The Passion

[PiRaNeTuS]

Anyone excited to see this? It's supposed to be a great film by Mel Gibson. I have a friend of Gibson that saw an early screener and said it was fantastic. I personally can't wait to see it. I actually haven't been excited for the release of a movie in quite some time. The only other movie I'm excited about at the moment is LOTR 3. Anyways, anyone else gonna see this if they get the chance? It looks good.

http://www.passion-movie.com/english/index.html



http://www.passion-movie.com/english/trailer.html

[aqlo]

Jesus Christ:
James Caviezel

Mary:
Maia Morgenstern

Mary Magdalene:
Monica Bellucci

Gesmas:
Francesco Cabras

Satan:
Rosalinda Celentano


Looks like it might be fun.

[Ne007]

Yeh...i want to see it.

It gets me sick to see how they want to censor it and keep it out of theaters...saying jews may be offended.

Kinda the same situation on Christmas...all you see is Santa Claus shows......it's un-american to play anything with Jesus in it on Christmas. Santa Claus is in on Christmas...jesus is out.

The Easter Bunny is in on Easter....Jesus is out.

Kinda makes me wonder if they will revoke some of these holidays.....THAT will be next.

America is going down the crapper.

[ston]

I think I will wait for the "Director's Cut" version of this film to come out. Mel Gibson described his own ordeal in the making this film as "being persecuted like Jesus" and was pressured to recut the film to make it more "politically correct" because no distributor was willing to release his film. (Ironically, the fictionalized and scandalous Last Temptation of Christ received major studio backing even though Christians found it deeply offensive)

I found Gibson's story of making this film to be incredible and unprecedented. No Studio would finance the movie and Gibson had to dig in to his own pockets for the $30 million to make the film. Even after the movie was complete, no distributor would touch it despite all the publicity from the ruckus raised by pressure groups who did not want the film shown without substantial revisions made, even though many prominent Christians who viewed screenings have said it accurately followed the Bible. (Ironically, the fictionalized and scandalous Last Temptation of Christ received major studio backing even though Christians found it deeply offensive) For making this film, Gibson has been labeled an AntiSemite by Abe Foxman, head of the powerful ADL.

Gibson explained his decision not to include in the film a quote from the Gospel of Matthew: "But, man, if I included that in there, they'd be coming after me at my house, they'd come kill me."

I have to wonder if, in fighting to make and release this film, will Mel Gibson be blacklisted from Hollywood for daring to stand up to the Hollywood establishment?

(full article) (http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/9/18/145645.shtml)

[DudeAsInCool]

Yep, definitely want to check it out. I'm always suspect of groups that want to censor stuff or complain about a movie's thematic content before they even see it.

The fact that Mel Gibson is putting up his own money speaks volumes-- we havent seen a big budget film financed this way since the fifties; though Star Wars, and most of the neophyte indies are self-financed.

The best films (or art) are always made out of passion.. kudos to Gibsonfor believing in himself and this project.

[DainBramaged]

America is going down the crapper. That's your opinion.

Keep in mind I do not have any opinion either way as to the legitimacy, morality, or ethics concerning the Santa vs. Jesus debacle, as it doesn't really matter to me either way.

[rainbowdemon]

That's your opinion.

Keep in mind I do not have any opinion either way as to the legitimacy, morality, or ethics concerning the Santa vs. Jesus debacle, as it doesn't really matter to me either way.
And that is exactly why America is going down the crapper. Nobody cares much about anything!!

[shawners]

hard to believe but dont the Jewish people believe that Jesus isnt the son of God?

[aqlo]

In general shawners No they don't. They have a problem with mythological stories like those of Hercules and Dionysus being told about a Being they believe is real and trancendent.

It would be like saying that your mom is an actual whore just because someone called her that, and someone else compared her to a soap opera mom with a funny story about her. You would still know better.

Whereas someone who didn't really love your mom might literally believe the scandalous stories and bring great shame on themself. They might think her kids should be sent off to camp too.

[origin]

yea, It looks tight mel's films are "usually"good. I would check it out maybe download it first then go see it in theatres ;).

l8

[DemonusAE]

Saw the trailer, have to say that I was impressed. A tear even ran down my cheek. Contraversial or not, I'm gonna go see this one.

[PiRaNeTuS]

It pisses me off how biased and hypocritcal hollywood and the liberal media are. The same people that pushed and pushed for 'Last Tempation' are now saying don't show Passion cause it may offend somebody! That is so much bull. It seems that hollywood has no problem making fun of christians blatanly and saying whatever they want about christianity....but when it comes to making a movie that is historical, and yes the Jewish High Council did declare to crucify Jesus...this isn't about blasting the Jews, it's about being historical in the first place. But of course they say, let's not show this movie cause it *may offend a very small minority. But we don't care if we make a movie that mocks christianity and offends lots of people.

Anyways, guys if you want to see this movie, I recommend doing a petition and everything else on passion's website suggests. Let's show hollywood that we really do want to see this movie. I'm gonna go see it 2 or 3 times. If a director feels this strongly about a movie to spend 30 mil of his own money, then that's something worth seeing. I hope that millions see this and it pays off for Gibson.

[ASUmusicMAN]

Developing headline from the Drudge Report:

FEDS PROBING HOW NY POST OBTAINED BOOTLEG COPY OF YET-TO-BE-RELEASED 'PASSION OF CHRIST', THE LOS ANGELES TIMES IS REPORTING FRIDAY/// Paper held private screening for rabbi, priest, professor and reader. Director Mel Gibson considering filing civil suit. DEVELOPING...

Interesting story...check www.drudgereport.com for updates.

[DudeAsInCool]

It pisses me off how biased and hypocritcal hollywood and the liberal media are. .

The distributors were chicken shit not to go with this movie. If Orion was still around, they would have released it.

[Pebbles100]

I might have to go see this one in the theatre. And yes, movies such as this one will always offend or piss off someone, but that's life. Deal with it. Everyone has different beliefs.

[DudeAsInCool]

I might have to go see this one in the theatre. And yes, movies such as this one will always offend or piss off someone, but that's life. Deal with it. Everyone has different beliefs.

Well said, Pebbles.

[HolyMoly]

I can't say this for a fact because I've not seen either film ... but it could be that "The Passion" is not as good as another film titled, "The Gospel of John." The only difference between the two films is that anything Mel Gibson wants to do will find distributorship. "The Gospel of John," however, is a much longer film that documents the life and teachings of Jesus through John's eyes. Unfortunately, it will never show up in too many theaters ... and will probably show up in even fewer video stores ... both because it was done by an indy studio without access to national distribution. Here's the film's website:

http://gospelofjohnthefilm.com

In both cases, though, I'd probably only watch them for historical interest. I'm not a Christian.

[ston]

it could be that "The Passion" is not as good as another film titled, "The Gospel of John." The only difference between the two films is that anything Mel Gibson wants to do will find distributorship. "The Gospel of John," however, is a much longer film that documents the life and teachings of Jesus through John's eyes. Unfortunately, it will never show up in too many theaters ... and will probably show up in even fewer video stores ... both because it was done by an indy studio without access to national distribution.
One big difference between The Passion and The Gospel of John is that The Gospel of John is a largely Jewish production. It's producer, Garth Drabinsky is Jewish, as were many of the production staff and studio, and it's script was reviewed by a group of Jewish experts to make sure that the film would be acceptable to the Jewish establishment.

Mel Gibson could have saved himself a lot of grief if he had only followed the same formula. By not having any Jewish oversight in the writing, production, or editing of his film, Gibson ensured that The Passion would incur the wrath of some Jewish pressure groups Hell-bent on sabotaging this film.

Matt Drudge mentioned above is also Jewish, however he said he enjoyed watching the film and he did not feel that it was antiSemitic at all.



In both cases, though, I'd probably only watch them for historical interest. I'm not a Christian
With the notable exception of Mel Gibson's The Passion, nearly all major films ever made about Jesus were made by non-Christians.

[HolyMoly]

One big difference between The Passion and The Gospel of John is that The Gospel of John is a largely Jewish production.
That's an excellent point ... and it's also important to remember that much of the criticism leveled at The Passion was leveled at it before anyone had seen it (based on script rumors). Still, it's hard to deny the truth. Pontius Pilate didn't arrest Jesus on a whim nor did he consider Jesus dangerous to Roman interests. He arrested him because the Jewish Sanhedrin complained about him ... and it was far easier to placate the Sanhedrin than argue with them. I remember a few years ago that Israel demanded an "apology" from the Pope for Catholic inaction during the holocaust ... and some inside rumors that the Pope had been counseled to preface such an apology by a demand that Israel "apologize" for the Sanhedrin's part in executing the Lord. Likewise, the Pope took the easy way out and placated Israel rather than argue historical fact.

With the notable exception of Mel Gibson's The Passion, nearly all major films ever made about Jesus were made by non-Christians.
Another good point. But, so much of Judaism and Christianity has been mishmashed by the movie industry that it's sometimes hard to tell where one religion ends and the other begins.

Really -- one of the films that always seems to come out on TV around Christmas time is "The Ten Commandments" -- which has absolutely nothing to do with Jesus Christ.

Incidentally, though I do like "The Ten Commandments," I do have a niggly complaint about it. Notice how there's a lot of "thees" and "thous" in the dialogue. I remember one "why hast thou forsaken me" or something close to that. But why??? Jews living in Moses day did not speak the English of King James' time ... and yet English from that era is strewn through the dialogue. I've always found it a bit laughable.

Imagine watching "Tora Tora Tora" (about the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor). The naval officer planning the attack shows the plans to Admiral Yamamoto who replies, "Yah, sure, you-betcha" in a Norwegian accent (snicker). That's how laughable King James English sounds in "The Ten Commandments."

[crackerjacker]

when is this movie suspose to come out?
maybe i will google it.
you know something though in all honesty i think that even though a movie can cause controversy or something i think people have a right to view it.

hmm
freedom of speech :)

[HolyMoly]

when is this movie suspose to come out?
April 4th, 2004 in my town.

you know something though in all honesty i think that even though a movie can cause controversy or something i think people have a right to view it.
Funny, but true - I was managing a theater when "Life Of Brian" (the Monty Python film) came out and 2 of my employees refused to work during the showing. Why? Because they felt it "made fun of Jesus." I tried to explain to them that the film was merely making fun of "biblical times" and not specificaly of Jesus ... but, they wouldn't budge.

[PiRaNeTuS]

One big difference between The Passion and The Gospel of John is that The Gospel of John is a largely Jewish production. It's producer, Garth Drabinsky is Jewish, as were many of the production staff and studio, and it's script was reviewed by a group of Jewish experts to make sure that the film would be acceptable to the Jewish establishment.

Mel Gibson could have saved himself a lot of grief if he had only followed the same formula. By not having any Jewish oversight in the writing, production, or editing of his film, Gibson ensured that The Passion would incur the wrath of some Jewish pressure groups Hell-bent on sabotaging this film.

Matt Drudge mentioned above is also Jewish, however he said he enjoyed watching the film and he did not feel that it was antiSemitic at all.

Sorry to bring up a thread a few months old, but had to address this: Gibson did have Jewish oversight in the movie. The actress that plays Mary, Maia Morgenstern, is Jewish. Her father is a survivor of the Holocaust. Throughout the filming, Gibson repeatedly asked her if anything was anti-semetic.

She says she's proud to be playing the Virgin Mary in the film and insists that the movie is not anti-semitic.

[moneoa]

And that is exactly why America is going down the crapper. Nobody cares much about anything!!
Rain..thats a really simplified take on such a big issue
America is going down the crapper because of alot more than general apathy about religion. Its because the value of family in north america took a back seat
in the 80s when both parents went out into the work force to make ends meat leaving us with two generations of kids that had little parental support and supervision (yes kids are a hell of alot ruder, annoying, mouthy, arrogant little
$#!t$ these days partly because of lack of discipline and for all those ppl who will get all nasty because they think I mean slapping the crap out of a kid, I dont.)....ugh...anyways I think this movie looks very well done and incredible.
I think this actually might propel Gibsons career as a serious director

[moneoa]

Sorry to bring up a thread a few months old, but had to address this: Gibson did have Jewish oversight in the movie. The actress that plays Mary, Maia Morgenstern, is Jewish. Her father is a survivor of the Holocaust. Throughout the filming, Gibson repeatedly asked her if anything was anti-semetic.

She says she's proud to be playing the Virgin Mary in the film and insists that the movie is not anti-semitic.
The dude who plays Jesus is also Jewish ppl...he used the proper actors for thier roles, trying to make it as real as possible.
Anti semetic is a crock as well. Jewish is a REALLY loose tag in the middle ages
in the bible when it says Jews were responsible (or implied anyways)
its a general term translated that describes Hebrews.
In this case it decribes the Hebrew Temple authorities
Jesus was Jewish...and did any of you know most Christians for the first few hundred years still considered themselves Jewish until the rifts between the factions grew too big? It was not even Hebrews who had him crucified
but Romans who were worried about his increasing influence on the masses
The hebrew church was pissed because he claimed to be thier messiah (king in ancient Aramaic) and undermined thier own influence so they leaned a bit on the romans. Rome did it to supposedly protect thier interests so does this mean Mel is an Italian Hater? Spreading hate about Italy? Get real, back in the day we called that a lynching

[g-smooth2k]

Saw the trailer, have to say that I was impressed. A tear even ran down my cheek. Contraversial or not, I'm gonna go see this one.

I saw the trailer too. and I am goin' to see the movie even if it is or not controversial.

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Originally Posted by Pebbles100
I might have to go see this one in the theatre. And yes, movies such as this one will always offend or piss off someone, but that's life. Deal with it. Everyone has different beliefs.
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Well said, Pebbles.

Same here, Well said Pebbles...

[DudeAsInCool]

It pisses me off how biased and hypocritcal hollywood and the liberal media are. The same people that pushed and pushed for 'Last Tempation' are now saying don't show Passion cause it may offend somebody! That is so much bull. .

They are different films and I havent heard of a backlash in Hollywood about Passion--more curiosity than anything else. Other than they need the news media to promote their films, Hollywood doesn't make its decisions based upon what the media thinks--they have too much money involved. The media industry on the other hand is always quick for controversy--they need fresh blood everyday--and liberal has nothing to do with it.

Like I said earlier, I plan on seeng the film. As to the controversy, I think there is probably some truth in what Holy Moly posted above: "Still, it's hard to deny the truth. Pontius Pilate didn't arrest Jesus on a whim nor did he consider Jesus dangerous to Roman interests. He arrested him because the Jewish Sanhedrin complained about him ..." But none of us were there, so who the hell knows?

[Ken17625]

America is going down the crapper because of alot more than general apathy about religion. Its because the value of family in north america took a back seat
in the 80s when both parents went out into the work force to make ends meat leaving us with two generations of kids that had little parental support and supervision (yes kids are a hell of alot ruder, annoying, mouthy, arrogant little
$#!t$ these days partly because of lack of discipline and for all those ppl who will get all nasty because they think I mean slapping the crap out of a kid, I dont.)....ugh...anyways I think this movie looks very well done and incredible.
I think this actually might propel Gibsons career as a serious director

That's a very close-minded and regressive view, but a view none-the-less.

Sounds like the 50s!

Remember kids, duck and cover.............as you're being vaporized.

You cannot erase progression (unless you have a mind wiping device).

It's futile, in my opinion.

By the way, both of those parents are human beings. They deserve equal opportunities to seek employment.

Both of my parents work, and I can say without a shadow of a doubt, that I, and my siblings are not as you portray "America's youth".

[Psilaxs]

Not all of us; but I can see your point. The distributors were chicken shit not to go with this movie. If Orion was still around, they would have released it.


Wow, I'm surprised someone mentioned Orion (But considering your backround in entertainment (Correct?) you would be the one) I reallyenjoyed some of the fringe movies they were willing to release. What was the reason for orion no longer distributing movies?


About the movie: I cannot wait to see it, I hope it will be a success and a rather large slap in the face of hollywood.

[Psilaxs]

That's a very close-minded and regressive view, but a view none-the-less.

Sounds like the 50s!

Remember kids, duck and cover.............as you're being vaporized.

You cannot erase progression (unless you have a mind wiping device).

It's futile, in my opinion.

By the way, both of those parents are human beings. They deserve equal opportunities to seek employment.

Both of my parents work, and I can say without a shadow of a doubt, that I, and my siblings are not as you portray "America's youth".


Very well put, kids have always been the same.

[DudeAsInCool]

Wow, I'm surprised someone mentioned Orion (But considering your backround in entertainment (Correct?) you would be the one) I reallyenjoyed some of the fringe movies they were willing to release. What was the reason for orion no longer distributing movies?

We were under capitalized. As Hollywood begin expanding its openings and marketing dollars and other entertainment divisions, Orion couldn't keep up. We made tough deals but backed the creative vision of the filmmaker. Unfortutunately, the other companies spent millions swallowing up our core talent (Cameron, Stone, Verhoeven, Alan Parker, etc). In addition, we never had a big warchest for development--we may have had 60 projects in development versus the 500 or more at other studios. It's a shame really--if you like at the leadership's record going back to their UA days, they won more academy awards than anybody, started the James Bond franchise, and gave the filmmakers creative freedom. So, to make a long story short, in addition to the factors above, we had an off year or so, and combined with our loans and interest, even Silence of the Lambs and Dances With Wolves couldn't stem the red tide--we even had to sell of the Addams Family. Today, Miramax comes closest to the type of films we made--but they didnt have the depth we did, neither in broad mainstream pictures, or foreign films--plus we didnt manhandle the talent, we looked up to them.

[DainBramaged]

I merely meant to convey that I am not opinionated on the matter. That, to me, is very different from not caring at all. It look forward to viewing it and exploring any and all sides of the issues that are doubtless bound to occur.

[PiRaNeTuS]

Just got back from seeing the movie TWICE. The most powerful, gripping, piece of film I have ever seen. At the end, people were either crying or completely silent. As the credits rolled, people didn't leave. They just sat in awestruck.


If you get the chance, see this movie. Christian or not, this movie is a work of art. You can't deny the power that this film displays.

I give it two thumbs way up.

[shawners]

I loved it, i thought it was great!! In todays time, if anyone came to claim to be the messiah, he would be crusified as well.. But when we know the truth aand it speaks to us, we know it is him that has returned. =) I hope the move industry gets so sick seeing how well this movie is made and popular it is.. knowing they condemed it, or didnt want to front the money for this project.

[Krell]

Newsweek did an EXCELLENT article on this, and after reading the online version, I have the hard copy, its still on my desk at work.

One thing tho, as I flipped the pages, I noticed that it was filmed in Italy, so therefore the thought formed, what Itallians may be in at? I turned the page once more, and there, RIGHT there before my eyes, was Monica freakin Bellucci ! I was astonished for a second at the casting of her as Mary Magdeline, then it occured to me, she was after all a former prostitute. (dont ask me to connect the dots there)

Also, I think that James Caviezel is a fine actor, and I would like to see him in more movies. I think he's the perfect pic for this.


I will probably end up seeing this movie alone, as EVEN I CAN'T see asking a young woman . . . "Wanna go see a crucifixion?"


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[DudeAsInCool]

I will probably end up seeing this movie alone, as EVEN I CAN'T see asking a young woman . . . "Wanna go see a crucifixion?"

Particularly if you expect to 'nail' her instead :tol

[endersgame21]

It pisses me off how biased and hypocritcal hollywood and the liberal media are. The same people that pushed and pushed for 'Last Tempation' are now saying don't show Passion cause it may offend somebody! That is so much bull. It seems that hollywood has no problem making fun of christians blatanly and saying whatever they want about christianity....but when it comes to making a movie that is historical, and yes the Jewish High Council did declare to crucify Jesus...this isn't about blasting the Jews, it's about being historical in the first place. But of course they say, let's not show this movie cause it *may offend a very small minority. But we don't care if we make a movie that mocks christianity and offends lots of people.

Anyways, guys if you want to see this movie, I recommend doing a petition and everything else on passion's website suggests. Let's show hollywood that we really do want to see this movie. I'm gonna go see it 2 or 3 times. If a director feels this strongly about a movie to spend 30 mil of his own money, then that's something worth seeing. I hope that millions see this and it pays off for Gibson.
Well... I would argue that the movies isn't "historical" but more "fictional." That isn't the point though...I certainly do agree that the movie isn't about blasting the Jews and you would have to be pretty ignorant to percieve it that way.

I also hope that it pays off for Gibson although I don't think he is to worried about getting the money back. From what I have heard this movie was more of a personal thing for him and if people like his movie and praise it I think he will be deeply satisfied. I am also strongly against censorship and think it is ridiculous that they would try to ban a movie like this from the theaters. Its not like this movie is blatantly putting down Jews or discrediting them, it just has some ideas that sorta conflict with theirs. I especially think that is a ridiculous reason to censor a movie because for one, I think that both religions (and all religions) don't have any real credit to begin with and are completley 'fictional,' and two, this would be in a way forcing the Jewish Religion on us. Not so much forcing it on us but not letting us see a different point of view which, if I am correct, is why America was started in the first place. We should be able to see all sides of the story and make up are own minds, this kinda goes along with schools starting to teach 'creationism' and ban 'darwinism'.

[Class316]

Yeh...i want to see it.

It gets me sick to see how they want to censor it and keep it out of theaters...saying jews may be offended.

Kinda the same situation on Christmas...all you see is Santa Claus shows......it's un-american to play anything with Jesus in it on Christmas. Santa Claus is in on Christmas...jesus is out.

The Easter Bunny is in on Easter....Jesus is out.

Kinda makes me wonder if they will revoke some of these holidays.....THAT will be next.

America is going down the crapper.

It pisses me off how biased and hypocritcal hollywood and the liberal media are. The same people that pushed and pushed for 'Last Tempation' are now saying don't show Passion cause it may offend somebody! That is so much bull. It seems that hollywood has no problem making fun of christians blatanly and saying whatever they want about christianity....but when it comes to making a movie that is historical, and yes the Jewish High Council did declare to crucify Jesus...this isn't about blasting the Jews, it's about being historical in the first place. But of course they say, let's not show this movie cause it *may offend a very small minority. But we don't care if we make a movie that mocks christianity and offends lots of people.

Anyways, guys if you want to see this movie, I recommend doing a petition and everything else on passion's website suggests. Let's show hollywood that we really do want to see this movie. I'm gonna go see it 2 or 3 times. If a director feels this strongly about a movie to spend 30 mil of his own money, then that's something worth seeing. I hope that millions see this and it pays off for Gibson.

Two very well said statements!!

I can't wait to buy the Passion on DVD!! As they say, the truth hurts :angel

Anything that makes the ADL cry MUST be good!

[Class316]

Also, to correct everyone, only Mary is played by a Jewess. The rest aren't Jewish.

from http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Movies/02/25/film.jim.caviezel.ap/index.html

California (AP) -- Playing Jesus meant a world of torment for Jim Caviezel, who stars in Mel Gibson's ferociously violent "The Passion of the Christ."

A devout Roman Catholic, Caviezel, 35, would not have had it any other way.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Movies/02/25/film.jim.caviezel.ap/index.html

[crackerjacker]

I finally got around to seeing the movie. First of all I would just like to say that if I was Mel Gibson I would have never edited anything out. I dont see why this film is offensive to any body.

The truth of the matter is I consider this movie to be extraordinary. I like the fact that Mel believed in his right to free expression.


I did see this movie and It did affect me very much emotionally and it brought tears to my eyes. I just wanna say that I suggest people see this movie if they want to.

You dont have to be religious to see this movie or even believe in god just see it. I kept and open mind to it. I mean I have read the bible and I grew up catholic but I dont have any classification for religion now.
I am not atheist I just believe what I believe in and its not a big deal what my religion is. I do believe in god though and I am proud to say that I do. I do believe that some of these events happen and I will leave it at that.

The issue is free expression and I am glad Mel Gibson had the guts to express himself freely.

Basically what I am saying is that I dont blame no one for what happen and I dont think anyone should start blaming anyone for what happen in this movie.

I dont like the idea that this movie has stirred up so much controversy because all Mel Gibson was doing was expressing him self. That alone you have to give Mel Gibson credit for.

I stand by him and even though others might not like the way this movie was portrayed they have to respect Mel Gibsons right to free expression.

It was very sad. I consider this a documentary just like the dvd that I saw Christianity. The movie is very intense and I feel that its very strong and might not be suitable for kids because it would really confuse them.

Although if a parent wants to take their kid to see the movie they should tell their kids in advance about the violence that is depicted in this movie.

What happened in this movie is upsetting and you know what I think that people should not judge or blame any particular religion or hold anyone responsible for what happen. And the reason why that you cant blame any religion or anyone because even know this could of happened it probably happened long ago.

I am not saying that these events happen or didnt happen. I am not trying to disrespect anyones religion I just feel that no ones religious beliefs or religion should be used as a scapegoat.


Whoever did this regardless from what religion they were from are responsible not the whole religion. People cant blame someone or classify a whole religion for what some people do. That is not logical. What is logical is the people who did this are the ones responsible. Thats all there is to it.


In other words people are resonsible for what they do.
Like I said this is a very sad documentary/movie and it really affected me. I have read the bible as well and I am familiar with the events that were depicted in this movie. Some parts might have not been added and I just got to say that the ending was not what I expected.

I mean I knew more or less what would of happen but maybe when they release this on dvd they would have like an interview with Mel Gibson expressing himself on his reason for making it. I mean you can go to his site to read it, but I think something was missing in the end.

Well I dont know maybe it was the way it ended. I mean its suspose to end the way Mel wanted to portray it but hmm who knows.

None the less I will see this again and will buy the dvd too. I just think people have the right to express themselves and that no one should blame others for what some people do.

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On a side note there is this dvd that I saw called Christianity.
There is this dvd that I saw called Christianity before I watched the passion of the christ.If you wanna check out some more information about it go to this link http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/sim-explorer/explore-items/-/B0000524FH/0/101/1/dvd%5Fdisplay%5Fon%5Fwebsite/session/104-8462983-0584757.

Once again everyone is liable for their own actions.
peace
* i might add more to this but I dont have anymore to say right now except peace*

[PiRaNeTuS]

I completely agree with you cj.

[Arch Stanton]

i saw it too

it was a well made movie

i don't understand the negative PR

i don't see the gore and i don't see the anti-semitism

i think those that have issue with this movie had problems with it's long before it was ever actually filmed. they seem to have problems with the fact it does not agree with their agenda. the media prints any crap these days with shock value and they were more then happy to make this a "highly controversial" film. personally, i didn't see any controversy.

give me a f*cking break

[Lord_of_the_Dense]

Just be careful what ticket you get...lol

666 Appears on Some 'Passion' Tickets (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&e=6&u=/ap/passion_tickets)

[REDO]

yeah, I saw it on Sunday. It was a very powerful movie. I usually dont turn away from gory movies, but when they nailed Jesus' hands and feet into the cross, I just couldn't bear the gut wrenching feeling rumbling in the bowels of my stomach.

Most of the audience sat awestruck after the crucifixion scene. I liked it;however, I probably wont watch it again.

[Atheist Icon]

To me this movie is kinda like going to watch "Titanic"....why? You already know what happens..."Titanic", the ship hits an Iceberg and sinks. In the "Passion" Jesus dies...then 3 days later the resurrection happens...I wouldnt mind going to see the movie, it is actually interesting...but then again, Im going to see if I can find it on Shareaza or something...

stephen

[isus]

a friend of mine wrote about this...

http://rants.northblue.net/

[classical]

I saw this movie over the weekend and I thought it sucked. I guess if you grew up in a society influenced by Christianity, it might have some meaning for you. But for me, it felt like one long snuff movie.

[Lord_of_the_Dense]

a friend of mine wrote about this...

http://rants.northblue.net/

lol...can't wait for his version to hit the silver screen.

[DudeAsInCool]

lol...can't wait for his version to hit the silver screen.

Me3 :bling

[Potato]

I thought this was a powerful movie, but I feel that if you are seeking something that is at a level of entertainment like LOTR, then you will be disappointed. It really seems as though Gibson made this as something he was doing, not something he was doing to make money. It already grossed more than what he paid for it right?

I guess I just have problems with all these people overanalyzing it and no offense to Isus, things like what his friend said about it piss me off.

[Malicious Intent]

I watched the film a couple of nights ago. It wasn't bad, but other than saying to keep up with what everyone is talking about, I wouldn't recommend it.
I had an arguement with a jew today about the film. She said that she wasn't going to see it when it is released, as it is anti-semitic (sp?). I just don't get that. I don't see any Jews complaining about films and programs depicting how the Nazis treated the jews. You don't hear complaints about world war films being anti-german. In most films it shows millions of germans being killed by a couple of allied soldiers to achieve the impossible and save someone being tortured.
It seems to me that the Jews always seem to think they are being picked on. I'm sure it is just the minority with big mouths.

[Lord_of_the_Dense]

I'm going to place a bet that this will be closed before page 6, maybe 5.

[Arch Stanton]

with the exeception of any pharasitic jews who happened to grow up arond galilee about 2000 years ago, there really isn't any wrong placed on jews in the movie. even the pharisees were shown as a group divided amungst themselves (scene where the dissenting priest asks why entire group of priests have not been brought to the iterrogation of jesus) the pharisees are not shown as evil or murderers. they were zealots who honestly believed jesus was mental (with all due respect to jesus) and believed that his removal from society was necessary to keep peace and maintain control over the others. it was more about toleration towards others as whole and extremism then one group being singled out.

how bout that crazy Herod huh? i want to party with that guy.

[Lord_of_the_Dense]

Ok, time for a resurrection...

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Coming back soon to a theater near you -- a controversial film about a Jewish guy from Nazareth who is worshiped as the Messiah and crucified by the Romans.

No, it's not Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ." It's Monty Python's "Life of Brian."

Inspired by the runaway success -- and public furor -- over Gibson's portrayal of the last 12 hours in the life of Jesus, the creators behind the 1979 biblical satire about an anti-Roman activist who spends his life being mistaken for a prophet are planning a 25th anniversary re-release next month.

"Life of Brian" will open at the end of April in Los Angeles and New York before expanding to other cities across the country, Rainbow Film Company president Henry Jaglom, whose distribution arm is reissuing the film, said on Tuesday.

Read entire story here (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=638&ncid=579&e=7&u=/nm/20040324/en_nm/leisure_brian_dc).

This will be cool to see in the theater.

[PiRaNeTuS]

I can't believe that. That's awesome. That movie is hilarious. I love monty python.