Ears and Eyes

[☼Sph!nX☼]

After seeing many hundreds of articles on digital piracy, here is what i have to say about it all:

The riaa is going after little fish in the sea, when the big fish that share thousands of files are being let free. The riaa is using money that even I could have used to get a better education and eventually a better job. Think about it: first they get the funding used for eduaction of children and young adults around the country, then they sue the shit out of the young adults and children, making it harder to get educations in the first place, then they discredit and alienate teens, children and young adults saying that they need to be educated and groomed to follow the law. here is what i have to say to the riaa about that:
MAYBE IF YOU DID NOT SPEND ALL THE MONEY USED FOR OUR EDUATION ON ROBBING US OF MORE MONEY WE COULD HAVE USED ON EDUCATION IN THE FIRST PLACE YOU WOULD NOT HAVE SUCH A PROBLEM.

whats even funnier is that now that the riaa is bringing light to this matter, MORE PEOPLE WILL BE DRAWN TO GET THEIR SHARE OF DIGITAL MEDIA FOR FREE!!!!! Laugh your a$$ off, i am just getting started!

The little 15 year old girl they sued for her 1100 files is just a drop in the bucket compared to the plans they have for us the file sharers. BUT, whats great is that after they get rid of the bigger fish, more and worse fish will already be in the sea and ready to feed off of the stupid, icompetance of the riaa, like for instance, they do not realize that the more detail they get into about how they busted people for digital piracy, and the like, THE MORE WE WILL LEARN ON HOW TO EVADE THEM BETTER!!!!!

Take for instance iTunes, i recently heard of some guy in europe that created a program that will convert the supposedly "uncopyable/uncorruptable" files into a more usable format!


It seems this wave will never end...

I will close with this little message to the riaa:
YOU MAY CATCH THOUSANDS OF US, BUT YOU WILL NOT CATCH US ALL!

[Krell]

Why didnt you just send this in an email to THEM? and leave the rest of us alone.



Dear RIAA,

Sph!nX doesnt like you.


sincerely,

Big Fish

[cheapprick]

Dear RIAA,

Sph!nX doesnt like you.


sincerely,

Big Fish

lol

Big Fish?

[Malicious Intent]

That's it ☼Sph!nX☼, get it off your chest.

[☼Sph!nX☼]

Perhaps i would not like to go to jail for harrassment krell....idiot. the riaa will take advantage of ANY opportunity to screw ppl up the a$$.

[RJ5500]

The RIAA isn't out to kill anyone or anything, all the they are concerned with is their own bottom line.

The RIAA just thinks their assault on P2P is legal. The courts will hopefully say otherwise.

Either way, the RIAA is a lobbying group representing a business and therefore they need customers to stay that way. What labels should do is fire the RIAA because

bad PR = unhappy customers = no customers.

[crackerjacker]

Perhaps i would not like to go to jail for harrassment krell....idiot. the riaa will take advantage of ANY opportunity to screw ppl up the a$$.
next time do a search for this topic on hating the riaa. there are many of them on this site.
and you should not call anyone an idiot, because krell seems to be more knowledgable on alot of topics then you.
had you been smart, you would of thought of searching for other posts relating to this huh?

so whose the bright one?
have a nice day
:)

[Rickio]

Yeah it is a weak post only cuz we heard it all before, but hardly any worse than what regs and everyone else posts here.

Face it, lot's of lame posts are on ZP.

Long time ZP members are bored with stuff like that, but everyone isn't a long time ZP member and if other people can post crap and get off on it, leave the newbies alone. Ignore what you don't like and keep your rudeness to yourself and I'll do my best as well.

[isus]

somebody just called krell an idiot!!!

uh oh...

< ducks behind wall as not to get hit by the stray bullets...

[my name]

Why didnt you just send this in an email to THEM? and leave the rest of us alone.



Dear RIAA,

Sph!nX doesnt like you.


sincerely,

Big Fish

krell just because you practically live here ( 4,055 posts ) and read every single post it doesn't mean we should stop posting stuff like that, it is you who should stop reading it.

if you cant bitch on the riaa/mpaa here, where can you?

[Wolfie]

There is a difference between a valid p2p politics topic and simple useless ranting.

Maybe we should have a section in the forum for ppl who just want blow off steam against the RIAA.

[Krell]

if you cant bitch on the riaa/mpaa here, where can you?



Ahhh Another bleeding heart that thinks that the masses should suffer the rights of the few. Isus doesnt need to watch for stray bullets, because what's the point in returning fire for comments that carries no weight to begin with?

This is such an obvious subject, that it boggles my mind as to how it could be questionable or relavent to post these authoritative-save-the-world- rants to begin with. However, for those of you that are off your meds, and your parents just dont understand you, heres a few sites you may want to hang out at.

Hope this answers your lame question.


http://www.riaa.org/

http://www.boycott-riaa.com/

http://www.magnetbox.com/riaa/

http://www.eff.org/IP/P2P/riaasubpoenas/

http://www.stopriaalawsuits.com/

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,96797,00.html

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/scitech/TechTV/techtv_RIAAvsteen030609.html

http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,59785,00.html

http://news.com.com/2100-1023-922729.html

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/32731.html



You see, any one of the gajillion people here that have made RIAA rants COULD have gone to the sites above to try to make a difference, but instead wind up here mouthing off the same unintelligible drivel without facts.

Finally, if you cant do anything better than to spam Zero Paid with your "down with the man" slogans, then go here:

http://www.geocities.com/riaasucks/

and click on the "Click here to post your opinions" link. At least this person made his own web page.


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[knowitall]

Rather than continue the debate over whether Sph!nX should or shouldn't be posting here, I would like to point out a couple of good points he was trying to make. First, it does seem like the more the RIAA tells about their methods of finding file sharers the easier it is to evade them. Second, in his words ,"It seems this wave will never end." I've believed that since i saw the huge number of options that were available when original Napster was shut down. Filesharing is not going away for a very long time. If the recording industry shuts down one service five more will emerge in it's place.

[Rickio]

Krell you have valid points, I cannot totally disagree with you. But you participate in as much nonsense as anyone else, but apparently cannot suffer some peoples nonsense. I find that terribly odd and wonder why you cannot see that.

Much of what seems to piss you off is not any worse than your sense of humor or commentary that you provide. I cannot stop you from being who you are but I can say that other people have a right to be themselves here and your wrong to be so rude to them.
If they break the rules that is another story.


I honestly also get frustrated at the nonsense but apparently we both get pissed off at different and odd angles from each other, as we have very different points of view.

But simply put, can you ignore the simpletons and carry on in some other way?

peace

[begoodbebad]

lol

Big Fish?


Big fish, small pond.

[DefCoN]

Ya krell take the t*mpon out and let people be what they want to be without your input on something that obviously bores you that you would deter people from coming back here again.. :tol :goodjob

[RJ5500]

Krell has every right to voice as much input as he wants around here.

There may not be much so-called "free speech" on this forum, but people do have the right to post their opinions freely. If you don't like the opinion, you can feel free to ignore it.

[Psilaxs]

Oh for fuck sake Rickio, Defcon and others,
leave Krell alone. Problem is he has the balls to say what people WANT to, but do not.

What he says IS true, we need to suppress these types of posts as much as possible.

Krell *may* participate in what you refer to as nonesense, but at least it isn't mindless drivel or spam.

[Afn]

The RIAA isn't out to kill anyone or anything, all the they are concerned with is their own bottom line.

The RIAA just thinks their assault on P2P is legal. The courts will hopefully say otherwise.

Either way, the RIAA is a lobbying group representing a business and therefore they need customers to stay that way. What labels should do is fire the RIAA because

bad PR = unhappy customers = no customers.

the RIAA Represents the music industry trust. THe fight over music is growing and increasing. 100 years ago the standard oil trusts were the focus of attention.

The music industry and entertainment industry is in deep trouble. While they claim p2p will end the industry, they are taking every action they can take to prevent, control and distroy new media markets:


Using the courts to prevent future use of peer to peer technologies such as webcasting.
Using the courts to randomly sue people who are sharing culture, something that was done for the past 2000 years without commericial control.
Creating laws that only benefit the corporations that own intelectual property assets.
Companies dependent on RIAA member advertising (c-net.com for example) buy 'offending business models' and then shut them down. (mp3.com)
Large Media Companies are dependent on RIAA member advertising, and are biased in reporting the news, because they have business models that would loose money if p2p was mainstream.
They shape the debate and use propaganda to ensure that p2p is marginalized, fractured and negatively 'suggesting' and assocating peer to peer with sexual crimes, and repeating this message 'with high repetition. (this implies that something is wrong with p2p - vague assocations are an effective way to control debate, because you can not respond without an explanation - by that time the damage has been done. Think of the 1992 Ross Parot - Al Gore debate. Gore won by lying.)



Happy Thanksgiving 2003

[crackerjacker]

. However, for those of you that are off your meds, and your parents just dont understand you, heres a few sites you may want to hang out at.

.
lmao you just made my day woohoo. thats to funny.
and at least you provided some sites that was sweet of you.
btw they need to make a section for riaa rants, for people to bitch.
how about it sephiroth?
since your maintaining the forums a section for riaa rants?
that way when the riaa friendlies visit this site they know exactly where to go*

reeses pieces and such.
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[shawners]

The thing RIAA has planned to do, is scare, bully you off illegally downloading. These new pay services is suppose to catch us in the fall of illegal downloading.
I seen krell help out alot of more people with problems on their PC then alot of people here. His 4000 plus post probably helped 2000 of them.. The other 2000 was to correct the masses of people who slander, or dont understand what he posted, and reply to the flaming.

[Afn]

The thing RIAA has planned to do, is scare, bully you off illegally downloading. These new pay services is suppose to catch us in the crime of illegal downloading.

The corporations that write the laws, not the people, say that information is to be OWNED, and you have to have OUR PERMISSION to use or view something. They also want you to think that not having OUR PERMISSION is a PUINISHABLE CRIME of EVIL DEEDS. ('think-crime' - 1984 Orwell)

I do not think so, and 60 million other citizens also agree with me.

The RIAA is a trust, and the trust is in trouble.

1. MP3 makes compact discs obsolete unless you are a truly obsessed fan or want the highest quality sound.
2. RADIO is obsolete. With mp3, who has time for commerical music and annoying ads.
3. RESALE of compact discs through channels like ebay, amazon, et. all. Distroy Backorders and reprint sales.
4. A CULTURAL SHIFT that places more importance on friends, video games and real relationships, not the commerical fodder that is produced for titalation and fantasy friendships based on paying for shiny overpriced, price-fixed metallic round discs.

[The Gauge]

Wow.

Nice to see that not everybody on this forum is quite as keen to hit their knees and suck Krell's chopper whenever he graces us with his input.

[Kevin06906]

Krell has every right to voice as much input as he wants around here.

There may not be much so-called "free speech" on this forum, but people do have the right to post their opinions freely. If you don't like the opinion, you can feel free to ignore it.

Exactly, so Krell can also ignore what my Italian friend Sphinx posted.

[DefCoN]

Oh for fuck sake Rickio, Defcon and others,
leave Krell alone. Problem is he has the balls to say what people WANT to, but do not.

What he says IS true, we need to suppress these types of posts as much as possible.

Krell *may* participate in what you refer to as nonesense, but at least it isn't mindless drivel or spam.


You know why he can because if someone like my self says what he says i would be banned or warned.Its always funny how someone with low post counts get called a noob or spammer or whatever..Its actually pretty old around here with the flaming because of someones opinion.. :ass :ass

[Wolfie]

btw they need to make a section for riaa rants, for people to bitch.
how about it sephiroth?
since your maintaining the forums a section for riaa rants?

I'll second that. You might notice that this thread resulted in only two posts that has any bearing on the subject of this section of this forum. The rest is the regular bickering on very, very, very old topic. If there is a section for ppl to go and rant all they want (not flaming members just the RIAA, MPAA and etc.) then no one else would confuse it as a serious discussion and avoid that forum altogether if not disposed to that type of posts.

Anway that's just a thought...

[Rickio]

As long as the rules are not broken everyone can say what they wish. Including disagreeing with posts and people.

That's life and the world, we do not all share the same attitudes so there will always be disagreements.

Internet life is not the same as normal life. People act tough and rude and that is not tolerable in real life from anyone on a regular basis. Oh well...
There is also what I call the popular attitude of being a rude, obnoxious person for the fun of it. This is definately a popular trend and lame as all hell. But again thats life today.
Also a very few people probably need a life and perhaps even some therapy as there attitude is so damn tiresome.
No one is gonna change but as I said, dissenting opinions should be welcomed as I find it sick as hell for everyone to agree with each other, especially when they agree with rudeness and sick crap.
It's normal to disagree, so don't expect that to ever dissappear, just deal with it and try to keep the disagreement at a low simmer as opposed to outright flames.

peace

[Criminal_Sniper]

krell youve got to be fucking kidding im sick of ur shit like many others
i though u were ok but it look to me someone needs to get some sunlight some sex and a fucking pair of tongs to get the whatever it is outta ur ass

fuck up they are right they have the right and where else?
the guy might not be perfectly right or even on the right point

the thing is none of u are and if u are you dont do a fucking thing

4000 posts fuck thats lame not cool lmao

every post from you to someone u believe to be smaller u put them down to the ground

shutup!
like zippit------

the noobs need to know how the fuck does it spread?

no offence dude be happy :)

if not for people like u in this world and concentrated on the net it would be a much easier place for us to communicat not when we have to deal with shit like this

PM me u bitch i can take it lol

[Criminal_Sniper]

and one idea a Music industry bitch forum!!!

[The Hunter]

Thats enough, thread closed for flaming.