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indigorose
January 23rd, 2004, 06:48 PM
Im using peer guardian 2.9 and the icon is running in my tool bar yet im not sure if its working. Im running the latest itineration of Direct Connect. Can anyone post a screen cap showing what it should look like.

Also is there any other program, I can use besides this to keep me safe from riaa and mpaa problems.Does this program work well? Lots of questions and few answers so far.

Thanks

notbob
January 23rd, 2004, 06:57 PM
there is no evidence that it works period

but if it makes you feel good, go nuts

indigorose
January 23rd, 2004, 07:18 PM
there is no evidence that it works period

but if it makes you feel good, go nuts



That isnt very comforting. I connect to hubs is that ok and different then programs like Kazaa?


What about an app called ewall from blue something or other networks (I forgot the name)

Ken17625
January 23rd, 2004, 10:08 PM
Well, i've heard some Zeropaid members say that tinfoil hats also protect you from the "industries" hired goons, but i'm pretty sure plastic wrap, or maybe just plain ole garbage bags might suit as well.

Star Guitar
January 23rd, 2004, 11:23 PM
That's almost as bad as the people who "pull out" before they finish their file.

(*_*)

indigorose
January 24th, 2004, 11:33 AM
Well, this morning there was several IP addys that were blocked. So I guess it works somewhat. Im just worried because im at college and one of the girls in the dorms is being sued for music sharing. She was using Kazaa lite. I cant afford to have cable, and I like to be able to download a tv show called smallville. Theres an actor Tom Welling hes so dreamy. anyway thanks guys for all the help.

Oh and notbob, I wasnt trying to be mean, besides I think turtles are cute!

Wolfie
January 24th, 2004, 12:26 PM
First of all welcome to ZP. :)

The problem with PG is its not 100% protection since its based IPs ppl report in after the fact. Also it very easy for media snoops to keep changing thier IPs. There no complete garantee you will be blocking these snoop bots IP and not some filesharing person's IP. Also you might block a bunch but there is always the possibilty of one getting through, that's all you need get on lawsuit list.

Unless of course there has been some new developements for PG that I am not aware of. In that case I'm sure Method will let us know.

indigorose
January 24th, 2004, 01:14 PM
First of all welcome to ZP. :)

The problem with PG is its not 100% protection since its based IPs ppl report in after the fact. Also it very easy for media snoops to keep changing thier IPs. There no complete garantee you will be blocking these snoop bots IP and not some filesharing person's IP. Also you might block a bunch but there is always the possibilty of one getting through, that's all you need get on lawsuit list.

Unless of course there has been some new developements for PG that I am not aware of. In that case I'm sure Method will let us know.


Well, this is troubling. What program do you think is best? What if I just connect to offshore hubs? Im really worried now. I dont share music at all. What are they really going after? Isnt there anyway we can stop these greedy people? Can I use a proxy? Im so confused and its not because im a blonde.


Thankyou for the welcome, I was a little prissy last night when one of the girls in another dorm told me what happened to her friend.

To bad this wasnt the same as being pulled over for a speeding ticket!

Ken17625
January 24th, 2004, 01:18 PM
Well, this morning there was several IP addys that were blocked. So I guess it works somewhat.

Thats not really the sticking point. It's "are those addresses really the "goons"? You gotta believe those hired goons change their IPs constantly.

It's this constant change that makes PG ineffective.

Wolfie
January 24th, 2004, 01:47 PM
Speaking in terms Direct Connect, I mostly hang out in private hubs which provides some level of security.

As for as offshore hubs it really does not make a difference since the hub owner is not generally the target. Its the ppl sharing copyrighted stuff that they are intersted in.

indigorose
January 24th, 2004, 07:32 PM
Speaking in terms Direct Connect, I mostly hang out in private hubs which provides some level of security.

As for as offshore hubs it really does not make a difference since the hub owner is not generally the target. Its the ppl sharing copyrighted stuff that they are intersted in.


I want to be fair and not just snap-up a download then take it outa my share file. If I ever get caught doing this downloading stuff my dads going to have a fit and probably take my credit card away. Since I broke up with my boyfriend last month I cant have that happen.

Do you guys have any other advice

Malicious Intent
January 24th, 2004, 07:46 PM
Download and share all the TV programs you want, no one is suing for that.

indigorose
January 24th, 2004, 08:16 PM
Download and share all the TV programs you want, no one is suing for that.


Well I am guilty of downloading a few new releases. What about the new T. Cruise movie. and what about movies that are already at blockbuster? What if I get sued and I just claim I have no money will that work? It's the truth!

I think the tv shows are great if theres no problems with it, I dont download any music.

There must be some program I can use that works?

Malicious Intent
January 24th, 2004, 08:39 PM
BitTorrent is the best place for new TV and films (www.zeropaid.com/torrent/).
You wont get sued for films either, but the MPAA (film version of the music RIAA) may complain to your ISP. This usally just results in a warning letter, but they will cut your connection for a few days if they are mean. Your college may not be so soft on you if they are the ones who get the letter and can trace it to you.
I havn't managed to get a good copy of the T. Cruise film yet, but i've seen it at the cinema anyway. Well worth the money.

CompuGeek
January 25th, 2004, 02:26 AM
There's no way to be absolutely safe, you just avoid risky behaviors like sharing music on kazaa et cetera.

You won't get sued for downloading TV or movies, but your college can suspend your account so you can't get on the net or use the computer labs.

method
January 25th, 2004, 03:38 AM
If you want to know how we find the ranges, the research into the lists, other ways to keep safe, etc. visit peerguardian.net or bluetack.co.uk.

Theres way too much to be able to answer in one thread here!! - Feel free to try tin foil hats though.

c'ya ;)

Afn
January 25th, 2004, 06:25 AM
Im using peer guardian 2.9 and the icon is running in my tool bar yet im not sure if its working. Im running the latest itineration of Direct Connect. Can anyone post a screen cap showing what it should look like.

Also is there any other program, I can use besides this to keep me safe from riaa and mpaa problems.Does this program work well? Lots of questions and few answers so far.

Thanks

It works, it is not perfect, but better than nothing. It also can filter advertising, a nice effect.

Set it at 100% blocking.

It is like safe sex, safe sex is better than unsafe sex.


Why do we want sex? Becase sex is FUN!

indigorose
February 3rd, 2004, 06:15 PM
It works, it is not perfect, but better than nothing. It also can filter advertising, a nice effect.

Set it at 100% blocking.

It is like safe sex, safe sex is better than unsafe sex.


Why do we want sex? Becase sex is FUN!


Thanks for all the replies. Yes sex is fun just be safe

Krell
February 4th, 2004, 03:19 AM
Compu knows that I just got freaking HAMMERED. One night of SuperNova, and I wished I had some K.Y.

I dusted off the Gaurd lists, and imported the one that Compu had in to the Sygate Personal Firewall. I left DC++ running all day, and tonight, those naughty naughty IPs that I had added BY HAND . . . were not a problem.

nonbob knows that I do not view PG as some kind of condom against RIAA penetration, but if I can block MOST of the bad guys, and sacrifice connecting to SOME places its worth it to me.

Millenium Digital Media my providor is all over my ass this week, along with a few other very interested places.

Lock n Load !

CCSDUDE
February 4th, 2004, 03:27 AM
Compu knows that I just got freaking HAMMERED. One night of SuperNova, and I wished I had some K.Y.

I dusted off the Gaurd lists, and imported the one that Compu had in to the Sygate Personal Firewall. I left DC++ running all day, and tonight, those naughty naughty IPs that I had added BY HAND . . . were not a problem.

nonbob knows that I do not view PG as some kind of condom against RIAA penetration, but if I can block MOST of the bad guys, and sacrifice connecting to SOME places its worth it to me.

Millenium Digital Media my providor is all over my ass this week, along with a few other very interested places.

Lock n Load !
Hmm I've yet to get a letter...been on BT for days on end (even now) and they don't seem to care. They even upped my package deals speed (the pricing changed) and lowerd my bill a few days after one heavy BT sesson.

cjules13
February 4th, 2004, 05:25 AM
Download and share all the TV programs you want, no one is suing for that.

They're not suing, but it's still being watched. My buddy got a letter for sharing Family Guy episodes...

pekkoh
February 17th, 2004, 09:55 AM
I think that DC++ may be marginally safer. With KaZaa you can search from all over the world at one go but with DC++ you have to log into individual forums which have restrictions etc... There are however search engines that connect a lot of forums but these may not work on all forums and not all forums allow them.

One major difference compared to KaZaa is that a lot more people are sharing. I read a while a go a piece titled "DarkNet" something (you can probably find it on the google) written by microsoft, I think, that said that the best strategy to limit file sharing would be to attack those that share a lot and that on KaZaa very small percentage of people are like that (the limiting was deemed hopeless in general though). I for instance visit places that mandate at least 70 Gb shares so everybody is sharing a lot ... ergo more targets to share the risk. Of course I also live in Finland where the authorities do not really care about this thing (some university ISP:s are worried about the traffic though). Even then some people using KaZaa networks in Finland have gotten notices sent to ISP:s. One memorable incident happened to a friend who got a notice from the University about an MPAA (or something) notice. He was asked to stop sharing that particular file (a pre-release) but told to wait until the university net administrator got a change to download it for himself... Well they are a bit more restrictive now because of the traffic issue.

Anyway here's my contribution to an already rather old thread.