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Shadow Lane
November 26th, 2003, 11:28 AM
I recently learned of the site http://www.sendthemback.org/ that suggests sending the music you download back to the RIAA. If it's illegal, send it back, right?

It got me to thinking. Most organized RIAA protest is reactive; eg. boycott RIAA, firewall RIAA IPs, Anti-RIAA petitions etc. I'm thinking maybe what's required are sites dealing with methods of proactive protest as suggested by satire-sites such as sendthemback.org.

Personally I'm not a website builder, but I know there's people out there who are. Here's what I'd like to do on this thread. Let's help out that imaginary site-builder. Possibly he wants to build a proactive protest, uncivil disobedience site, but the ideas aren't coming to him. I suggest we offer him some ideas.

Many times on filesharing forums I've seen suggestions for methods of proactive protest. I suggest collecting them here, and posting them, in anticipation of the coming saviour. I'm talking about methods of protest that could actually be done within the convines of the law, not hacking RIAA sites, or other such illegal stupidity.

Here's a few I've seen on other forums. I'll post them now to begin the list of ideas that could be offered on a proactive protest website.

1. Offer links to other proactive protest sites that may already exist, such as sendthemback, or the Big Hack (whether they're satire, or not, they're still on the right track).

2. As I understand it the DMCA can be used by anyone who wants to use it to gather personal information. Uncivildisobedience.org should offer instructions on how to do it. As I understand it all you need is a copyright complaint. If anyone quotes anything you say in public that should be enough, don't you think? Or what if someone hacked your website and took it over. That would do it. Uncivildisobedience.org would also make public all the personal info requests made by it's members under the DMCA.

3. Uncivildisobedience.org would offer a page that clearly states what politicians have come out for or against RIAA insanity. It would post links to that page at all major filesharing forums just before any major election.

4. Any and all RIAA or RIAA sympathetic email addresses would be posted on Uncivildisobedience.org, in a format that would allow easy copy and pasting into the Outlook address book. I'm not just thinking of email writing campaigns here. I'm thinking of all the new viruses out there that harvest addresses from the outlook address book, and send themselves out from it. It's a fine line here. I'm not suggesting anyone purposely send out a virus. What I'm saying is if bad luck should send you a virus it should go where it can do some good from there.

These are all the suggestions I can think of off the top of my head. Does anyone else have any? Remember if you decide to participate, please keep the suggestions legal. Feel free to pick my suggestions apart if you like. I'd like to keep the ideas viable.

Krell
November 26th, 2003, 11:35 AM
Theyre coming out of the woodwork again. It as just a full moon, and now, see what you get?

I cleaned up all this nonsense at a pretty high cost, and now its back to the same old crap. Not to mention that these little mini-anarchists are all the same person or two.

I have better idea . . . why dont you start a new stite called www.i lovetowhineandbitchabouttheriaa.org ?

Then go there, instead of here? yah, that'd be great.

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Sephiroth
November 26th, 2003, 11:35 AM
I think the idea is as lame and moronic as the lets all burn cds and leave them in public.

This uncivil diobidence is also just as lame and moronic and will only protray the P2P community badly and will only give the RIAA and other tradegroups fuel in their PR war on p2p..

If you really want to do something that matters and isnt stupid or crime then p2punited.org is the site to do it. How people can help is not to support the media companies that are suing their own customers especially this holiday season dont buy cds, write letters to their congressmen and finally the most important part actually learn about p2p, and educate people on what it really is about which is not the RIAA propoganda that its only here for warez and kiddie porn, that its thief(its not theif its copyright infringement) and etc.

That is the best way not some crazy scheme to try to exploit some nonexistant loophole or are just incredible stupid.

Malicious Intent
November 26th, 2003, 02:07 PM
Well said Sephiroth.
I have nothing to add except the letters "EFF".

Omyn
November 26th, 2003, 03:32 PM
Just the fact that he premeditated the entire thing is reason enough to shut down the site and sue him :].

EFF is a great site, and they do not go around giving people viruses, instead they try to help people instead of creating an even bigger problem.

The idea you are putting out is no better than some of those anarchists at the FTAA protests, you make the rest of the people look bad who are there for a legitimate purpose.