Matrix Revolutions

[wonderboy2005]

Im sure that by now, many of you have seen Revolutions. So what did you think of it? personally, i thought it was great with some exeptions:

1) the oracle. i didnt like the fact that she was different in the first place, but they did very little to explain the change.

2) the ending. i would have liked to see it more detailed. not just a 2 minute segment with little actual meaning.

3) finally, reloaded. from what i have been told, reloaded and revolutions were made at the same time, and with a single budget. if thats true, then why is revolutions so much better? the CG in reloaded blew chunks compared to that in revolutions.

anyways, what did you guys think of the movie?

P.S. try not to include any spoilers for those who have yet to see the movie.

[ASUmusicMAN]

1) the oracle. i didnt like the fact that she was different in the first place, but they did very little to explain the change.


I heard that the actress that played the original oracle died, so they had to find a replacement after they wrote the script. So there was some "uh...well...just say she had a change or some crap"

[neoufo51]

Im sure that by now, many of you have seen Revolutions. So what did you think of it? personally, i thought it was great with some exeptions:

1) the oracle. i didnt like the fact that she was different in the first place, but they did very little to explain the change.

2) the ending. i would have liked to see it more detailed. not just a 2 minute segment with little actual meaning.


1) The original woman, Gloria Foster, died during production. It's not a story change or their fault. Knowing this now, you shouldnt care bout the change.

2) This coming from a guy who has "Deux Ex Machina" on his sub-name. LOL
Like many religions and philosophical discussions, the Wachowski brothers dont give all the answers, the point is to let every person have their own thoughts about it later. Don't expect to have everything in life to be given to you on a silver platter for you to understand perfectly without having to give it a good degree of thought.
The ENDING was pretty damn clear though. A slight copout in not showing what happens later, but decent.

[wonderboy2005]

1) The original woman, Gloria Foster, died during production. It's not a story change or their fault. Knowing this now, you shouldnt care bout the change.

2) This coming from a guy who has "Deux Ex Machina" on his sub-name. LOL
Like many religions and philosophical discussions, the Wachowski brothers dont give all the answers, the point is to let every person have their own thoughts about it later. Don't expect to have everything in life to be given to you on a silver platter for you to understand perfectly without having to give it a good degree of thought.
The ENDING was pretty damn clear though. A slight copout in not showing what happens later, but decent.

1) okay, i didnt know that she died.

2) your prooving my point. i too thought that the ending was clear, i just would have liked to have seen more of the wachowski's conceptualization of 'peace'

[Kyle06]

I liked it I watched it last night

they kindof set it up for another one

[DainBramaged]

The actress died of Diabetes complications during filming.

Is the ending really so clear? I'd like to hear what you have to say.

They had to give people some reason to see Revolutions, some extra incentive. Better FX? Why, of course!

[shawners]

Maybe spoiler on the last sentence, if you havent seen it. Its still vague, so read if you have seen it.

I dont think nothing can compare to the first one.
The acting, the fight sequence. The bullet time, this one takes more place in zion and the real world. Which is a fight in itself.
You have to think of Neo as Jesus christ(if you can). He was here to save the world, In the first movie a guy knocks on the door asking if he has the disk, and neo says,"You got the money". And after he hands him the disk, the guy says,"Jesus christ, my own personal savior."

I like the trilogy, shame that one of the main characters at the end has to go.

[origin]

I thought the movie was awesome. I went to theaters and saw it first then I downloaded it lol. The third and final part to the trilogy definitely was better than revoloutions but not better than the original. There could have been a little bit more explanation for the way neo dies and all of the smith's explode with that white light stuff, wierdly enough after all of the smith's are gone there is a shot of the oracle lying in the puddle in place of neo. Quite akward isnt it?!?!?!?! if anyone could explain that would be great. Anyways I loved the movie and deserved the whole 6.50 I payed for it, support movies that deserve it in theatres I know I do :playboy.

l8

[my name]

the Wachowski brothers dont give all the answers, the point is to let every person have their own thoughts about it later. Don't expect to have everything in life to be given to you on a silver platter for you to understand perfectly without having to give it a good degree of thought.
The ENDING was pretty damn clear though. A slight copout in not showing what happens later, but decent.

im sorry there was nothing clear about the ending. and thinking for ourselves? you mean guessing for ourselves. because there isnt any information available to make a judgment to what exactly happened. its like in reloaded people making theories about the architect neo dialog. you cant "know" beacuse it wasnt written. you can guess. i dont remember in star wars such huge wholes in the story that you had to debte what actually happened.
**************BIG SPOILER ********** im gona write in transparent:




COME ON neo blowing stuff in the real world... you can kinda of explain that, i mean its a movie, you can say " he is just connected to the source and can feel and control the machines" but the problem is not the logic the problem is that its just STUPID. even in LOTR people wont except powers from nowere, so just making neo like some magician is realy stupid to me.
what made this movie a hit that you can imagine it all happening, machine beeing strong, fooling people with vr software, someone being able to tweak it(neo). and than, they bring this superman in the real world. come on. have mercy on us over 15.
for the ending, no one knows what killed smith beacuse they havent told us. you can guess.
the biggest problem i have is in advertisement point of view, the ads said all the answers will be there, and there wasnt. disappointing.
i think im gona throw my reloaded and just pretend 2 and 3 were never made.
ill stick with the first.

[Potato]

I like the trilogy, shame that one of the main characters at the end has to go.

That scene pissed me off. Not because the character died, but the way that person died. I wasn't sad that that person died. Not one bit.

Potato also didn't like the movie, but she doesn't feel that she needs to defend her dislike.

[WRFan]

absolutely stupid, this I-will-explain-you-why-the-oracle-looks-different-now thingy. why didn't they simply pretend that nothing has changed? there are many movies where the same person is played by different actors in the sequels. To the audience the protagonist looks different, but not to the people in the film. so Trinity shouldn't look suprised, but should simply say, "hi, oracle, how do you do", as if it were the same person, i.e. looking the same as before. it would be perfectly ok.

Take e.g. that Ryan guy in movies based on Clancy's novels-he is played by different people, once it's Harrison Ford, the other time it's Alex Baldwin, and the script writers didn't invent stupid stories in order to explain why there's a different actor.

and besides it seems as if it were a punishment to be a black person. Like the oracle said, "I made a choice and that choice resulted in me looking the way I do now", as if it were a punishment, first she was white, then made some stupid choice, and BOOM! she's black, oh, I am so unhappy.... that's racist crap.

And I think it's totally stupid that the source's power extends to the real world, that's simply stupid, matrix is unreal, so one can extend one's power beyond one's real limits, but stopping sentinels in the real world using mental powers, this hasn't got anything to do with science fiction any more, science fiction can be explained only by science, but this stupid esotetic thingy with the superhuman powers in the real world is so stupid and doesn't fit into the matrix concept.

And besides, I didn't get what happened in the end. So Smith infected Neo, and then they all died. Why? and why didn't the little girl and the oracle die? If all people infected by Smith died, including Neo, then the little girl and the oracle should have died too, Serath too, 'cause they all have been infected by Smith too.

And I didn't like that fact that Monica Bellucci had hardly any scenes in MR, stupid.

And in the end the stupid oracle says that maybe Neo will return. Stupid Hollywood, always trying to let some things open so that they can make another sequel and earn some more money. How can he return? he's dead! maybe Trinity will return either? Yeah, bend the physical laws of the real world yet a little more! They are dead, but they will return. Ok, if Neo is the saviour, then there's always a chance of second coming. but wait, he already had his second coming in Matrix 1 when his heart stopped in the end. so anybody heard about a third coming?

What I liked about the movie is that it ends just the way it begins, in the end Neo and Smith fight, just as they did in Matrix 1, and even the movements are often the same, reminiscent of the first part. Ah, whatever. I must say that Matrix 2 and 3 have no value of their own. It's as if they have been made solely for the purpose of explaining some things that were left open in the first part. Totally boring to watch them. Once is ok to understand everything, but I couldn't watch Matrix revolutions for a second time, I nearly fell asleep, so I clicked the stop button on my remote control, it's simply too boring.

[tackdaddy]

i thought the movie was ok until the end which ruined the whole series.when i went to see this i wanted to see an end but they left the ending open without a definite ending and i felt kinda cheated.i was very dissapointed in this movie.

[N[E]rD]

Basically, the movies are spectacular action movies. That being said, WTF with the ending? Ok so right as Neo is making the deal with the sea urchine looking thing the sentinals just quit. Why? How would Neo have ever have known, they had made a truce? Beyond that lets say the sea urchine holds off the attack for a minute. The machines completely out number the humans. They had the humans back to the wall the humans were prepared for there "last stand." What is stopping the machines from backing out of there deal.

And don't give me that crap about they need the matrix. They writers of the plot line said in Reloaded that (by way of the overly verbose Architect) the machines have back up plans and were prepaired to live without the humans in the matrix.

I think that what happened here is the Warchovski bros (however you spell it), tried to take on the meaning of human existance, and epic battle of good and evil, and came up way short. I believe its beyond our comprehension to sum up the meaning of humanity, in a trilogy. However, kudos on the effort, because it was in the least entertaining.

Someone suggested that the ending should have seen the end of either the humans or the machines. I my self would have been disappointed with either ending, because the humans destroying the machines would have been too fairytale. And the machines destroying humanity would have been a hardsale for WB. I think that the best ending would have been the story the architect mentioned where the humans are stuck in a perpetuating game where they are always expecting the uprising, and the machines eraticate zion only to create it a new.

[dmbfan1103]

I've been hearing most people complain about the 3rd film, and i myself was somewhat dissappointed to see it end in the way it did.

However, if you look at this movie for what it really is, it is the best philosophical ending any movie could have. I also have noticed that most people have commented on how Reloaded and Revolutions do no justice for the the Original Matrix. I have a better suggestion, and just hear me out?

Before seeing Revolutions i myself felt that the Original Matrix was much better than Reloaded and that the trilogy was falling apart. But now that i have seen all three films i find myself asking, "what the hell"? My opinion now is that the Original Matrix SUCKED, that's right SUCKED, i'm sorry many people will disagree with me, but after seeing Reloaded and Revolutions i wonder what were they doing to the first film.

The first film did NOT have enough philosophical integrity, it was only action, action and more action. I believe that this trilogy has been hurt not by the lack of a good ending in Matrix Revolutions, but the lack of a good beginning in The Matrix.

i feel that most people like the first film for the wrong reason.

feel free to offer your own opinions, and if anyone else agrees with my opinion please speek up.

[N[E]rD]

the reason we liked the first one was because it didn't try and get to philosophical. It was enought that it was deep, without being zealous.

In my opinion the deeper something gets the more holes in the story line open up because it is easy to forget what you already told us.

[warez-wolph]

Agent Smith had become a virus ( after Neo disconnected him in the first movie) and infected all the people and programms in the matrix. When Neo jacked in to fight Smith, he(Neo) was connected to the source hence once Smith infected Neo, the source was connected to Smith again and could delete him and all his copies thus leaving all the people and programs laying around everywhere. The rest of the movie is just eye candy

[wonderboy2005]

so much for limited spoilers. oh well, most of you have seen it by now im sure.

im glad to see that im not the only one who had some issues with it. really, what i'd like to see is a whole new story line from the watchowskis. i dont think there is really that much more that can be done with the matrix. 3 films, and 9 short stories is more than 99% of ideas get. the brothers have proven that they can tell a good story, so why return to that which is getting redundant? the matrix is concluded IMO. what else needs explaining? yes, the trilogy left much to one's immagination as to how things turn out, but a fourth movie would be too much; too tedious to continue with.

Bring on a new idea.

[shawners]

The actress died of Diabetes complications during filming.

Is the ending really so clear? I'd like to hear what you have to say.

They had to give people some reason to see Revolutions, some extra incentive. Better FX? Why, of course!

Kind of Ironic, in the movies she liked candy and cookies..
The first matrix was very philosophical. The second one was jammed with action and long fight sequences. As well as long dialog and talking. The third one just had so much of zion, and less of the matrix.
I think because NEO and Trinity didnt fight together in the matrix, is why i felt it was not as good.
The first one wasnt computer generated fights, it was just so cool, and the bullettime they had. The second and third one had lesss of it. NOTHING compares to when NEO and trinity go in that federal building to get out morpheous. Awesome fight =)
heres a link that you would find intresting.
http://awesomehouse.com/matrix/enemy.html

[shawners]

PLAY THE VIDEO Game.. You see an hour of footage of the movie that sets up things great.. See how the sentinels invaded niobi ship, and her meeting with the oracle. as well as ghost meeting the oracle.. And its very awesome =)
They should make another Matrix.. Start it from Morpheous, whos searching for his crew and for trinity(kinda like animatrix did) =) It be cool

[my name]

i hope the send a press release saying :
"we are sorry we made matrix 2 and 3, please forget you ever saw them, we will try again, thank you".

[Potato]

i hope the send a press release saying :
"we are sorry we made matrix 2 and 3, please forget you ever saw them, we will try again, thank you".

Maybe "we won't try again" would work better.

[cinder829]

Sorry if someone already said this (I didn't have time to finish reading the thread), but if you'd like to see a prequel as to how the war started, watch the animatrix (specifically The Second Renaissance parts one and two). It's really good stuff.

[Malicious Intent]

Since the spoilers are out:

I thought Agent smith dieing was one of the more obvious things.
Smith was the equal and opposite of Neo - the matrix trying to balance the equation. Once Smith killed Neo, the other side of the equation could be removed - so Smith died.
So Neo worked for the machines to kill Smith - why did that end the war? The machines still need power. Perhaps they could build solar panels above the clouds and waste less power on sparks between buildings?
Humans destroying the machines would surely be the end.
Perhaps somone could be sent back in time to stop the machines from ever arising. Although the machines may send someone else back to stop that...
I agree with stopping after the first film.

[shawners]

Since the spoilers are out:

I thought Agent smith dieing was one of the more obvious things.
Smith was the equal and opposite of Neo - the matrix trying to balance the equation. Once Smith killed Neo, the other side of the equation could be removed - so Smith died.
So Neo worked for the machines to kill Smith - why did that end the war? The machines still need power. Perhaps they could build solar panels above the clouds and waste less power on sparks between buildings?
Humans destroying the machines would surely be the end.
Perhaps somone could be sent back in time to stop the machines from ever arising. Although the machines may send someone else back to stop that...
I agree with stopping after the first film.



THAT was already done.. TERMINATOR!!! HELLO =)

[Malicious Intent]

Well done Shawners - you are obviously on the ball!

[my name]

speaking of the terminator, even arny figuered out he can lie as a machine. so the matrix buldiers have to hold thier word? come on. if i was the machine id start kiling the humans the second smith died. a nano second after and it was human salad for me... muhahhaha hahhahahah hahahahhaha pathetic flesh sacks.

[WRFan]

Nowhere does it say or show that Neo died. Smith is the only one that is dead. All the people he infected didn't die. Only he did. Because he did indeed infect everyone. That is why the oracle said either Smith or Neo would determine everyone's future. Smith infected everything plugged into the matrix. At the end, Smith was destroyed and everything was put back to normal. That is why when the Architect and the oracle talk at the end, she asks what will be done with the humans plugged into the matrix. He says they're free to go. That means they were ok too, not killed. When an agent or Smith took over someone's body, they didn't kill them.
And about the oracle? What the hell? The oracle was black in all three movies! She was never white. What are you talking about?


The humans released by the architect are those not infected by Smith, Smith hasn't managed to infect everybody yet. Neo is dead, he died right when Smith infected him, basically Neo just stopped to exist, only yet another copy of Smith existed. And then when the architect or whoever it was, the source or whatever, killed Smith and all of his doppelgaengers, obviously ALL smiths died, and the infected people too, or rather, as I already said before, all the infected people died when Smith infected them, cause all of them turned into Smith. I.e., their brains (infected humans) and memory (infected machines) were brainwashed and replaced by Smith's memory, and then the architect killed all the Smiths, nobody survived. Apart from the little girl, Serath and the stupid oracle, and I still don't get why they turned back from Smith -> to themselves, cause nobody else returned, they all exploded or were deleted, or whatever. So basically the little girl and the oracle should have died too.

And about the oracle's colour of skin: I think she was mexican or something in the first movie, not really black. or am I mistaken? guess I should watch the first part again, it's been a looong time since I saw it for the last time

[shawners]

i mean you no harm malicious intent =) I come in peace, it just sounded like the terminator.

They later said that peace cant last.. and neo may show up in another time. So i figure they will start another war, trying to live on earth surface, or attacking machines hanging around them.

I would like the "The Matrix for dummies book to come out"

[Malicious Intent]

I would like the "The Matrix for dummies" book to come out

lol - totally agree!

[baghdad_steve15]

Maddox speaks for me:
http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=matrix3

[moneoa]

[QUOTE=WRFan]And besides, I didn't get what happened in the end. So Smith infected Neo, and then they all died. Why? and why didn't the little girl and the oracle die? If all people infected by Smith died, including Neo, then the little girl and the oracle should have died too, Serath too, 'cause they all have been infected by Smith too.

You guys should realize that with what neo is as soon as Smith absorbed him
his conciousness combined with smiths...he found out thats what happens when the oracle speaks to him from smith at the end (everything has a beggining and an end). Once he was absorbed he became a part of ALL the smiths (psyche and physically) and was able to exert control over all of them and destroy them. (remeber that Neo's control of the matrix is uniquely his he already proved that he could still exert his will over smiths and thats why he wasnt absorbed in reloaded and why when he let himself in revolutions his will still dominated smiths even against the numbers of copies smith had made.

Think of it as when he destroyed smith in the first one he gave him administrators rights unintentionally, this let smith copy and do crazy shit.
Neo though is the head admin of the network and his priveleges (Correct spell?)
supercede most others (letting neo do crazy shit) The only reason why Smith beat him physically is because his physical power grew with the replications.
Neo died and the others did not because aside from getting the crap kicked out of him, the energy needed to destroy all the smiths was too much for his weakened state (neo burned out folks) and keep in mind they never said his was actually dead. they just showed his human body being carted off by machines.

Sorry for spoilers....you feel its alot feel free to edit them out but leave the post because I think that the explenation fits for the most part.

[my name]

moneoa and WRFan you both crack me up.
you talk about what you think as if it is the RIGHT answer well....
this is a movie, a script, not a reality, which means what isnt on the script didnt happen. so you cant KNOW all the stuff you said, you just think it. not even the writer can tell you what realy happend. you fill the void with your imagination (which is the reason it isnt writen in the first place). so stop going around, "explaining" the movie as if there is somthing to get and you got it.
just add, "I THINK" in the end of every of your elaborate "explanations"

[moneoa]

moneoa and WRFan you both crack me up.
you talk about what you think as if it is the RIGHT answer well....
this is a movie, a script, not a reality, which means what isnt on the script didnt happen. so you cant KNOW all the stuff you said, you just think it. not even the writer can tell you what realy happend. you fill the void with your imagination (which is the reason it isnt writen in the first place). so stop going around, "explaining" the movie as if there is somthing to get and you got it.
just add, "I THINK" in the end of every of your elaborate "explanations"

I dont claim to know anything aside from what they explained in the movies and hinted at as well, Is anyone really that retarded? If you have half a brain the
movie is not as vague as everyone bitches it is. Just because it was a weak story dosent mean it was confusing. The only real mystery is what the hell happened to neo. As for going around explaining shite like I have the exclusive truth, thats a crock. My opinions are exclusivly mine with the option for anyone to agree or disagree as they wish while at the same time feeling free to discuss what thier thoughts may be. I didnt beat the crap out of you to enforce my thoughts. Anyways it is of no concequence my name, guy I have never met.
Thanks for YOUR imput seeing as you seem to know me so well in the mean time I hope you have fun giving your own commentary about crap YOU dont know about. As for reality, the reality is, it IS just a movie, there is no right or wrong answer I just disagree there is no answer. Whats bogus is you go around bitching about how ppl think they have the answer and then you go off on some self pompus spree about what the real deal is, that buddy is called hypocrasy.
So I retain my right to disagree with your life view and encourage your right to disagree with mine...oh...and toss off or something :D

[ThePillarOfAutumn]

they are both dead - bu maybe just maybe - they can return to save more lives - just like DBZ - Super Sayan 1 - 2 - 3 - ya know the story - LOL

anyways the ending sucked azz - everything else was coo - i just expected more from the ending - dam them for making me watch it twice already - basterds.

[DainBramaged]

moneoa and WRFan you both crack me up.
you talk about what you think as if it is the RIGHT answer well....
this is a movie, a script, not a reality, which means what isnt on the script didnt happen. so you cant KNOW all the stuff you said, you just think it. not even the writer can tell you what realy happend. you fill the void with your imagination (which is the reason it isnt writen in the first place). so stop going around, "explaining" the movie as if there is somthing to get and you got it.
just add, "I THINK" in the end of every of your elaborate "explanations"
How much more totally false can this statement get. Just because something isn't in the script doesn't mean that it didn't happen.

You don't see ships or people travel in several instances, yet they appear at their intended destinations. Did they not travel? This is but a simple example, but it proves the point. In some cases, you can conclude with certainty that you KNOW something happened outside the performed script.

As well, writers have reasons for writing what they do. We, as consumers, can speculate as to WHY the writers chose to write the script the way they did. This is called speculation or analyzation. Since I don't expect the Wachowski brothers to write a treatise on The Matrix anytime soon, this is the best we can do. What's wrong with discussion?

[my name]

How much more totally false can this statement get. Just because something isn't in the script doesn't mean that it didn't happen.

You don't see ships or people travel in several instances, yet they appear at their intended destinations. Did they not travel? This is but a simple example, but it proves the point. In some cases, you can conclude with certainty that you KNOW something happened outside the performed script.

As well, writers have reasons for writing what they do. We, as consumers, can speculate as to WHY the writers chose to write the script the way they did. This is called speculation or analyzation. Since I don't expect the Wachowski brothers to write a treatise on The Matrix anytime soon, this is the best we can do. What's wrong with discussion?

so you agree with me. there are only speculations so when little kids(look above), come and say, no no no you guys got it wrong the answer is..... its funny. like they cracked the code.
this is a movie not writen by a great novelist which means alot of the stuff there can mean nothing. the writer didnt mean anything(like the oracle changing form). and you go on and on trying to look for meaning in something obviously flawed as this storyline.

[DainBramaged]

so you agree with me No, I do not. I did say that some things we are able to determine with certainty. Others, not. That doesn't mean that what someone proposes isn't the correct and "true" meaning, however.

[Psilaxs]

"QUOTE"

Originally posted by WRFan

"and besides it seems as if it were a punishment to be a black person. Like the oracle said, "I made a choice and that choice resulted in me looking the way I do now", as if it were a punishment, first she was white, then made some stupid choice, and BOOM! she's black, oh, I am so unhappy.... that's racist crap."

You noodle head, the woman who played the first two oracles was B-L-A-C-K.
Not every person that is "African-American" is as black as the ace of spades.

[shawners]

The movies together make sence.
I watched the original matrix a couple days ago. this is what i found out.
1. The crack head with the girl that had the white rabbit tatoo, which came knocking on neos door. called Neo His personal savior and jesus.
2. The oricle never did say Neo was the one or wasnt the one. She said, "You have the gift, but it seems like your waiting for something to happen." Later she said, I dont know, another life i suppose. So she said he would die to become to believe he was the One.
3. Neo had to tell the others he wasnt the one, so they could go get morpheous out, so he could find the one in case they was wrong.
4. You cant destroy a program unless you get into the program, him jumping in Smith destroyed him.
5 Matrix Reloaded came out, Programs that are outdate or break down, have to return to the source. Some dont, and hide out here.
6 Smith was compelled to stay in the matrix to destroy him, he was also set free and unplugged. So the source had no way of stopping him.
7 Neo didnt understand why he was fighting him, he knew that he must be stoped, and his powers was the gift of seeing into the future as well.
8.The oracle changed cause she lost a bet, or took a chance. My guess she had to get a new shell, the Frenchman and agents was after her. She thought maybe they would been stoped by then.
9So NEO Did trick smith into copying into him, which ultimately plugged smith into the source, and return everything to normal. Why it only showed the girl, and the Oracle protector as well as the oracle in the rain is still unclear. Or their be alot of bodies on the ground outside.. And panicing. Maybe he put them to all a sleep at home, and erased their memory of being there.

[my name]

8.The oracle changed cause she lost a bet, or took a chance. My guess she had to get a new shell, the Frenchman and agents was after her. She thought maybe they would been stoped by then.

Or maybe the original actress died and they needed some excuse to her looking different and acting bad.

[my name]

No, I do not. I did say that some things we are able to determine with certainty. Others, not. That doesn't mean that what someone proposes isn't the correct and "true" meaning, however.

so you do agree with me after all.
you can never prove that someone doesnt have the right meaning just as you can never prove he does have the true meaning. so.... you agree with me that you can never know the meaning. especially when its so vague.

and thus you shouldnt say: "this is the meaning bla bla bla you didnt get it bla bla bla " but say "to me it seems that the meaning is bla bla bla, but any other meanings are ok too bla"
.

[shawners]

even if she died, and was meant to play in it, they had to change the script to fit the new actress. If you could, im sure you change your image knowing you had agents and a frenchdudes henchman after ya =)