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Christoph
December 23rd, 2003, 12:05 PM
I wanted to test the new Morpheus 4 (beta) client,so in installed it and runned PeerGuardian. after a short time I got this blocked IPs:
Connection Rejected: 128.93.52.5 - INRIA (12-23-2003 @ 20:09:33)
Connection Rejected: 164.62.14.6 - Federal Trade Commission (12-23-2003 @ 20:11:56)


and this is repeating everytime I run Morpheus(sometimes other IPs blocked)

so whats up?


Ü.S: probbaly this bad compenys are running Nodes in fasttrack and gnutella network?

Ken17625
December 23rd, 2003, 12:18 PM
Well, just because you recieve "attention" from certain IPs that are labeled as such, doesn't mean that Morpheus is working with them.

And of course, the labeling of these IPs as stated, could be flawed (as is one of PG's sticking points).

Christoph
December 23rd, 2003, 12:24 PM
"Just because you recieve "attention" from certain IPs that are labeled as such, doesn't mean that Morpheus is working with them."

yes! but I diden't share something AND its always when I start morpheus! No problems with kazaa and piolet.

hawkburn
December 23rd, 2003, 12:26 PM
Those IP's are up-to-date hits, according to ARIN. I wouldn't much worry about the 1st one, as it's located in France and wouldn't be too much of a threat. The FCC - I didn't know they cared, unless you were running a pirated Internet radio station.

Note - Ok just noticed the poster was in France - so he might want to wonder, but not for the UK/US people here.

Christoph
December 23rd, 2003, 12:30 PM
" Ok just noticed the poster was in France - so he might want to wonder"

:(

scenario
December 23rd, 2003, 12:45 PM
much sucess - much rumour

matrix2003
December 23rd, 2003, 12:47 PM
Seeming as Morpheus now has eDonkey support, go have a look on the eMule forums... then come back here and comment chris

Ken17625
December 23rd, 2003, 01:06 PM
yes! but I diden't share something AND its always when I start morpheus!

I wouldn't imagine it would matter if you were sharing something or not.

It could be that the networks Morpheus connects to, are being monitored, or that you are somehow of interest to somebody. I don't know.

The main point is, Morpheus probably has nothing to do with it.

roberto811
December 23rd, 2003, 01:28 PM
Note - Ok just noticed the poster was in France - so he might want to wonder,


hahhahahahhhahahhahahahhahahahhahahahahahh what a loser :finger :fire

Sephiroth
December 23rd, 2003, 01:47 PM
Peerguardian gets alot of mislabelled, too large or pointless ranges. So please do a WHOIS on the addresses first before posting here freaking out.

I dunno what the INRIA is but i dunno why the FTC would be blocked since they are not the enforcement body of p2p.

hawkburn
December 23rd, 2003, 03:02 PM
The INRIA is "INSTITUT NATIONAL DE RECHERCHE EN INFORMATIQUE ET EN AUTOMATIQUE" I dont speak or read french so I dont know what that means, sorry.

maartendc
December 23rd, 2003, 03:48 PM
The INRIA is "INSTITUT NATIONAL DE RECHERCHE EN INFORMATIQUE ET EN AUTOMATIQUE" I dont speak or read french so I dont know what that means, sorry.

It says: National institute for research on Informatics and Automatics.

mojo-ris-in
December 23rd, 2003, 05:12 PM
hahhahahahhhahahhahahahhahahahhahahahahahh what a loser :finger :fire

Nobody likes a smartass. If you don't have anything constructive to say then shut the hell up.

mojo-ris-in
December 23rd, 2003, 05:19 PM
According to their website:
"INRIA aims to network skills and talents from the fields of information and computer science and technology from the entire French research system. This network allows scientific excellence to be used for technological progress, for creating employment and wealth and for new uses in response to socio-economic needs.
INRIA's decentralized organization (6 Research Units), its small autonomous teams, and regular evaluation enable INRIA to develop its partnerships, with 95 research projects shared with universities, grandes Ecoles and research organizations. It is also strengthening its involvement in the development of research results and technology transfer: 400 R & D contracts with industry and 50 technology companies have been born of the Institute."
Source: http://www.inria.fr/inria/enbref.en.html

Sound like an a research organization of some type.

Morpheus Wizard
December 23rd, 2003, 09:23 PM
You need to wait until April 1 to make a statment that Morpheus is working with the RIAA. Just ain't true. They have cost us millions of dollars in legal fees and have vowed not to stop until they put us oput of business. And while some may not care if Morpheus goes out of business, the RIAA will stop at nothing to get a judgement gainst us so they can then just pick off the other P2P developers like dominos using our case as a precedent. That was their plan from day one--unfortunately for them a US Federal Judge threw a monkey wrench into their well-laid out plans by ruling in our favor. Now its round 2 in the Appellete Court in 2004. Hate us or not, you should hope that we prevail.

You probably have read about so called "secret talks" between the RIAA and P2P companies. Well, I can tell you this - Morpheus is NOT taking part in any secret discussions.

RJ5500
December 23rd, 2003, 09:43 PM
I just know Sharman Networks wants to shaft P2P users. All the makers of Kazaa really care about is their ad revenue, not their app.

Officially "doing away" with K-lite is just not pro-P2P.

Christoph
December 24th, 2003, 05:07 AM
ok guys!
who would be interessted in me(monitoring)
I don't share anything on morpheus and I don't have any probs with kazaalite! so wtf is this?

matrix2003
December 24th, 2003, 06:20 AM
mojo-ris-in, so what is constructive, is it saying "YES MORPHEUS IS WORKING WITH THE RIAA" no it isn't, everyone has the right to say what they feel..

The Hunter
December 24th, 2003, 06:27 AM
Not if it involves flaming other members.

Christoph
December 24th, 2003, 07:10 AM
YEA! don't flame me! I only wondering why its always if Im starting morpheus and not while starting kazaa or shareaza!

seraphielx
January 5th, 2004, 02:19 PM
Well, just because you recieve "attention" from certain IPs that are labeled as such, doesn't mean that Morpheus is working with them.

And of course, the labeling of these IPs as stated, could be flawed (as is one of PG's sticking points).


sup peeps figure ill settle this for ya kats

if you run a whois on the ip addressess this is what ya get

128.93.52.5
lachesis.inria.fr

128.93.0.0 - 128.93.255.255

INRIA
Domaine de Voluceau - Rocquencourt
B.P. 105
78153 Le Chesnay
France

DNS Administrator Hostmaster, Luc
+33 1 39 63 53 82
[email protected]

DNS.INRIA.FR
NS2.NIC.FR
IMAG.IMAG.FR
NS.EU.NET

INRIA-NET
Created: 1985-10-01
Updated: 1998-01-23
Source: whois.arin.net
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
164.62.14.6
reddog.ftc.gov

164.62.0.0 - 164.62.255.255

Federal Trade Commission
600 Pennsylvania Ave. NW
Washington
DC
20580
United States

Frank, M.
+1-202-326-2217
[email protected]

ALSATIAN.FTC.GOV
AUTH03.NS.UU.NET
AUTH50.NS.UU.NET
DOBERMAN.FTC.GOV

FTCNET
Created: 1992-12-09
Updated: 1999-12-23
Source: whois.arin.net
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

im the one that is doing the most work on the perguardian ip database right now and i have been working the last few weeks to remove all the "boggie man" names from the ranges so they are all pretty much names as to what they are

seraphielx
January 5th, 2004, 02:21 PM
so why not someone ask them why they are getting connections to these other than flaming each other about the ip ranges.......

do they have a forum of there own?

nickpdx
January 9th, 2004, 01:11 PM
so why not someone ask them why they are getting connections to these other than flaming each other about the ip ranges.......

do they have a forum of there own?
i also got those connections in addition to BayTSP when i started up morpheus - i wasnt even sharing anything since i hadnt added my shared folders to it.... :mellow