaged easily is a huge rip! CD's, as we all know, only cost a fraction of a dollar to manufacture. There it is...all spelled out for ya! I can't speak for everyone, but I think most people feel this way. So why not d/l mp3's from pay sites that are reasonable? The truth is...I will, but only after it becomes mandatory!
que-em
February 15th, 2004, 11:21 AM
Don't be too harsh on CDs. The RIAA would love to get rid of CDs as a distribution source and force you download their DRM from their website. I myself use p2p as a place to discover new music or to download popular music that I will get tired of listening to at some point. If I want to add something to my collection I'll purchase the CD at the cheapest place I can find, rip it to my harddrive and also make a duplicate copy to listen to while I store the original away.
Killawat
February 15th, 2004, 02:28 PM
sure i'll buy cds when more comes on them
Lehk
February 16th, 2004, 04:01 PM
lol i buy CD's even expensive ones... just not from those RIAA B4574RD5, just today i ordered two CD's by Carbon Leaf and one from Sonata Arctica (amazon listed it as a recommendation based on previous purchases, i checked it out on kazaa and decided to order it) If you like metal (operatic or goth... not that 'nu'metal Korn or slipknot... check out artists under the Century Media label www.centurymedia.net
endersgame21
February 16th, 2004, 05:52 PM
Don't be too harsh on CDs. The RIAA would love to get rid of CDs as a distribution source and force you download their DRM from their website. I myself use p2p as a place to discover new music or to download popular music that I will get tired of listening to at some point. If I want to add something to my collection I'll purchase the CD at the cheapest place I can find, rip it to my harddrive and also make a duplicate copy to listen to while I store the original away.
No, quite the contrary...the RIAA hates to let go of CD's. With CD's they can justify charging you 20 bucks for manufacturing costs and shipping costs...the CD's in most cases have to be shelved in stores and that is gonna cost the customer some extra money. Not to mention when you buy a CD you end up getting at least a couple songs you don't want. It would be harder for them to inflate the prices if they were disributing them over the internet. I am sure if (when) the switch from CD's to online distribution is complete, the RIAA will be making less of a profit. Of course I think they shouldn't be making any profit at all...I wish they didn't exsist.
To give you an example...of all the CD's I own (with an average of about 20 tracks per CD) on average I listen to about 5 tracks per CD. So if the majority of the people were like that then each person would only spend 5 bucks each time Eminem or Britney Spears releases a CD versus 20 bucks. Eventually (hopefully) it would get to the point where most artists don't release CD's at all but just a few songs at a time or singles.
But I download because of the inflated prices of CDs and because it is a lot more conveniant to just hit a few buttons, sit back, and listen to your songs immediately...rather then driving out to your local best buy or whatever which takes 20 minutes and isn't that fun for extremely lazy people like me. If I was already in Best Buy or whatever for something else I wouldn't mind picking up a CD or two if they were considerably cheaper.
Miniver
February 16th, 2004, 08:13 PM
Cd's need to be, should be, should have been, and will be cheaper; riaa hound. The belief that we should pay for lower than cd-quality files we may download is foolishness propagated by a system that can't accept change. Why should I pay for something when you broadcast it to me daily of your own free will (through the internet, through television, and through radio) in an ill-fated attempt to get me to buy a piece of plastic and foil for ludicrous prices.
Not to mention that you choose what music I get on my cd.
File-sharing is not going away. It will only get more anonymous as time goes on (Third-generation-gnutelliums) . As bandwidth increases worldwide, file-sharing will follow. imagine if you will a world where your lowest bandwidth is 40mB/sec. An entire library of tens of thousads of songs could be downloaded in no time at all. Your efforts do nothing but slow the inevitable tide, and they don't do that too well either. "Information wants to be free" it needs to be free. it will be free. One thing that as an industry you could do is use the file-sharers as a resource, which you do already in a small way with companies like Big Champagne, to gauge marketability of groups and albums. You could also do what a group of your peers has already suggested PAY file-sharers for sharing your files to those who would pay for them. Do you even realise the incredible amount of bandwidth available to you through these networks. In this war you will lose...don't kid yourselves. Do the math.
MikeHunt
February 16th, 2004, 11:36 PM
if the riaa had 1 cent for every P2P file transacted last year..they would have made several billion dollars. hmmmm
matt merch
February 17th, 2004, 01:59 AM
gotta say cds just dont seem to be cheap enough here in the uk at the weekend i bought donnie darko dvd for £5.99 they had the donnie darko sountrack for £13.99 go figure
The Gauge
February 17th, 2004, 07:00 AM
Lots of people here moaning about the "only 5 decent tracks" on an album. Always amuses me, that one.
I suppose you're the kind of people that leave the theatre after a movie and ask for some of your money back cos there was a boring part of the film that you didn't like? Get over it.
Sure, an album might be split into "tracks" for your convenience, and certainly certain bits are going to be better than others, but it's the album itself that represents a lot of hard work for the artist who made it.
And let's be frank. For every opinion stated that thinks it's rubbish, there's someone else who loves it.
By dividing albums into separate, track-like commodities that you feel should be treated individually, you yourselves are contributing to the degradation of artistic merit that a lot of albums represent.
So, like it or lump it. Take the album AS IT IS or sod off and stop moaning about how you didn't like this bit or that bit.
You wouldn't walk into a supermarket and buy a tin of mixed fruit, then ask for 20p off at the counter cos you don't like cherries now, would you?
FFS.
nasrules
February 17th, 2004, 07:39 AM
If albums were £5 and a large percentage of that went to the artist than currently does, then yes I would buy CDs more often. As it is I do buy quite a few anyway.
Arch Stanton
February 17th, 2004, 09:17 AM
The "5 decent track" theory is defenitely a major argument for distributing tracks individually. I also agree that this is a huge factor in why the record companies refuse to emabrace and accept e-music. They can no longer package 8 tracks-o-crap with 2 decent tracks. Last face it, EVERY musician makes their share of junk along with their hits. If someone likes the more obscure tracks by an artist then their free to d/l them too. But if you want to talk about artistic expression, the music will be what I want to make of it. What good is a track I never listen to anyways? The "artistic portrait" the musician is painting will not be effected anyways, when I never listen to the bunk tracks to begin with.