bearshare opinions

[whtsup02]

i recently switched from shareaza to bearshare and i find bearshare AMAZING super fast downloads and more search results than shareaza and i like the interface better. i would like your opinion on this :gj

p.s. dont tell me u dont like it cuz of adware cuz the adware in the program can be easily removed with adaware or spybot and lets the program still run. I LOVE IT :)

[Sephiroth]

p.s. dont tell me u dont like it cuz of adware cuz the adware in the program can be easily removed with adaware or spybot and lets the program still run.

or just use the betas which has no adware. Hence why there is no "clean bearshare."

[whtsup02]

ahhh i didnt no they didnt have adware but dont they expire in 2 weeks?

[isus]

who cares when they expire as long as a new one is out?

[Matt]

Bearshare is by far one of the most advanced Gnutella applications today. Shareaza is a very good app, I love Shareaza; but unfortunatly Bearshare for download speed is unmatched. Its searches are as fast as KaZaA and its speeds are faster than KaZaA's. I wouldn't use Bearshare, you have to use their bearshare labs version with no ads or spyware. Try it, I'm sure you'll love it. And I'm not a fanboy or anything like that I'm just very impressed with what they've done. -Matt

[RecalcitrantX]

Bearshare is less of a system hog than LimeWire and for that it deserves credit. It appears to have a decent search horizon and can download quickly. But, in the end, it's still Gnutella, so it's really only good for porn or popular mp3s. But if it's popular mp3s you want, you'd be much better off using Clean Blubster or Piolet.

[Matt]

Limewire uses resources because it uses Java. Most Java apps require lots of memory.

[origin]

first all bearshare is a Gnutella client, witch is not a good thing for me at least.Of course it is all a matter of prospective so you will get a wide array of answers but for me I just can't find BS being productive, and lucrative and such. I still got ed2k to back me up I guess I can live without it!

l8

[thongsai]

a question for whtsup , did u connect to g1 when u were using shareaza? I mean i already know that there is other better clients for g1 but u made it sound like there was a tremedous difference.. same network, so go figure

[John W. Lindh]

a question for whtsup , did u connect to g1 when u were using shareaza? I mean i already know that there is other better clients for g1 but u made it sound like there was a tremedous difference.. same network, so go figure

In fact, there really is a tremendous difference, since BearShare nodes and LimeWire nodes are clustering tightly together keeping a very limited number of connections from Morpheus/Shareaza and other clients. That way Shareaza clients often end up in the Morpheus cluster which is performing completely differently from the other two clusters.

[DIMA2001]

BearShare is a good client, but it lacks on partitial file sharing! While Morpheus, Gnucleus, LimeWire have that function, BearShare is the only blocker of the development of the filebase on G1. I will upgrade my CleanBearShare soon.

I still would use it over every other client for music, but shareaza or edonkey hybrid for every other file type.

Currently im uploading the clean version of 4.3.3.2 BS.
You will still experience popups on first start per day - the popup is caused by the search page, the client is compressed/encrypted. The only way we could block it is writing a small python script which accesses that page on startup and places the cookie without opening the browser :) I'll see what is possible.

Although CleanBS shows a popup, it is clean of third party software as weather bug etc.

[John W. Lindh]

But, in the end, it's still Gnutella, so it's really only good for porn or popular mp3s. But if it's popular mp3s you want, you'd be much better off using Clean Blubster or Piolet.
Well then, I propose you download the latest version of each and compare them for yourself. I found MP2P very disappointing, although downloads are certainly as fast as with BearShare (though I prefer LimeWire for a number of reasons). However Piolet and Blubster don't come even close to finding an equal amount of content (the content I was searching for being not quite as popular but still quite common songs) as the leading Gnutella clients. It's really all a matter of what you are looking for, I guess, but I found only Soulseek better (quite a lot better, actually) than Gnutella as far as music is concerned.

[whtsup02]

i dont underatnd why i downloaded the same file on shareaza and then on bearshare and yet the one on shareaza was fake (both from g1) and i would get 300 sources on shareaza but my download speeds would be .05 kbps or even less!!!

[whtsup02]

o and also i used a cracked older versoion of bearshare pro
and it worked but i tried the newest plain old bearshare and it let me remove the adds so i have no worries

[DIMA2001]

ok, ill tell you what i bad about BS:
no partitial file sharing what means slow spreading of big files. That means that on the BS cluster nothing else than dumb cam screeners and mp3s are available.

limited connection number - bearshare connects to several users and forgets other. The connection numbers are too low. It would be ok if bearshare would drop not needed sources as ones with too long queue etc, but no, BS just uses the first-come basis.

Wtf is the Share-button doing on final releases? That is the dumbest button ive ever saw.

Too slow progress.

Everything else is ok.

[Sephiroth]

ok, ill tell you what i bad about BS:
no partitial file sharing what means slow spreading of big files. That means that on the BS cluster nothing else than dumb cam screeners and mp3s are available.


PFS is in the latest beta verison releases.. You have to turn it on in options.

In fact, there really is a tremendous difference, since BearShare nodes and LimeWire nodes are clustering tightly together keeping a very limited number of connections from Morpheus/Shareaza and other clients. That way Shareaza clients often end up in the Morpheus cluster which is performing completely differently from the other two clusters.

Not really. Shareaza has bugs with its Gnutella implementation that havent been fixed which has alot more to do with why it preforms poorly.

[whtsup02]

:fire i c i c i still havnt found nething wrong with it and it does have the option for partial file sharing.... :fire


(how do u make other ppls mesage in quotes) lol im so newbie

[Sephiroth]

you click reply on the bottom right corner of the person's post you want to quote

[ccc1005]

Ok well partial sharing is coming VERY soon with Tiger Tree hashes etc. Also with the new heartbeat system you connect to the network in a matter of SECONDS, and it has some cool stats on total network size, etc.

Also the whole expiration does not matter as there are new betas every FEW days, which is awesome.

So in a few weeks they will be right up there with Shareaza in terms of features, and dont forget the awesome upload logging feature it has.

And WTF is it with all this bias toward Gnutella, have your even tried out Bearshare or other Gnutella progs, the network/programs for it are much better than the POS Kazaa/Kazaa Lite. Gnutella has made great strides in the last few months/years.

[DIMA2001]

hehe, i waited for pfs 2 years :)
that's what i mean under slow.
But doesn't matter - i hope that Mike will fix his G1 support, BS will support PFS soon and the LW-BS cluster interconnects better to the GnucDNA one.

[ccc1005]

Oh come on, Bearshare is the MOST stable program out there, just because they take their time to make a quality, stable product instead of rushing like some others, doesnt mean they are too slow.

[whtsup02]

you click reply on the bottom right corner of the person's post you want to quote

thank you :ass

[RecalcitrantX]

Well then, I propose you download the latest version of each and compare them for yourself. I found MP2P very disappointing, although downloads are certainly as fast as with BearShare (though I prefer LimeWire for a number of reasons). However Piolet and Blubster don't come even close to finding an equal amount of content (the content I was searching for being not quite as popular but still quite common songs) as the leading Gnutella clients. It's really all a matter of what you are looking for, I guess, but I found only Soulseek better (quite a lot better, actually) than Gnutella as far as music is concerned.

My comment was aimed specifically at popular mp3s. ie, top 40 pop & R&B stuff. Downloads from MP2P are insanely fast and usually you never have to wait in any queues. I'd say that MP2P is faster than BS or LimeWire in this regard. But that's just based on my experience. And yes, if it's a variety of mp3s that you desire I'd use SoulSeek as well. I'd also use Overnet to download complete CDs in rar/zip format. You can get them at decent speeds and it saves you the trouble of hunting for individual mp3s and getting matching bitrates. http://www.musicdonkey.net is a good ed2k link site for music, as well as http://www.mpc-donkey.de/

[John W. Lindh]

Not really. Shareaza has bugs with its Gnutella implementation that havent been fixed which has alot more to do with why it preforms poorly.
What bugs do you mean? Are you talking about the inverted QRT patches they are sending? That would only cause a lot of additional traffic for their connected ultrapeers but it wouldn't affect the performance.

[Sephiroth]

That would only cause a lot of additional traffic for their connected ultrapeers but it wouldn't affect the performance.

Yes it does affect performance by creating wasteful overhead that slows down the entire network that does not need to happen and shouldnt be happening.
Anyways that isnt the topic here and looking back and seeing that all your posts here discuss other programs in all them and that isnt what this thread is about so you and the others can keep it on topic or you can all stop being lazy and go create your own gnutella thread. Theres plenty of room for more than one.

[Kevin06906]

I tried Bearshare over my friends house....and it was like last summer..and the one with the spyware...and it went really slow..maybe because it was an old version.

I guess the new versions are a lot faster...but now i don't trust Bearshare.

[whtsup02]

after hearing a few things i am having second thoughts...lol i just cant find a program that its right for me

[ccc1005]

after hearing a few things i am having second thoughts...lol i just cant find a program that its right for me

What seconds thoughts??

This is a good program that is spyware/adware free if you get the betas, with a good feature set, and good content

[whtsup02]

What seconds thoughts??

This is a good program that is spyware/adware free if you get the betas, with a good feature set, and good content

its not the spyware cuz i can get rid of it and i use the betas neway its jus yea idk lol :shy

[MikeHunt]

Clean BearShare 4.3.3.2

www.mitglied.lycos.de/cleanbearshare/index.php

[whtsup02]

Clean BearShare 4.3.3.2

www.mitglied.lycos.de/cleanbearshare/index.php
im scared to download it (fear of virus) ive had to re format my computer 3 times from downloading from sites i dont know about could i have some confirmation from other ppl if it is real or not :goodjob

[ccc1005]

Why use that when u can just get a clean beta with all the newest features?

[crackerjacker]

im scared to download it (fear of virus) ive had to re format my computer 3 times from downloading from sites i dont know about could i have some confirmation from other ppl if it is real or not :goodjob

go and download a free antivirus program.
go to grisoft.com and download avg antivirus program it is free.
install it set up the heurisitics scanner, and then download the clean bearshare if you want to.

once you download the clean bearshare scan it for viruses, and i am sure u will see no virus in this version. *straight up there is no virus*

next thing you do is install it if ya want. point is you need to have a antivirus program anyways, and since i sent u to a site to get it, you can now download this if you want.

i downloaded this just for heck of it, and scanned it for viruses and there are no viruses.

so hmm
later

[whtsup02]

go and download a free antivirus program.
go to grisoft.com and download avg antivirus program it is free.
install it set up the heurisitics scanner, and then download the clean bearshare if you want to.

once you download the clean bearshare scan it for viruses, and i am sure u will see no virus in this version. *straight up there is no virus*

next thing you do is install it if ya want. point is you need to have a antivirus program anyways, and since i sent u to a site to get it, you can now download this if you want.

i downloaded this just for heck of it, and scanned it for viruses and there are no viruses.

so hmm
later
thanks :) virus free :) :fire :tol2

[DIMA2001]

Would you trust Peerweb.org? Since im a peerweb.org releaser (no_dammagE, but here my account is blocked due to bad registration or something similar on ZP's side).
And yes, get a proper AV - I've bought McAfee here and it serves very well. It is not such expensive as you might think and gives you a great AV protection with unknown virus detection etc. NAV2004: :ass - too expensive, too cpu-consuming, too sucky.

If you want, you can create the installer yourself, I can upload the Inno Setup script. - it creates a clean setup on the base of your BearShare installation.
Then, clean your computer and use your own installer.

http://mitglied.lycos.de/cleanbearshare exists a little longer than this thread and has been posted on slyck.
I created CBS because of demand on Slyck - just search for it, you will find CBS there.
... Or get the beta, but you will have to upgrade every two weeks.
I have currently no time creating a proper page, but i will do that as soon as possible.

McAfee also finds no viruses :)~~

[Sephiroth]

By creating a new installer you do mess up the security in the problem because you dont create the security key. Meaning that you will be less secure, and parts of the program might not function correctly.

[DIMA2001]

doh doh, i make an installer based on non-started BS installed into a fresh directory what means that it should run the wizard automatically what means that it will ask you to create the keys yourself.
At least it was tested on 5 machines and all of them started key generation.

[Sephiroth]

Or you could just use the betas. They expire every 2 weeks to prevent bugs in the betas from damaging the network by lazy people who wouldnt update. And has alot more newer features.

[napho]

Bearshare is the best Gnutella client around by quite a margin. Of course since it's Gnutella we're talking about it's hardly amazing but it works well nonetheless.

[Evil_Dweller_01]

Ok see napho...I know you said that it's a good gnutella client but what bugs me is people saying:

Oh it's gnutella...

Even though I don't use gnutella, I still think that if people are going to continue saying how "bad" it is then newbies are not going to try it or people who were looking forward to trying it which means that gnutella will continue to suck because nobody will want to use it

It's simple, gnutella is a good network..just not enough users because everybody scares them away

[Malicious Intent]

Not enough people read these forums for it to have that a big affect Evil_Dweller_01.

[Evil_Dweller_01]

Not enough people read these forums for it to have that a big affect Evil_Dweller_01.


That's very true...but even though you take into effect all the p2p file sharing sites out there, it still wouldn't really matter because that's basically a needle of people when compared to the total number of file sharers

But still, there's the hundreds of guests and such that do visit this site and others and see threads like these :P

[John W. Lindh]

Gnutella has its uses and it also has its weaknesses. It will not replace ed2k/bittorrent in the forseeable future (although I have some feature in mind that will allow gnutella clients to be used in a similar fashion as bittorrent).

[rebirth]

or just use the betas which has no adware. Hence why there is no "clean bearshare."

My Beta had Adware...really

[Sephiroth]

My Beta had Adware...really

You didnt get from the beta's because they dont have adware. If your sig is accurate then your not using a current beta which is probably your problem.

[crackerjacker]

Gnutella has its uses and it also has its weaknesses. It will not replace ed2k/bittorrent in the forseeable future (although I have some feature in mind that will allow gnutella clients to be used in a similar fashion as bittorrent).
That would be interesting to see. * I have some feature in mind that will allow gnutella clients to be used in a similar fashion as bittorrent).[/*

would this be for your own client?

Gnutella works pretty good. I have no problem getting what I want to. I mean no p2p program is perfect. I just think that people use it for what ever suits them.

[John W. Lindh]

It would not be for my own client, it would be for LimeWire and the feature is actually already implemented and working. Unfortunately I still have to convince the LimeWire devs to include it in the official release.

The basic idea was utilizing firewalled hosts in the download mesh, so you don't have to do any more requeries unless you run completely out of sources.

[Dark Messenger]

good read...this..thread...bookmarking..now

[ABC_thellookoflove]

hi does bearshare has g2 implemented ?
i was connected only to g2 in shareaza and got a bearsahre node 4630. it had a blue g2 icon in shareaza. Or just a wrong colour for a forwarded g1 source ?
BTW all IMESH node on G2 are not recognized by shareaza 21.

[riderx]

hi does bearshare has g2 implemented ?
i was connected only to g2 in shareaza and got a bearsahre node 4630. it had a blue g2 icon in shareaza. Or just a wrong colour for a forwarded g1 source ?
BTW all IMESH node on G2 are not recognized by shareaza 21.

shareaza connects to gnutella 1 as well.
that is why u able to connect to bearshare users.

[ballerforever45]

i like this 2 if i new how it works cuz i just lookked at it today so dont say anything.......

[Taulon]

I think bearshare OWnz good quality downloads my opinion one of the fastest gnutella programs
Better than limewire limewire lies that its the fastest even with its ultra fast CRAP BEARSHARE RECOMMENDED LOL