Support for Sephiroth

[Induna]

I think it's about time somebody showed a little support for Seph.

I have been physically sickened at the way Sephiroth has been hounded of late. There's been a concerted effort to undermind his authority and put pressure on him to step down as Moderator. You should feel proud that somebody wants to devote time and energy to Zeropaid the way he does, not condemn the man. All you crybabies - yes you Psaliax - yes you nobrot - yes you aglo. You should feel ashamed of yourselves, you pack of ruthless hyenas. Let the man live.


Everybody, don't be fooled that these trolls speak for the good of the forum, like they were on some sort of noble crusade. They have their own adgenda, they simply don't like Seph. It's not a question of him being demoted, they want him to leave, tarred and feathered if they could, simply because they don't like him. But Sephiroth isn't here to win any popularity contests, he knows that, he simply wants to do his job, the job he never gets any credit for.

Ask yourself, how long as Sephiroth been here? Three years. People come and go but Sephiroth still remains. Solid as a rock. Ardent. He's not going anywhere.

So it's time that we show some support for Sephiroth. C'mon people, don't let the trolls win.

[DudeAsInCool]

I've praised Seph in an earlier thread for working to improve the site. It's a tough but smart crowd here-and ultimately, the give and take will be good for the site, and Seph can take credit for his diligence and focus to improve it.

[BlueLieu]

I also like Seph. He points out the manipulative & dishonest way some people bait and then cry foul.

His crusade has been (as far as I can tell) to return the purpose of this site to P2P related discussion. Making life difficult for those who want to troll is a thankless, frustrating and necessary job.

I am afraid that like myself, Seph gets baited into an emotional response and then crucified for it (read: bait and cry foul).

My feeling about that is, Seph would not get worked up if he didn't care. And personally I want Mods who care!

[Evil_Dweller_01]

Hey, you have to understand that nobody is perfect

Some people hate Seph and have their reasons, some people admire him

It's their opinions...and you shouldn't force them to change just because you oppose what they say

This is the internet who cares, although I do respect that he puts a lot of effort into the site :)

[Malicious Intent]

It seems to me that Sephiroth is perfectly capable of defending himself.
You totally have my support Sephiroth, however many arguments we have. The internet sometimes makes speaking your mind a bit too easy, which can appear offensive. It's only my opinion on the matter.

[aqlo]

Oh the irony, oh I'm dyin here
:tilted

Anyway Sephiroth and the other moderators don't get paid so far as I know. So what this means is that he took it on himself to incite a clear opinion from every bored distracted member in here on upcoming forum changes that we had ignored, took all the heat on himself, capitulated completely to every part of the real will of the population that was the least bit clear, and then practiced turning the other cheek for 9 pages or so and still is. So again, thanks Sephiroth
:gj

Induna how come you don't seem to have read any post of mine on these topics except the one with the full documentation in it that I punctuated with a baseless claim to make sure it got read? And as for that one, you jumped to agree when I originally posted it.
:ass

Waaaaaaaa, moderators please ban Induna, he's slandering me !!!
:bling

[rainbowdemon]

I never had a problem with the man. Seph is allright as far as I'm concerned.

[shawners]

THREAD closed.

[origin]

People are entitled to there own prospectives on subjects although I do not agree with him on certain things, I show him respect for what he has brung to the table his own prospective on the same subject, justas he has for me. Treat others like you would like to be treated. Mis interpretation/arguments about certain subjects can be solved in a civil manner that pleases everyone by just tlking things out. Wouldnt the world be better off with that type of mentalility? :santa

l8

[isus]

THREAD closed.
ooook.

i don't understand how that shows your views or concerns.

[Sephiroth]

Thanks. Hopefully it will be over soon sine the plan has been finished i dunno when the changes will happen or not as of yet.

As I already posted the ideas of the messages forum, to not display or count post counts, and the recent posts on the front page ideas have all been taken off. The good user comments carried more weight because they were complete thought out opinions which made good points about the topic and not about other things and weren't flames which didnt drown out the other opinions.

So the only things left in the forum plan are just changes to the forum layout, and some new descriptions which ill post a copy of that below minus the mod sections.

*Subforums are indented.

Descriptions are in parentheses.

File Sharing
-Announcements/FAQ(Get the latest news on the forums and site development and new user guide.)
-General P2P Discussion(Discuss anything and everything about P2P)
-New Program/Network(keep current description)
-P2Politics/P2PUnited(Current issues facing P2P)
-Zeropaid News(Post and discuss any news here)
-Digital News(For Technology, Computer, and Internet related news)
-P2Problems(Have a problem with a P2P Program? Ask it here)
-Developers Corner(Building Tommrow's P2P Applications today. Serious discussion only please.)
P2P Forums
-Bittorrent(add the information/news description as with the other programs)
-Direct Connect
-Edonkey/Emule(remove information/news description. Add following: For discussion of any program on the Edonkey Network)
-Fast-Track(Discussion of any program that is on the Fasttrack Network. e.g. Kazaa/Kazaa Lite/Grokster/Imesh)
-Freenet
-Gnutella(Discuss about any topic or program on the Gnutella Network. e.g. Bearshare/Gnucleus/Limewire/Morpheus/Gtk-Gnutella/XoloX)
-MP2P(Discussion of any program on the Manolito(MP2P) network. e.g. Blubster/Piolet)
-Shareaza
-WinMX
-Waste (add the information/news description as with the other programs)

General Discussion
-Feedback(keep current description)
-Lounge(General Discussion forum for any non p2p topic.)

-Music, Movies & Games(Discussion of the latest music, movie or game title. No file requests or warez allowed.)
-General PC Discussion(For any computer related thread about any operating system, hardware, security or general discussion about computers.)

-Linux/Mac(For discussion of the Linux or Mac and any other non windows system)
-Security/Privacy(Post about the latest security/privacy threats and how to protect your PC)
-Audio & Video(For the techincal discussions about AV)

[Kevin06906]

I support Seph.

Seph is one of the high bosses around here...show him respect and he'll show you respect.

Just because Seph is a super moderator doesn't mean that he can't defend himself against people's opinions about him. If someone has a wrong fact about a mod then the mod or anybody has the right to defend themselves and tell them why they are wrong about that so called "fact".

It seems to me as if when people diss mods...they think that mods can't defend themselves because it will ruin their reputation as a moderator because it's "bad influence" which is totally BS.

Mods have the same right as the members. Sure Mods have more power over the members by closing threads, banning etc....but if someone hired them...then the person that hired them knows that he/she can do the job and handle issues well.

[wingnut2600]

It's not a question of him being demoted, they want him to leave, tarred and feathered if they could, simply because they don't like him.

Tarred--No,
Feathered--perhaps,
Don't like him--no (this means that I do not not like him, not the transverse),
demoted--who else would do what he does???

I like Sephiroth... if he didn't cause such a strong reaction for the posters here, I don't know if I would be here and I doubt that we would have such a strong forum membership. He polarizes the posters (often selflessly against himself) and destroys the struggles between posters since they are on a united front.

I have chatted with him and he seems like a nice enough human being.

[kiwibank]

zeropaid is a great site and open forum full of smart,opinionated, passionate individuals. and what could be wrong with that ,after all isn`t that what life is about? a couple of hours every morning reading and posting on the zeropaid forums toughens me up and gets me ready to face the daily bullshit that we all have to go thru. the standard of moderating and posting seems very high on zp when compared to other similar sites and forums.

[ASUmusicMAN]

I have gotten great advice by reading Seph's posts. He is definitely an honest and badass individual...keep it up!

[method]

Kinda like malicious.. I've not always seen eye to eye with seph (our opinions have differed on a few things) but at least he's always argued his points based on facts and I've never seen him throw a tantrum or act irresponsibly... and to me, that's a good mod.

[method77]

Psaliax - nobrot - aglo

hahahahahaha


I have chatted with him and he seems like a nice enough human being. he is helpful in a lot of cases but as a mod?.... hmmm too much

[Psilaxs]

I think it's about time somebody showed a little support for Seph.

I have been physically sickened at the way Sephiroth has been hounded of late. There's been a concerted effort to undermind his authority and put pressure on him to step down as Moderator. You should feel proud that somebody wants to devote time and energy to Zeropaid the way he does, not condemn the man. All you crybabies - yes you Psaliax - yes you nobrot - yes you aglo. You should feel ashamed of yourselves, you pack of ruthless hyenas. Let the man live.


Everybody, don't be fooled that these trolls speak for the good of the forum, like they were on some sort of noble crusade. They have their own adgenda, they simply don't like Seph. It's not a question of him being demoted, they want him to leave, tarred and feathered if they could, simply because they don't like him. But Sephiroth isn't here to win any popularity contests, he knows that, he simply wants to do his job, the job he never gets any credit for.

Ask yourself, how long as Sephiroth been here? Three years. People come and go but Sephiroth still remains. Solid as a rock. Ardent. He's not going anywhere.

So it's time that we show some support for Sephiroth. C'mon people, don't let the trolls win.

Call me what you want, but i do not give a shit , I have something else far more important. It is called a LIFE. ZP is one of my entertainment outlets. Do you really believe for one second that Seph REALLY cares what I think? Do you think I really care what YOU think of me? NO. This is an internet bbs. Over the top, over-dramatized, mental masterbation bullshit. And I am as guilty of that as anyone. But I know it only goes so far (as in it really does not matter)

Besides, Seph would not have it any other way: being the whipping boy of the community :;) :gj

[Darth Bond]

Psilaxs quit being an ass.......and quit badgering the man

[Foreverboard]

seph can take care of himself. some of us have been here for a while and seen the site change up and down. 80% of you have NO CLUE what happends behind the scenes, including myself, but I have seen\read a few things has changed my outlook on a few people here. And like Psilaxs said, this is a bbs come on, some of you take some of this way to far...........

[CTC Command]

Thanks. Hopefully it will be over soon sine the plan has been finished i dunno when the changes will happen or not as of yet.

As I already posted the ideas of the messages forum, to not display or count post counts, and the recent posts on the front page ideas have all been taken off. The good user comments carried more weight because they were complete thought out opinions which made good points about the topic and not about other things and weren't flames which didnt drown out the other opinions.

So the only things left in the forum plan are just changes to the forum layout, and some new descriptions which ill post a copy of that below minus the mod sections.

*Subforums are indented.

Descriptions are in parentheses.

File Sharing
-Announcements/FAQ(Get the latest news on the forums and site development and new user guide.)
-General P2P Discussion(Discuss anything and everything about P2P)
-New Program/Network(keep current description)
-P2Politics/P2PUnited(Current issues facing P2P)
-Zeropaid News(Post and discuss any news here)
-Digital News(For Technology, Computer, and Internet related news)
-P2Problems(Have a problem with a P2P Program? Ask it here)
-Developers Corner(Building Tommrow's P2P Applications today. Serious discussion only please.)
P2P Forums
-Bittorrent(add the information/news description as with the other programs)
-Direct Connect
-Edonkey/Emule(remove information/news description. Add following: For discussion of any program on the Edonkey Network)
-Fast-Track(Discussion of any program that is on the Fasttrack Network. e.g. Kazaa/Kazaa Lite/Grokster/Imesh)
-Freenet
-Gnutella(Discuss about any topic or program on the Gnutella Network. e.g. Bearshare/Gnucleus/Limewire/Morpheus/Gtk-Gnutella/XoloX)
-MP2P(Discussion of any program on the Manolito(MP2P) network. e.g. Blubster/Piolet)
-Shareaza
-WinMX
-Waste (add the information/news description as with the other programs)

General Discussion
-Feedback(keep current description)
-Lounge(General Discussion forum for any non p2p topic.)

-Music, Movies & Games(Discussion of the latest music, movie or game title. No file requests or warez allowed.)
-General PC Discussion(For any computer related thread about any operating system, hardware, security or general discussion about computers.)

-Linux/Mac(For discussion of the Linux or Mac and any other non windows system)
-Security/Privacy(Post about the latest security/privacy threats and how to protect your PC)
-Audio & Video(For the techincal discussions about AV)


I will toss my 2 cents here--despite the recent disagreements Seph and I have had the last couple of days, most of the time we have actually been on the same page, at least as far as his basic plan as outlined above goes. As far as politics, that's a different story but that really doesn't matter (see "bottom line," at the bottom). I have always thought (and said several times) that his (see above) restructuring plans for the Forums was an excellent idea. Nor have I ever been in favor of a "flame zone" for ZP; this I have also said every time it has been brought up. The stuff everyone didn't want to happen isn't going to happen; posts counts are staying, the lounge is still on the front page, and the forums will be much easier to navigate. My hat's off to someone who can develop a forum restructure, participate in six different arguments, and conduct whatever offline demands his life must have. *doffs imaginary cap in Sephiroth's general direction, to the south* I also think that in most instances, his vigilance in stopping flames and trolls has been outstanding; while most of the mods here are all pretty quick to put a stop to stupidity, Sephiroth is around here when alot of the others are necessarily off.

Can he take constructive criticism? No, but then again few of us do. I actually enjoy debating with him, because it's good practice to engage someone so masterful at the circular argument...

Bottom line though, does any of this matter? In a hundred years, will any of this be of any relevance?

Fire, FIRE!!

Don't anyone lose any sleep over any of this. I know I won't.

[scenario]

WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS STRUCTURE FOR THE FORUM

GENERAL DISKUSSION
-General P2P Discussion(Discuss anything and everything about P2P)
-P2Politics/P2PUnited(Current issues facing P2P)
-P2Problems(Have a problem with a P2P Program? Ask it here)


NEWS FORUM
-New Program/Network(keep current description)
-Zeropaid News(Post and discuss any news here)
-Digital News(For Technology, Computer, and Internet related news)
-Developers Corner(Building Tommrow's P2P Applications today. Serious discussion only please.)


P2P-SECURE Forums (3. Generation)
-Waste (add the information/news description as with the other programs)
-Freenet
-Security/Privacy(Post about the latest security/privacy threats and how to protect your PC)


P2P-HYBRID(DOUBLEPROTOCOL)-FORUM
-Shareaza
-MLDONKEY
-GNUCLEUS


P2P-SinGLE-PROTOCOL-FORUM
-Edonkey/Emule(remove information/news description. Add following: For discussion of any program on the Edonkey Network)
-Fast-Track(Discussion of any program that is on the Fasttrack Network. e.g. Kazaa/Kazaa Lite/Grokster/Imesh)
-Gnutella(Discuss about any topic or program on the Gnutella Network. e.g. Bearshare/Gnucleus/Limewire/Morpheus/Gtk-Gnutella/XoloX)
-WINMX
-MP2P(Discussion of any program on the Manolito(MP2P) network. e.g. Blubster/Piolet)


P2P-SERVERBASED-FORUM
-Bittorrent(add the information/news description as with the other programs)
-Direct Connect


FILE SAHRING LOUNGE
-Announcements/FAQ(Get the latest news on the forums and site development and new user guide.)
-Feedback(keep current description)
-Lounge(General Discussion forum for any non p2p topic.)
-Music, Movies & Games(Discussion of the latest music, movie or game title. No file requests or warez allowed.)
-General PC Discussion(For any computer related thread about any operating system, hardware, security or general discussion about computers.)
-Linux/Mac(For discussion of the Linux or Mac and any other non windows system)
-Audio & Video(For the techincal discussions about AV)

[nasrules]

I've had fallouts with numerous during my time here, Sephiroth and Krell among them. However, at the end of the day the mods work really hard. Leave them be.

[zaphodiv]

>I have been physically sickened at the way Sephiroth has been hounded of late.

Don't read the lounge and you won't notice a thing.

[Feather]

One of the reasons i have not posted of late is because of the unrulely jerks pushing the limit and whining when thje mods do thier job. My opinion, I think they should take the leash of the mods and let them ban all the trouble makers here. Then maybe it would get back to what it was when i came here.

[Induna]

I agree. I'm pleased to see that there are some sensible people here that are able to express their views in a mature and adult way. And not resort to infantile tactics like throwing tantrums and go off in a huff if somebody disagrees with them.

And if people are using Seph as a weak excuse to stay away and not participate here at ZP , as notbob (not nobrot, sorry my mistake) intimated, then they need to stop acting like children and grow up.

[grab_grab_the_haddock]

I agree. I'm pleased to see that there are some sensible people here that are able to express their views in a mature and adult way.


Do you mean mature and adult views expressed like those below?


obviously you would have a small, flacid weener.
Whereas I would enjoy King-dong status.


I recently lost a testicle due to a horrific dog attack. The owner put the dog down but that wasn't much satisfation for me.


Good fucking analogy, the DC Zealots can suck my large cock.



don't feel afraid of the mods Janet. Most of them only blow hot air.
The rest? Well I don't know what they blow.

Shut the fuck up Vikram you boring twat. Three unimaginative posts by you that an untrained monkey could type.


If it was anyone else i would say you were trying to stir up shit. But we all know you better than that ;-)

[Kooperman]

Do you mean mature and adult views expressed like those below?
If it was anyone else i would say you were trying to stir up shit. But we all know you better than that ;-)

LOL...Well, Induna DID say mature and adult, perhaps like movie ratings.....if he had said tasteful and sensitive it would have been more hypocritical.

[Induna]

Oh my, I'm having hot flushes, did I really say those things? I honestly can't remember.

But dredging through my previous posts like that must have been a little time consuming. Which reminds me, what was that you said in the thread below?...


some people obviously have way too much time on their hands.


*does a CJ cough*

[grab_grab_the_haddock]

well when it comes to a saturday night, and the choice for entertainment is watching man U romp the premiership or jacking off for the nth time to briana banks taking it in all holes, studying induna posts for rude remarks becomes a pleasurable diversion.

and now im off to stick needles in my eyes then drown myself in the sink.

[method77]

watching man U romp the premiershiptrust me dude, not many americans would understand that....

[CTC Command]

Oh my, I'm having hot flushes, did I really say those things? I honestly can't remember.

But dredging through my previous posts like that must have been a little time consuming.

Given your penchant for juvenile commentary, it probably took grab_grab all of about 30 seconds to snag those comments from the first page of your recent posts...all he had to do was edit out the posts where your lips are firmly planted on some mod's ass.

But I digest, oh king of warm water toilets.


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trust me dude, not many americans would understand that....

Yer bloody right! Whaddya blokes pissing about? Us yanks n'ver 'erd ouit.