Winmx leechers!!

[Jangleyjim]

These leechers are really starting to irritate me!!
At the moment I`ve got 7 people queueing to download from me.
6 of them have either a DSL or T1 connection and not one of them is sharing a SINGLE file!
The 7th guy is on 56k and is sharing 368 files.
Quite ironic,isn`t it?

[eclectica]

Let me tell you about my day yesterday, now that you've told me about yours. I was showing my wife WinMX, because the last time she used a program to get mp3s was when Napster was running. She had tons of songs she wanted to get, and a lot of them are rare.

I have two computers at home. One is running an OpenNap server and WinMX, while the other is for things like e-mail. I use the one with the e-mail to get the files at times, because it also has a sound card whereas the one with the server and WinMX running doesn't.

So I was using the computer, but sharing no files, because I already have my total bandwidth set just right on the other computer with the server. I went to get some files and I received an IM from someone telling that I must share files. So I replied telling him my situation, that I couldn't share files because I was sharing on another computer. A few minutes later all the connections to that person were cut off.

Isn't it ironic that the righteous asshole who was so concerned about others being leeches refused to share any files with me?

[mlv12321]

That is pretty ironic, though I find it perfectly understandable; when confronted with what seems to be a factually unverifiable proposition, in an environment apparantly thoroughly pervaded by so-called leeches, I would equally more readily reject it than accept it as truth. Thereby indeed taking the slight risk that I'm wrong. Am I wrong in thinking so?

[eclectica]

You're not wrong in thinking so, provided that you're willing to accept some collateral damage.

And as far as verifying the truth goes, I know that I do share files, and I also know that some self-righteous people have refused to so with me.

[backmann]

Even if the other guy is not sharing a single file you should never -and I repeat, NEVER- disconnect him. Remember that most of the people who use a p2p program for the first time are not sharing because they just don't have any files in their PC.

But, as electica said, I know I'm sharing, and hope that others follow my example.

Ivan
"In the dark we make a brighter light"

[mlv12321]

uhm...Backmann ...perhaps we have had slightly different experiences. I've had users who shared nothing queue for an entire opera; 543 MB, 320 kbps quality ...that's just ridiculous.

I really don't care if they download a few small songs from me, just to get the hang of it. But trying to download 4 CD's from me, without bothering to acquire knowledge about even the most basic fundamentals of file-sharing, is a bit naive to say the least.

[isus]

doeds anybody remeber how limewire used to have a freeloader setting in the options? yea... well, winmx should have this for anyboyd who wants to download something. leechers SUCK

[ston]

To many anti-leech activists, it's a ridiculous notion that you can't share even one single file on WinMX because you claim you can't spare giving up even the smallest amount of upload bandwidth.

WinMX allows you to throttle upload bandwidth to as low as 1k. Especially for a broadband user, giving up 1k for upload is hardly asking for much.

But now if giving up 1k upload is still too much, then try sharing just a few tiny files. ( keygens and cracks, and especially serials are always in high demand, but only a few kb in size.) They will get uploaded in a flash so the amount of uploaded BW is negligible. This way you will be signalling to other users that you are not a total leech, yet not actually using much of your upload bandwidth.

WinMX users don't demand much, just show that you are contributing at least something to the community.

[Whoa]

I still have a problem with this one guy who wants this 97mb file from me and he never shared one file. I tried messaging the guy but couldnt because of his privacy settings. sure he might have just started but cmon, at least share some mp3s (so i know hes actually sharing). the time he was on for 27hours 0 files shared.

[Lamourlady]

yes, leechers suck.
but i have noticed lately that when i "whois" any of the wpnp users, NONE of them show any files.
any other server user, shows files.
maybe there is a problem here.
i also wanted to inquire about this message i keep getting for "kaenguru" server. it's about friggin' 10 pages long stating that i need to use a server list like napmx and if i am, that i should invite the user, uploading from me, to use it, since they aren't.
and the penalty for this is to only allow the user to have 10 files showing.
i messaged this dude about it and told him to speak to the server about it, cause noone can see any of his files. the dude had about 2500 files in his "whois", but only 10 when i browsed him.
me thinks Eclectica should add this one to his list of "deletes".

[Ken17625]

See thats the problem with WinMX, it sucks. Plain and simple.

[Travis982]

I just whois-ed all 4 people who were downloading from me. They all came up 0 files shared. But here's the funny thing: I was currently downloading from one of them so he had to be sharing something eh.

No doubt about it WinMX is screwed up in this feature.

[Travis982]

Just for kicks I whois-ed all 10 people now in my queue. And now 7 come up as sharing files. Wierd. All 10 are different from when I whois-ed before.

[eclectica]

Lamourlady:

i also wanted to inquire about this message i keep getting for "kaenguru" server. it's about friggin' 10 pages long stating that i need to use a server list like napmx and if i am, that i should invite the user, uploading from me, to use it, since they aren't.
and the penalty for this is to only allow the user to have 10 files showing.
i messaged this dude about it and told him to speak to the server about it, cause noone can see any of his files. the dude had about 2500 files in his "whois", but only 10 when i browsed him.
NapMX is a program that adds the Napigator servers to your WinMX program, rather than you manually typing them in from the Napigator site. So is the server owner admitting his own inadequacy, by telling you to go find another server? Perhaps they restrict the users to share only ten files to cut down on their server resources, because as I understand it, the files are stored in the server's memory. And when you do a search or browse a user, that takes up server bandwidth too. It's all about prestige: server owners like to have many people connected to their servers, and they cut corners and overload the server in order to do so.

[-Huize-]

there clearly is sum sort of a bug in the winmx software, per examle sumone showed 30 files i trid to d/l a song and was qued 10031 ( wich seems to be a standard ).

THis happns alot if u ask me and well its a damnd shame

[mlv12321]

It is also possible that a user shares or unshares folders whilst running WinMX without closing and restarting WinMX afterwards. I believe this can affect the browse function (it messed up my number of shared files anyway :-)

[Caitlyn Marble]

When I was on 2.6 kaenguru wouldn't let me on saying "you are banned. spotlight users can go elsewhere." now whats spotlight ? and what does it do that is so bad that warrants a banning?

:bk

[mlv12321]

I think spotlight is an mp3 searching client. Maybe winmx identified itself as a spotlight client when trying to log on? As for the banning, perhaps kaenguru doesn't want that program using his server because you can't see whether a user is sharing, or what he's sharing? I'm just guessing.

[-Huize-]

The reason a client gets banned of a network is quite often the client's lack of protocol.

Per example winmx sends so many unneeded crap command lines to a server that winmx is the main reason why most server have to reboot so many times and why winmx messes itself up.

Also this que stuff, is a breach of simple protocol.

In short winmx is actually a wrong client to use on open or slavanap servers. But the main rason why it is allwoded is becaus eof so many people using it.

[eclectica]

Huize:

In short winmx is actually a wrong client to use on open or slavanap servers.
I disagree, and I think it is SlavaNap which is the program which is at fault. There aren't any problems of compatibility between OpenNap and WinMX.


Caitlyn Marble:

When I was on 2.6 kaenguru wouldn't let me on saying "you are banned. spotlight users can go elsewhere." now whats spotlight ? and what does it do that is so bad that warrants a banning?
Most of the commonly traded wsx lists have in addition to redundancies where the server is listed first without port 8888 and then with it, a lot of T and V entries. The V entries report what client you are using to the server, so for example, you could log into the Ballad network servers by putting in a V value of WinMX 2.6 even if you're really using version 3.22.

Personally I don't use any of the T or V entries, which is why I don't import anyone else's wsx list, due to all the junk that would tend to be on it.

You should open your wsx list from your hard drive, just to see how much trash is in there.

He who has the most junk in his wsx list will get his list traded the most, because people think there are the most servers on such a list.

[Caitlyn Marble]

I think I get it now. I opened up my list and didn't see any V entries, but a ton of T's. Dang, talk about redundant... I can see how much "space" they take up, and so therefore could fool someone into thinking they were getting alot of servers. I got my list from NapMX by the way.

[crackerjacker]

um, share your files, if there a newbie, they need to get some files first. but i am sure, it took people some time to learn how to share files, to encode a cd, and learn to share on p2p. on the other hand here is a little something i believe. some times people are leeches for the hell of it.
i remember this,as i once was a newbie in p2p sharing.
sometime leeches trying to get big files off of me, *700* megabytes or soemthing, gets the boot, because, i share only those with those who share. come on look it this way, in order for the individual to know about p2p programs, he must have gotten some information *OR she* from a site. but how in the hell they cant share a file. hmmm.
they can share something. a gif file, a webpage, a poem.
if they have the knowledge to download a big 700 movie file, then they should be able to know something about p2p programs. i mean come on lets get real. there are always going to be leeches, but its a good idea, everynow and again to check to see if someone is leeching.
share with those who share.
rtw:fire :fire

[Use_The_Forks_Luke]

I disagree, and I think it is SlavaNap which is the program which is at fault. There aren't any problems of compatibility between OpenNap and WinMX.

Not really eclectica, the 3.xx versions of WinMX are as bad for Opennap as they are for Slavanap, I posted the reasons on this forum so I'm not gonna repeat it... just read about it here (http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1869&perpage=15&pagenumber=2/).
Slavanap is compatible with all the other filesharing clients who are worth calling themselves that.
Now let me dream... wouldn't it be great if the developers of Slavanap and opennap would work together with the developers of WinMX (which is considered the biggest client) to make their software compatible ? I know CyberAlien (Slavanap programmer) tried to contact the WinMX crew already, no reply. But wouldn't that be great ? Wouldn't that be like... napster ? Both servers and client made for eachother...

[-Huize-]

SImple fact is that opennap also has problems with Winmx 3.xx and i am sure that newer version will only cause more problems.

also u dont need to change anyhting u can simply click on edite when connecting to a server in winmx and change the client signature there.

Only trouble is Winmx-ers on 3.xx version still will get kicked because of the random password function, the multiple connections and the crap commands it sends.

Winmx developers need to realize that it are the slava/opennap servers where there when napster went down. They need to either STOP developing their client for further use on slava/opennap OR make it work along with the protocol wich it doesent do now and only cause anger and frustration.

Now for winmx's own network.....its becoming more like kazaa all the time, the primary users get fucked up cause of the secondary surs using their bandwih and cpu.

The seconday users are at the mercey of the primary users to stay in que or get set back to say 1000?!

and i personally find it more the uther disregard to call some-one' connection secondary or primary.

[Wulfrunner]

I just browsed all 45 of the people in my queue, and almost all of them have files available. Trance anyone? =p