What is Zultrax

[broadband412]

Has anyone here heard of zultrax. It's another file sharing app but I don't know what network it connects to. Does anyone know? The web site is http://www.zultrax.com/ I've tried it and it seems to be somewhat popular as I have been able to find quite a bit of files on it. It seems like it supports multisource downloading too as well as resume. Anyways check it out. Is this program new? What network does it run on.

[Vlet]

Looks like carp....

* Fast downloads from multiple sources simultaneously.
* Automatic resume of broken downloads.
* Advanced search options.
* Running 2 networks at the same time, Zepp and Gnutella.
* Full Gnutella/0.6 compliant.
* Zepp swarming technology. Find as many nodes sharing the same file as possible.
* Stealth mode (registrated users only)
* Automated detection and blocking of spoof-nodes.
* Modest use of resources. Your computer will hardly slow down while running Zultrax.

"Stealth mode (registrated users only)" - yeah, OK pfft. explain 'stealth mode' first

[cheapprick]

There is only a limited amount of info out there, but this could be helpful.


INDICATIONS

Reduction of purchasing power and ambition (usually for copyright offenders)
Inappropriate or disruptive deviant behavior in online forums

ADVERSE EFFECTS

Side effects do occur. They are usually not serious and do not occur in all individuals.
Sweating, hot flashes
Impotence
Muscle aches or spasms
Breast swelling
Decrease in body hair
Lethargy, depressed mood
Nervousness, insomnia

RARE side effects
Yellow tinge to the eye, dark urine
Soreness of the mouth, gums or throat
Spyware is found in some machines.
Skin rash or itching, swelling of the face
Nausea, vomiting, loss of appetite, weakness, fever, or flu-like symptoms
Changes in mental or motor ability
Swelling or pain in the legs
Fiddling inside the case with a screwdriver while the machine is on.

precautions

Don't increase or decrease dosage without consulting IT.
Report to IT any changes in sleeping or eating habits, changes in mood or behavior, and any side effects.

[Zultrax_vof]

Has anyone here heard of zultrax. It's another file sharing app but I don't know what network it connects to. Does anyone know? The web site is http://www.zultrax.com/ I've tried it and it seems to be somewhat popular as I have been able to find quite a bit of files on it. It seems like it supports multisource downloading too as well as resume. Anyways check it out. Is this program new? What network does it run on.

Zultrax runs on both Gnutella as on its own network ZEPP. It is not new but since version 3.0 (released in december 2003) totally rebuilt. It definitly supports multisource downloading and resume.

Zultrax tries to hide the technology of file-sharing giving the user only the interface for searching, downloading and sharing. All the rest (nodelists, banned node lists, connections etc) is being delt with automaticly.

One of the features is automaticly detecting and blocking of nodes spreading around spoof files. In the current version 3.4 this is working with limited succes. We are now testing version 3.5 which is expected to be released around 10th of february in which this is drastically improved.

The ZEPP network is a full filesharing network which encrypts the datatraffic and mixes the network-connections with this for downloads and uploads. This network gives a much better privacy-protection.

Zultrax runs adware free. We get our income from users who registrate. On ZEPP bandwidth usage is limited with the rule 'You get as much as you give'. Registration is stimulated to give registrated more than they give. For now that is hardly enough to cover our expenses but we are OK with that.

We think we can make this concept working. That gives a future to adware free P2P. Exactly that is the reason why we are busy with this on the first place. Creating a good P2P and fighting the ever growing bombardment of commercial mass-propaganda at the same time.

ZEPP is still much too small (around 3.000 returning users at this moment) so we run also Gnutella. When ZEPP becomes big enough we let the users choose to run only ZEPP, only Gnutella or both.

All with all Zultrax is not - yet?- that popular as it might seems counting the results. Most search results just come from Gnutella. Zultrax 1 and 2 where not that serious, we grow faster than we thought since the introduction of Zultrax 3.

[John W. Lindh]

Zultrax ... trying ... trying

... mmm ... sucks donkey's dick.

[RACKnRAIL]

It a new p2p app the guy says and it's adware and spyware free, but you have to pay to register...and if you don't register, you don't receive full available bandwidth.

So....in other words....IT SUCKS!

[Malicious Intent]

The ultimate joke: A p2p app you have to pay for.
The whole idea is that we don't pay for software.
It doesn't even do anything that other free (as in free free) software does.
I'm not impressed, but perhaps i'm jumping the gun. I just can't see why yet.

[MikeHunt]

I'm wondering just what registrate is?
succes.. as well?...kinda like sucks less?

[Zultrax_vof]

It a new p2p app the guy says and it's adware and spyware free, but you have to pay to register...and if you don't register, you don't receive full available bandwidth.

So....in other words....IT SUCKS!

For some kind of reason I will give some further explanation. Only a limited bandwidth is avaiable, that bandwidth is distributed fair. One does not get a free ride because at the end every download you put is a upload somewhere else. With Zultrax the basic rule is that when there is too much demand for bandwidth those who contribute most get most. One does not necessarily need to share a lot of files to get a lot, when there is bandwidth available it will also be used for distributing searches and searchresults. Those who are registrated users contribute in the development of the software itself, so they also contribute and get a lot more.

Overall bandwidth is saved because we do not have to put your screen full with popups and banners. We force no one to pay, but one should besides profiting from the benefits of a network also contribute to it!

For every serious P2P you pay, normally by receiving loads of banners and popups. We give you two extra choices: Pay with a little bandwidth or with a little cash. The choice is yours and nothing sucks about that.

One can be blessed with the opinion that all software must be developed totally for free, all costs must be paid for by others besides you and everybody except yourself should share. One can have an attitude of taking a lot and giving as little as possible. In the eyes of that kind of people Zultrax might indeed SUCK a lot.

[Malicious Intent]

For every serious P2P you pay, normally by receiving loads of banners and popups.
That is a lie. I could name at least half a dozen applications that arn't ad/spyware supported.

As for sharing before you upload:
What do new users do to get started? They would have to have a lot sharing to start with and will then have to wait until they can download.
What if someone uploads more than they download? That takes from the people trying to download.
Isn't this easy to hack so that people just report they have uploaded lots?

[RACKnRAIL]

So....in other words....IT SUCKS!

I don't usually quote myself, but in this case, I'll make an exception.

[John W. Lindh]

For every serious P2P you pay
*cough* open *cough* source *cough* clients *cough*:
Bittorrent, eMule, acqlite, LimeWire (if you choose the right installer / or compile it yourself), DC++, Shareaza, mldonkey, gtk-gnutella, gnucleus, azureus, ...

in other words: go .... yourself!

[nasrules]

How can you make your money through users registrating when that isn't a word? :P

[Evil_Dweller_01]

How can you make your money through users registrating when that isn't a word? :P

Nas, as you can see he is from Amsterdam so English might not be their top language...therefore respect what they know :)

As for Zultrax, what do you mean if somebody has ADSL (95% of people) they can only download as fast as they upload? wow if that was the case I think are you going in the wrong direction

[cheapprick]

in other words: go .... yourself!

Uncalled for. He's not demanding we sign up or die, so there isn't a need to get personal.

[nasrules]

Ah, yes, good point Evil. However, he says that this is the way to do ad-free P2P. Well, take a look at Ares, Shareaza, eMule, Mammoth and numerous other apps. Then come back and say that.

[Evil_Dweller_01]

Ah, yes, good point Evil. However, he says that this is the way to do ad-free P2P. Well, take a look at Ares, Shareaza, eMule, Mammoth and numerous other apps. Then come back and say that.

Yea I know...my post was meant at your comment at his spelling error :)

I agree 100% with ya

[rebirth]

I think it sounds like a genital herpes treatment. Yuck!

[Zultrax_vof]

That is a lie. I could name at least half a dozen applications that arn't ad/spyware supported.


You are right. I should not have said it like this. Quite a few applications are not adware supported and amongst them not the least ones.

On the end we just have to finance what we are doing. We are neither capable nor willing to work for free and pay the expenses ourselves. For now we are just working for free.

The people behind other applications might feel simular needs. Each is solving it on its own way.

Some individuals on this forum might write again that this sucks. The alternative might be just stopping or putting adware. We try to do it how we are doing it, we are honest and open about it and in no way insisting people to transfer that registration fee. And even if we would, plenty of alternatives are available.


As for sharing before you upload:
What do new users do to get started? They would have to have a lot sharing to start with and will then have to wait until they can download.
What if someone uploads more than they download? That takes from the people trying to download.


As long as bandwidth is available it will be just used. Only when the demand of bandwidth is larger than the supply the question comes up who gets how much, who has to wait and how long. In that not only uploads and downloads play a role but also the distribution of messages (queries, query responses etc) and the fact if one is registrated or not.

New users can just get started but will not have the highest priority. When three users are downloading from you the one whoe shares a lot gets a higher speed than the one who is just new. The one who does not share at all will get a speed simular to the one who is just new. We do not want to force people to share, but he who shares a lot deserves more credit when he is also trying to get something for himself.

To make sure things go smoodly a few other factors also play a role. Like most apps, Zultrax tries to get his file from several nodes simultaneously. If one downloading from you is also getting it from several others at the same time with a good speed he needs to be served with less bandwidth than the one who is getting the file that he can get only from you.

I don't want to make this story to long. We just implemented rules to share the available bandwidth as fair as possible and to make the protocol as efficient as possible. That is not the same as that one should share before getting something himself.


Isn't this easy to hack so that people just report they have uploaded lots?

No, that will be not easy.

Hacking is of course always possible. We protect againtst that by making it more difficult (encryption, certain checks in the protcol, keeping the protocol secret etc) and by making it less attractive by reducing the possible gain.

[Malicious Intent]

Only when the demand of bandwidth is larger than the supply the question comes up who gets how much, who has to wait and how long.

I don't think this is true. Take this simplified example:
Node1: Sharing Film1
Node2: Sharing Film1, Demanding Film2
Node3: Sharing Film2, Demanding Film1

Node1 and 2 upload film1 to node3, each getting half the credits for the transfer of that film.
Node2 starts to download Film2 from Node3, but because of the credits can only get half of it. Node2 sits and waits for someone else to want one of his files. Surely it makes sense that Node2 can finish the download?
This could then get worse. Say Node1 decides he wants Film2. He downloads half of it and gets stuck.
Now Big1 joins. This node has been collecting credit for the last week. Big1 now only has one seed for Film2, when he could have had three. Also, because Big1 has held a load of credits for a week, other people have been unable to download the film, making Big1 even worse off.
Can you see where I am going?

[reductionist]

I agree with these sentiments - give a little back; what is people's problem with this concept?

[Zultrax_vof]

I don't think this is true. Take this simplified example:
Node1: Sharing Film1
Node2: Sharing Film1, Demanding Film2
Node3: Sharing Film2, Demanding Film1

Node1 and 2 upload film1 to node3, each getting half the credits for the transfer of that film.
Node2 starts to download Film2 from Node3, but because of the credits can only get half of it. Node2 sits and waits for someone else to want one of his files. Surely it makes sense that Node2 can finish the download?
This could then get worse. Say Node1 decides he wants Film2. He downloads half of it and gets stuck.
Now Big1 joins. This node has been collecting credit for the last week. Big1 now only has one seed for Film2, when he could have had three. Also, because Big1 has held a load of credits for a week, other people have been unable to download the film, making Big1 even worse off.
Can you see where I am going?

Node1, Node2, Node3 and Big1 each will get their file although not each with the same speed. The idea that there is something like a counter stopping your downloads when you did not have enough uploads is wrong. When both Node2 and Big1 are getting Film2 from Node3 Node3 decides to give more bandwidth to Big1 - and he deserves that - and less to Node2. Big1 gets prioirity, Node2 drops down.

Even NoShare1 gets the file but with less bandwidth than either Big1 or Node2. If also NoShare2, NoShare3 and NoShare4 demand for the same file, NoShare4 might be told to wait. But will be informed that the file is also already partly available on Big1 and Node2. Here you get something like swarming.

Meanwhile Node3 also informs Big1 that the movie is already partial at Node2. A simular messages goes to Node2. So Big1 will download from both Node2 and Node3.

We could take it one step further. When Big1 and Node2 would not have both started with the beginning of the file they could each from the first moment they hear about each other profit from each other. Node3 could even anticipate on that. Here the schemes get rather complicated and we did not solve this matter yet. Node2's speed drops more than would be strictly necessary.

All will get the file, unless Node3 decides to delete it before one of them finishes it and there is no other source available.

Just leave the idea that there is a counter counting the number of bytes you are alowed to download. Only when bandwidth has to be divided there are rules giving more priority to those who share more. By keeping it that simple we prevent situations like you draw to occur.

[Ken17625]

On the end we just have to finance what we are doing. We are neither capable nor willing to work for free

Then you're in the wrong area. I wouldn't count on P2P as a source of income, especially when your client is running on the Gnutella network (and your other network, with no users, I know, I know, I'll save you from stating that dumbly, in your response).

Bottom line. There are better, free alternatives, which provide a LOT more "serious" P2P than you can ever provide with your no-count network, and Gnutella.

I wont list them, just take a look at Zeropaid's or Slyck's program list. Even the other Gnutella clients have you beat, because a few of them are free (example: Shareaza, Gnucleus, etc..)!

[Malicious Intent]

My apologies, I was thrown by the line
the rule 'You get as much as you give'
Your system sounds like it works on the same basis as the KMD participation level. Random Nut made an excellent illustration of how this is bad for the fasttrack network, but sadly I can't find it. It worked on the principle that as you download the file, your participation falls and so someone jumps infront of you. Again this leads to lots of people with a partial file and not many seeds.
If you do indeed implement sharing of partials, this problem may well be overcome.
Of course you still have the problem of free alternatives.

[zewons]

Come on, give the guys a break

[Evil_Dweller_01]

Malicious, it works more like the emule credit system I believe

The more you upload files the quicker you will download yours :)

That's a good concept

[Zultrax_vof]

Then you're in the wrong area. I wouldn't count on P2P as a source of income, especially when your client is running on the Gnutella network (and your other network, with no users, I know, I know, I'll save you from stating that dumbly, in your response).


Oh, I did not say no users. Lately there was one client coming out of the blue claiming 17 million users. As everyone can count out easily that since we are new and not the most famous client around the number of users of our program must be rather limited. That is no secret, and stating it is not dumbly, just honest. I really see no reason to keep that fact hidden.

[flantanella]

I wouldnt use it
Its loaded with spyware and very slow downloads

[Zultrax_vof]

I wouldnt use it
Its loaded with spyware and very slow downloads

If you really think to have figured out that it contains spyware: You should stop giving advices to the people cause you are not so handy as you think you are. Otherwise you are telling lies.

Zultrax does not contain any spyware.
It will never contain spyware.

[crackerjacker]

this program does not even work.
you should not trust this program.
i tried this several times, it attempts to connect to an ip address but the honest truth it doesnt do much of anything after that. you cant search for anything. you cant download nothing because no search results come through. anyone actually seen any screenshots of this crappy program working?

part of the program uses gnucleus code, because the way zultrax starts out is the same way that gnucleus does. that is not a bad thing, but the several times that i tried to even search using this program it wont work.

next thing this appears rpcss.exe whenever i clicked on zultrax program. now i went and google it, and i read about what this does, but basically rpcss.exe can be used to exploit ones system as well.

anyway i installed this program awhile ago and attempted to try it on several occassions and it would not work. i tried it again and it wont do crap.

so like they say wtf kinda program that doesnt work, but yet is calling up this rpcss.exe for? hmm
this is not legitimate i never even seen actual screenshots for people using this and downloading and uploading and this program should not allow to be spammed here because its not trust worthly.
anyone theres more information i am posting on this rpcss.exe thing.

can u trust something that dont work? no so it must do something else. anyway i tried it it dont work it sucks.
thats bottom line.
i rate it a - 00000000000000000000000

and now more information on rpcss.exe.
hmm
btw i have blocked all outbound traffic from this program zultrax and will not allow outbound access for rpcss.exe either. now time to completely delete the shitty ass program zultrax.
nuff said
the info below
heres why, it will try to use rpcss.exe
http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:pw6edjUe9TMJ:www.cexx.org/rpc.htm+rpcss.exe&hl=en&start=1&ie=UTF-8

[shawners]

Quote:
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Originally Posted by RACKnRAIL
So....in other words....IT SUCKS!
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I don't usually quote myself, but in this case, I'll make an exception

I dont usually quote a quote, but in this case, I'll make an exception

[Zultrax_vof]

part of the program uses gnucleus code, because the way zultrax starts out is the same way that gnucleus does. that is not a bad thing, but the several times that i tried to even search using this program it wont work.


THIS IS NOT TRUE.


next thing this appears rpcss.exe whenever i clicked on zultrax program. now i went and google it, and i read about what this does, but basically rpcss.exe can be used to exploit ones system as well.


THIS IS NOT TRUE. And having a P2P installed on your machine we would not need something like rpcss to exploit ones system as any programmer and many persons with a little common sence in their brains can tell you.

What you are telling is just not true. I have no idea if that is because of your bad intentions or lack of knowledge. Let us asume it is just lack of knowledge.

[matrix2003]

There is nothing wrong with Zultrax (Searching, Downloading), but looking at there website its childish, and the program looks crappy also, there are much better apps out there, Morpheus, BearShare, LimeWire, Shareaza, iMesh and others

[Sparkle1984]

This is one of the cackiest filesharing programs I've ever used. You can't even see the bitrate of the mp3s in the search column, and there is not much detail about the files, it is slow - 21.4megabytes per hour??!!! Most others measure the speed in kbs per second.
You expect people to pay for this piece of junk?!!

[ivand67]

We get our income from users who registrate.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Register, not registrate...

Well, haven't tried it, probably won't use it, but still, I'll check it out, probably install it... And come on, this sounds like a legal drug, not a P2P app!

I'll check it out...

[Phillip .J]

... And come on, this sounds like a legal drug, not a P2P app!
...

Zultrax.....fast relief for pain caused by infirior peer2peer aplications (possibly)!

My 2 pence.

Pros: Rewards uploaders, quick searches, downloaded a file without queing,
Cons: Uses 75% CPU even with 3Ghz, doesnt seem to save settings (I set it to use KB/s and to share ALL files in my shares (e.g. Rar) both went to defualt values after restart),
the interface is uggly and I'd like to see which files I'm uploading,

Im sure some of the cons are due to it being a new program, maybe they will get it right in time?

I think p2p'ers need to be open to new idears and to try each new system. Or we will die.

[crackerjacker]

THIS IS NOT TRUE.



THIS IS NOT TRUE. And having a P2P installed on your machine we would not need something like rpcss to exploit ones system as any programmer and many persons with a little common sence in their brains can tell you.

What you are telling is just not true. I have no idea if that is because of your bad intentions or lack of knowledge. Let us asume it is just lack of knowledge.

Lets assume its not because of lack of knowledge, and lets presume what I said is truthful?
ok
nuff said

[John W. Lindh]

I doubt they are using Gnucleus code, if they were, they would probably have a lot more of Gnucleus' featues.

[Pathtek24]

Anybody still using this program, or has it died? I stumbled upon it today, and came straight here looking for information, but most of the information on here, is from 2004! Any recent updates on this, that someone could humor me with?

[mp3master1215]

i tried it its not a good program, trust me

[Pathtek24]

^I appreciate the reply! Won't even bother then, thanks!

[Illuminist]

Shouldn't the thread just be closed for the program oozing scam?