Sun's java or Microsoft's Java

[eXTREME2002]

I'd like 2 know from u Zeropaid users which one is best to get 4 Internet Explorer 6.0 SP1 on a Windows 2000 SP4 machine, regarding speed, reliability and security:

1. Microsoft's JVM
OR
2. Sun's JVM

[Malicious Intent]

I've got neither, so links with your chose would be great!
Or just tell me not to be a lazy ****.

[isus]

i would go with sun's. didn't ms get told by a court they had to stop putting their java machine in with xp bc it sucked so badly?

[fernandez]

I can't really comment about security and reliability as I've never used the version from Microsoft.
There is, however, an ongoing dispute between Sun Microsystems and Microsoft about the nature of Java deployment on Windows OS's.

Maybe the following will help you make a decision.
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/java/

[eXTREME2002]

LOL - That was the page i reached b4 thinking 2 post in this forum and honestly, i got a headache after reading some of it :D so i posted here to know the answer quickly quickly

[fernandez]

Based on the information on that page, I'd choose the version from Sun Microsystems since it seems unsure how Microsoft will implement Java technology.

[Malicious Intent]

Based on the information on that page, I'd choose the version from Sun Microsystems since it seems unsure how Microsoft will implement Java technology.
Me too. Thanks.

[baghdad_steve15]

Sun. They created Java which must mean they know more about it.

We all know what Microsoft does to good things.

[Aaron73153]

Microsoft will stop supporting its version of Java by the end of the year by court order.

[wonderboy2005]

Sun. They created Java which must mean they know more about it.

We all know what Microsoft does to good things.
while i do agree with you that Sun makes the better version, i disagree with you saying that just because they created it, they know more about it. that may be true, but i guarantee you thats not the case in every situation. for example... do you think linus torvalds (i think thats his name) knows more about linux than say red hat or mandrake? i doubt it.

[roberto811]

do you think linus torvalds (i think thats his name) knows more about linux than say red hat or mandrake? i doubt it.


Heres another question does bill gates know more about computers than everyone on the planet i doubt it.

[baghdad_steve15]

do you think linus torvalds (i think thats his name) knows more about linux than say red hat or mandrake? i doubt it.

Well Linus is still involved in the development of the linux kernal (the heart and soul of Linux) Red hat and Mandrake only build their version around the kernal and add extra features, GUI, etc.

While Bill Gates just runs the circus know as Microsoft, he no longer develops crap.

[phalkon30]

Actually, I've had problems with SunJava. Mainly in java chat rooms, many chat rooms (I know yahoo for one) don't work well with sunjava, and end up looking really fucked up, taking longer to load, and not working correctly. I've never had a problem with the MS version though.

[nasrules]

Microsoft have had to stop implementing numerous things. Java is one, embedded ActiveX/Windows Media/Flash is another one (they stole someone else's technology).

For obvious reasons, go with Sun.

[ferrarimodena360]

microsoft virtual machine.......supports yahoo chat which sunjavas versions do not... (i faced this in XP)

after installing MsVM you can install sunjavs version and disable the same for ie and use it for an alternate broswer like opera, sun java can be made to run with ie later in control pannel options

Microsoft VM = Better Integration Into IE - uses less resources

[ferrarimodena360]

i more thing i wanted to add was that sun java knowing more about java is another thing and integrating it with ie is another

who would no more about integrating java into ie ?

[nasrules]

Well, seeing as Sun invented Java, they should (and do) know more about it.

As to the IE integration, that's now unsupported and there won't be any new versions. Microsoft have got themselves into a hole over this.

[ferrarimodena360]

Well, seeing as Sun invented Java, they should (and do) know more about it.

As to the IE integration, that's now unsupported and there won't be any new versions. Microsoft have got themselves into a hole over this.


i just feel VM uses less resources with ie rather than java version, though i do have sun version working with opera.

has the rulling been passed on microsoft vs java?

[eXTREME2002]

Can i have a link to the latest JVM from Microsoft that can be installed on Win2K SP4. I downloaded a file but i have got a message which didn't understood too much (it said something like that upgrading JVM can be done thru Operating system upgrades or service packs only)

[crackerjacker]

I use both suns java and microsoft virtual machine.

heres the catch you can still get the virtual machine if your using internet explorer. You just have to get the setup.exe file and u will be able to obtain it.

i have no problems using internet explorer with java. I find that microsofts virtual machine is better then suns version of java.

I have had problems with suns java with regard to surfing and running java games and applets. I am really into java gaming and use java alot and i find it to be slow.

I do use micrsoft virtual machine because it seems faster and it does not hesitate while i am running java applets.

thats the weird problem i had with using these 2 versions. seemly enough microsofts version is faster with regard to internet explorer while javas sun is slow.

however when i use opera or netscapes version of the suns java version i do not have any problems. i guess its how its called up within internet explorer or not.

hmm both are good but microsoft is the best for me.
but try them both on various occassions and decide for yourself. all good :)

[RACKnRAIL]

Microsoft have had to stop implementing numerous things. Java is one, embedded ActiveX/Windows Media/Flash is another one (they stole someone else's technology).

I have heard they have a habit of doing this.
M$ = Money...power...corruption. It's no wonder people take such pride in cracking their software.

I also use, Sun Micro Java. I have not had any problems.

[origin]

I just like MS JM it runs pretty sweet with my xp pro..we all make desicions on subjects based on our own personal experiences and I have. But I wont downturn Sun's JM because I have never gave it a try before.

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