View Full Version : why Shareaza?
sebfernando
December 4th, 2003, 08:33 AM
I dont see why Shareaza is so popular? its network (primay gunetala 1 and 2) has a very lowe user count (dec 3rd - 191,386), when smaller progs like overnet have the 4th highest user count (dec 3rd - 630,784), and is not a popular prog. i just dont see why everyone loves shareaza.
notbob
December 4th, 2003, 08:49 AM
I dont see why Shareaza is so popular? its network (primay gunetala 1 and 2) has a very lowe user count (dec 3rd - 191,386), when smaller progs like overnet have the 4th highest user count (dec 3rd - 630,784), and is not a popular prog. i just dont see why everyone loves shareaza.
everyone doesn't love shareaza--on this site, it's about 15 users that preach the book of shareaza
some people think that a system that connects to lots of different systems is better than one that is just really good that stands by itself
i don't
i tried shareaza, and got a few files, but then i also had the other 90% of the stuff i wanted time out or never start
the real story isn't in the numbers though, it's in the files--dc supposedly has less than 200000 users, but if you want something and know what you are doing, you can usually get it pretty fast. kazaa on the other hand has supposedly 4 million users, but unless you are searching for porn, you will go through a lot of trouble to get the files you want
method77
December 4th, 2003, 08:51 AM
no real filesharer likes shareazza so who cares
DainBramaged
December 4th, 2003, 09:48 AM
While I admit it would be nice if everyone was pleased with one universal network, as long as people share, who really cares, eh?
Shareaza is making files more available, however.
method77
December 4th, 2003, 10:04 AM
i personally have nothing against shareaza, i just don't use it. As long as it's free (spyware free also) it's fine by me.
origin
December 4th, 2003, 12:09 PM
It does get extra praise it seems. The program itself has massive potential being that it has the capabilities to connect to so many networks. As of now I see it as a small player in the p2p world, but in the future I would watch out for it(could be the next best thing!).
l8
RACKnRAIL
December 4th, 2003, 12:29 PM
Tried it...hated it!
jimmy90
December 4th, 2003, 12:43 PM
May I refer you to a previous post:
http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showthread.php?p=188046#post188046
cpugeniusmv
December 4th, 2003, 04:34 PM
no real filesharer likes shareazza so who cares
i like it :)
although it's not my primary source of files, it's good for a backup when i can't find certain files on my primary routes
:)
babarfloyd
December 4th, 2003, 04:39 PM
no real filesharer likes shareazza so who cares
I'm a real filesharer (I'm not a cartoon, and I've been using P2P apps almost daily since Napster) and Shareaza is the best one I've used yet.
I like it because it finds the files I'm looking for and the download success rate is better than anything else I've used. It doesn't contain adware or spyware, and it's free.
It doesn't get much better than that. :tilted
tvaddict817
December 4th, 2003, 06:36 PM
I personally like Shareaza because you can download from multiple networks at once. You can start downloading a file on edonkey or bittorrent and if the download runs out of sources, you can add sources from g2 and some g1 clients. There is nothing more annoying than having 99% of a torrent and running out of sources. It is the best client I've ever used.
isus
December 4th, 2003, 07:00 PM
shareaza is nice and all, but i don't use it.
i've been a winmx user since 2.6, and it's never failed for me. queues have never been an issue, sometimes the speed is low, but considering how isp's slant the bandwidth (i can get 380kB/s in, but only 30kB/s out... i would need 12 people with no slots used to get even close to near my max... good luck with that on some rare files).
the only other issue is the ui, and the severe retardation of the update cycle... "we'll be beta testing in october." guess what winmx developers? it's december.
stealthspy
December 4th, 2003, 07:31 PM
Ha. I wanted to see something like this badly.
Connects to Gnutella2. Gnutella2 is fantastic for music and ok for everything else. It's really actually pretty advanced, and is open and decentral. Many agree that it is the best p2p network around, minus user count
Connects to Gnutella. Failing network. It's a good complement for Gnutella2 in terms of music. Shareaza can download most songs in twenty seconds on my connection from Gnutella and Gnutella2 sources. Enough said.
Connects to eDonkey2000. eDonkey is a horribly inefficient network, but still works for larger files. It has over a million users. That is it's high. The newest version fixes some eDonkey bugs, by the way.
BitTorrent support. A great way to get large files fast. Growing by the day.
Excellent interface. Whips the ass of almost all p2p applications in terms of GUI and controls. Hands Down.
Security Features, Advanced Settings, Library (Universal Hashing), Ghost Fake File Ratings, Ratings period, advanced metadata, nice home tab, good host cache/discovery services access for advanced users, windowed, basic and power modes for ultimate control, multi window searching (with a side window), download groups, user defined queues, graphing engine, packet dump for troubleshooting, search/hit windows for content too look for, skins, plugins and chat are just some of the features offered by Shareaza.
Constantly updated, spyware free and run by an excellent group of people.
Enough?
Evil_Dweller_01
December 4th, 2003, 08:04 PM
Ha. I wanted to see something like this badly.
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Connects to Gnutella2. Gnutella2 is fantastic for music and ok for everything else. It's really actually pretty advanced, and is open and decentral. Many agree that it is the best p2p network around, minus user count
Eheh...maybe that is your opinion
I myself feel that Gnutella2 is a great network also (searches are fast) but the thing is that it CANNOT handle large files..(above 100mb)
Like you said, its good for music...almost NOTHING else
What other program has 300-500 sources for a file and either stays at active or you get a download speed of .54KB/s? That's basically how shareaza works...tons of sources and shitty download speeds (for large files)
Basically its garbage for that matter...
As for music..ya its pretty darn good :P
LordNIkon
December 4th, 2003, 10:07 PM
I like shareaza. I don't have too many problems with it. Yes I hate waiting a long time for completed files, but it is worth it.
johoja
December 5th, 2003, 02:59 AM
Eheh...maybe that is your opinion
What other program has 300-500 sources for a file and either stays at active or you get a download speed of .54KB/s? That's basically how shareaza works...tons of sources and shitty download speeds (for large files)
Basically its garbage for that matter...
As for music..ya its pretty darn good :P
I doubt all those sources were G2, so you can't blame it on the network. So making the assumption it sucks for large files is wrong. Im suprised you wont relate speed to a "network". Any experienced user should know that speeds are directly related to speeds of other users. In my opinion using Shareaza with only G2 works best, its turning into quite a resourcefull network. I've done comparisons with Ares/Bearshare and the content for larger files is signifigantly larger on G2 especially newer releases ie) tv shows. It's probably becuase people use bittornet/ed2k in Raza and the filse are then shared on G2 after the download is finishied. Evil_Dweller how long did you run Shareaza for until you closed it, be honest.
Maybe Shareaza just appeals to a select group? But, I'd hope all you anti-Shareaza boys wil give it a second chance once it reaches final. It's really trying to meet everyones needs.
nasrules
December 5th, 2003, 04:09 AM
I like it - I like the combination of reliable G2, ED2K and BitTorrent clients in one application.
Evil_Dweller_01
December 5th, 2003, 01:21 PM
I doubt all those sources were G2, so you can't blame it on the network. So making the assumption it sucks for large files is wrong. Im suprised you wont relate speed to a "network". Any experienced user should know that speeds are directly related to speeds of other users. In my opinion using Shareaza with only G2 works best, its turning into quite a resourcefull network. I've done comparisons with Ares/Bearshare and the content for larger files is signifigantly larger on G2 especially newer releases ie) tv shows. It's probably becuase people use bittornet/ed2k in Raza and the filse are then shared on G2 after the download is finishied. Evil_Dweller how long did you run Shareaza for until you closed it, be honest.
Maybe Shareaza just appeals to a select group? But, I'd hope all you anti-Shareaza boys wil give it a second chance once it reaches final. It's really trying to meet everyones needs.
Wow dude...
Just because you get the "priveladge" to release the new shareaza version on the shareaza forums doesn't mean you believe its the greatest piece of software created, you also don't have to automatically relate me to some other people (referring to comments on zp homepage about shareaza release) that I tried it for 10 minutes and turned off..wtf do you know about how long I tried it?
Just cause I dont agree with you doesn't mean I tried shareaza for 1 hour...I've used shareaza since 1.5 so I guess you can now truthfully shut up...:)
I'm automatically considered anti-shareaza because I oppose a fanboy, therefore I'm labeled as hating it and trying it for 2 minutes...the usual I guess
All I stated was that I DID get that many sources on shareaza and that download speeds were atroucious not because of the users but because I guess of the way shareaza handles sources..dont you understand that it's practically IMPOSSIBLE to have 200 sources for a file and be downloading at 1k? (unless you are using ed2k and I wasn't...this was G2 alone)
I like G2..I really do, but having this many sources for a files and downloading at that speed is kind of sad..and unlogical (i am not the only person that has experienced this..my friends and others I talk to online have had the same problems..)
I guess you need to test shareaza a bit more yourself...before jumping to conclusions
scenario
December 5th, 2003, 02:57 PM
I dont like shareaza:
- has no keywordsearch on partials (like emule has)
- is not hiding Ip adresses (Like Morpheus has)
- has no proxies (like Morpheus and emule have)
- has no Buddylist (like winmx and piolet has)
- has no community features (like waste has)
- has no decentral chatrooms
- has no security features like: every client is a proxy for every client
thongsai
December 5th, 2003, 03:04 PM
whao those 500 sources r on ed2k.. thats how ed2k works.. if u want to see how shareaza is suppose to work , just download the latest beta using a magnet..
oops edit: hehe u werent using ed2k.. but did u try to click the + on the filename? maybe most of those sources were in queue? how long did u wait for the file transfer to speed up? give us a screenshot of that
johoja
December 5th, 2003, 03:34 PM
Wow dude...
Just because you get the "priveladge" to release the new shareaza version on the shareaza forums doesn't mean you believe its the greatest piece of software created, you also don't have to automatically relate me to some other people (referring to comments on zp homepage about shareaza release) that I tried it for 10 minutes and turned off..wtf do you know about how long I tried it?
Just cause I dont agree with you doesn't mean I tried shareaza for 1 hour...I've used shareaza since 1.5 so I guess you can now truthfully shut up...:)
I'm automatically considered anti-shareaza because I oppose a fanboy, therefore I'm labeled as hating it and trying it for 2 minutes...the usual I guess
All I stated was that I DID get that many sources on shareaza and that download speeds were atroucious not because of the users but because I guess of the way shareaza handles sources..dont you understand that it's practically IMPOSSIBLE to have 200 sources for a file and be downloading at 1k? (unless you are using ed2k and I wasn't...this was G2 alone)
I like G2..I really do, but having this many sources for a files and downloading at that speed is kind of sad..and unlogical (i am not the only person that has experienced this..my friends and others I talk to online have had the same problems..)
I guess you need to test shareaza a bit more yourself...before jumping to conclusions
Well honestly getting the "privledge" to release it was a Pain in the Ass :). Other than that I honestly don't think its the greatest peice of software there are problems with Shareaza as with anything. I've tested Shareaza quite throughly unforutnaly im on 56k so i don't see much actoin pat the 5kb/s mark :). But if i have G2 sources for a file i always max my connection out which is more then your 1kb/s. Pherhaps you need to tweak your settings? If you do try it again try playing with the Maximum Transfers/Transfers per file.
If that doesn't help pherhaps you could give more information? Anything to help fix the problem.
Just curious, but..which file was it :) ?
thongsai
December 17th, 2003, 02:43 AM
no its a bug it happened to me once. i was only connected to g2 only and then my sources jumped to 300+. but it was on pending and didnt connect to any1.. so i filter>show all sources.. then i saw a bunch of yellow ed2k icons. those sources dont mean a thing if u dont connect to ed2k network to try to download from em
isus
December 17th, 2003, 09:05 AM
I dont like shareaza:
- has no keywordsearch on partials (like emule has)
- is not hiding Ip adresses (Like Morpheus has)
- has no proxies (like Morpheus and emule have)
- has no Buddylist (like winmx and piolet has)
- has no community features (like waste has)
- has no decentral chatrooms
- has no security features like: every client is a proxy for every client
you sound like an es5 user!
besides, to get all those features that shareaza does NOT have, you'd have to use what, 5 other clients? uh... and what about the features shareaza has that the others don't?
Evil_Dweller_01
December 17th, 2003, 01:19 PM
Well...the weird thing is the fact that even though shareaza has all these sources...most of them are not active
Let's say you have 20 sources for a file, only about 5 or 6 are active and you are downloading from them or you are queued up...but the rest are there for no apparent reason
I believe shareaza should just show the good active sources not the alt-sources I believe it also shows which dont seem to do any good
The problems I had happen to many people, not only me..so I guess I can't really blame myself for this :)
Thanks for the replies though...
IshareManyFilez
December 17th, 2003, 01:35 PM
Shareazza is good for one thing, and one thing only. Bittorrent. Now don't get me wrong. Ive tried them all. ANC, PTC, Burst, BT++, the original, Shadows, and more. But the one thing that all these were missing is the ability to find more sources, and to connect to every user. Instead of displaying 30 or 40 users like most BT programs, it displays them all. And for me thats all i could ever want. 4 Downloads right now, and my incoming is coming at 400kbs +.
shawners
December 17th, 2003, 01:36 PM
What works for one may not for another. I only get on shareaza for album wraps.. and connect to the donkey network.. Yes it may take forever and it needs a hack to keep searching for more file sources instead of having to do it yourself every time the file is pending.